Obscenity Conviction / Domain Forfeiture - GoFuckYourself.com

neewwman · 08-26-2003, 05:15 PM

Check it out:

http://www.girlspooping.com/

I Am The Walrus · 08-26-2003, 05:15 PM

[yawn]

Ray@TastyDollars · 08-26-2003, 05:16 PM

thats shitty

KC · 08-26-2003, 05:19 PM

They should have kept their shitty movies out of the US mail.

KingK7 · 08-26-2003, 05:20 PM

Is that for real?

DeanCapture · 08-26-2003, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KC
They should have kept their shitty movies out of the US mail.

Would they still have gotten into trouble using UPS or FedX?

d*

Nanda · 08-26-2003, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KingK7
Is that for real?

is it??

KC · 08-26-2003, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeanCapture

Would they still have gotten into trouble using UPS or FedX?

d*

They wouldn't have been charged with mailing obscenity through the US Postal Service if they had.

DeanCapture · 08-26-2003, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KC

They wouldn't have been charged with mailing obscenity through the US Postal Service if they had.

Oh I see - one less charge - that makes sense.

Thanks,

d*

KC · 08-26-2003, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeanCapture

Oh I see - one less charge - that makes sense.

Thanks,

d*

It's a serious charge.. Mailing obscenity is a Federal Crime.

brutus · 08-26-2003, 05:29 PM

"guilty to one count of conspiracy to mail obscene material and conspiracy to use the Internet for the purpose of sale and distribution of obscene material. Each count carries a maximum potential penalty of five years imprisonment and a $250,000 fine."

Just fuck. I don't know what kind of vids they sold, but fuck anyway. That's the best part: "...conspiracy to use the Internet for the purpose of sale and distribution of obscene material..." Whuahahah... Fuck. Sounds too bad.

KC · 08-26-2003, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nanda

is it??

Yes it's real.. here's the documents:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/poopvid1.html

polish_aristocrat · 08-26-2003, 05:41 PM

http://www.extremeassociates.com/

still working

robfantasy · 08-26-2003, 05:55 PM

fucking fed's. they just wanted to beat off to shit pics.

dont they got anything better to do then order shit videos and describe them in detail.

neewwman · 08-26-2003, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by I Am The Walrus
[yawn]

Keep yawning, buddy.

They're going after the extreme stuff first, but any adult webmaster could be a target.

I was once at a seminar on Internet pornography where Bruce Taylor bragged about how he used to get obscenity convictions for plain vanilla hardcore -- no fisting, no shitting, no nothing.

SuperVillain · 08-26-2003, 05:58 PM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
http://www.extremeassociates.com/

still working

I'm sure it much easier to shut down some perv selling shit videos out of his living room that it is to shut down a multi million dollar operation.

SuperVillain · 08-26-2003, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by neewwman
Check it out:

http://www.girlspooping.com/

Is selling shit videos out of you kitchen in your book?

directfiesta · 08-26-2003, 06:50 PM

Really shitty for them:

Quote:

the Corbetts have forfeited $15,010 seized from their bank accounts, the domain name associated with their website, and all obscene materials and equipment used to produce or manufacture obscene materials. In addition, the Corbetts have agreed to pay the United States $60,000 in lieu of forfeiting their home which was used in the sale of obscene materials.

don't work out of your house seems to be a good idea....

OneHungLo · 08-26-2003, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KC

They wouldn't have been charged with mailing obscenity through the US Postal Service if they had.

Doesnt matter if you use FedEx, UPS or USPS or put the videos on the back of donkey and deliver them your still selling obscene videos across state lines which makes it a FEDERAL offence.

its just matter of time before they start going after the mainstream stuff...start hiding that cash under a ya bed cause they are gonna grab everything you own if they come for you

Giorgio_Xo · 08-26-2003, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KC

It's a serious charge.. Mailing obscenity is a Federal Crime.

I find this strange... the Supreme just ruled that the act of gay sodomly albeit obscene under Texas law was protected by the right to privacy.

So what the government is telling me that it is okay for a dude to fuck another dude in the ass but not to have images of a woman shitting sent through the mail.

Doesn't anyone find this stupid?

12clicks · 08-26-2003, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
Really shitty for them:

don't work out of your house seems to be a good idea....

or in other words, don't shit where you eat.

chodadog · 08-26-2003, 07:38 PM

I tell you, it's a massive conspiracy. The government is shutting down all the extreme sites... for now. Relaunching them within a year, with their brand spanking new affiliate progra; Government Bucks.

http://www.governmentbucks.com

tony286 · 08-26-2003, 08:15 PM

Doesnt matter if you use FedEx, UPS or USPS or put the videos on the back of donkey and deliver them your still selling obscene videos across state lines which makes it a FEDERAL offence.

My lawyer told me if you use UPS or Fed Ex you are safe but that wasnt for the sale of shitting videos lol. It was for girl girl and solo girl stuff. If they hadnt used the us mail it would of made it harder to get them, using the US mail for obscene videos is a crime but people are lazy and want to keep shipping costs down. I can see it , we had a clothing business throwing something in a priority mail envelope is much easier then dealing with FED ex or UPS.

eatapeach · 08-26-2003, 09:08 PM

if i want to shit and take a video, and somebody else will pay me for that video, what business is it of the government?

i'll tell you: it's not.

so now, somebody come on here and tell me again how america is a free country.

like i've said in earlier posts, in america you're free to do what you're told or suffer the consequences.

KRL · 08-26-2003, 09:16 PM

Many webmasters are seriously ignorant of the laws governing production and distribution of obscene material and the type of content that increases their risk exposure.

With prosecutions all but guaranteed, I'm amazed how many people are still pushing the limits with the GFY attitude and distributing content that puts them right in the cross hairs to be next up to bat.

If you think you can mess with the Federal Government, you better have enormously deep pockets. Odds are against you just by the sheer size of the resources at their disposal to rock your world from top to bottom.

Going to be a lot of rude awakenings in the year ahead. That is for sure.

KRL · 08-26-2003, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by eatapeach
if i want to shit and take a video, and somebody else will pay me for that video, what business is it of the government?

i'll tell you: it's not.

Really? What law school did you learn this in?

eatapeach · 08-26-2003, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL

Really? What law school did you learn this in?

'

it doesn't matter whether i have a law degree or not.

before the civil war it was a law that i could own a person with black skin. so is that ok because it was a law?

and since that person was my property if i wanted to i could kill him. so is that ok because it was a law?

see, just because something's a law doesn't mean its right.

and consensual acts between two adults that doesn't harm others, even if it's buying a tape of me taking a shit, is no business of the government.

KRL · 08-26-2003, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by eatapeach
'

it doesn't matter whether i have a law degree or not.

before the civil war it was a law that i could own a person with black skin. so is that ok because it was a law?

and since that person was my property if i wanted to i could kill him. so is that ok because it was a law?

see, just because something's a law doesn't mean its right.

and consensual acts between two adults that doesn't harm others, even if it's buying a tape of me taking a shit, is no business of the government.

I'll let you in on a little secret. The government is a power unto itself and doesn't give a flying fuck what the people think at the end of the day.

By the way I agree with you on the concept. Why the government is taking our tax dollars to prosecute a couple selling pictures of themselves going to the bathroom is kind of pushing the limits of absurdity in light of all the serious problems in this country. But you have to recognize the government has some extremely conservative folks in extremely powerful positions right now that get to set the agenda. And right now the adult industry is on their menu.

D-man · 08-26-2003, 09:32 PM

Read the story! If your in West Virginia and doing a scat site then what the fuck ever - see this is how the stereo type WV redneck comes to play!

Sly_RJ · 08-26-2003, 09:33 PM

You guys must be on crack.

Video distribution is a big business with a lot of laws. You break those laws, whether you think they're "right" or not, you're going to get your ass busted. Cry, whine, and complain all you want about it not being "fair"... but when a clear cut law is being broke, shut the fuck up and suck up your ignorance. Run a legitimate business and you'll eliminate a good chunk of your risk.

In some states, certain porn is considered obscene and WILL get you busted. Simple tip: DON'T TELL TO THAT STATE!

eatapeach · 08-26-2003, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL

I'll let you in on a little secret. The government is a power unto itself and doesn't give a flying fuck what the people think at the end of the day.

which leads to my comment in my earlier post, in america you are free to do what you're told, or suffer the consequences.

it sucks but its true.

eatapeach · 08-26-2003, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Cry, whine, and complain all you want about it not being "fair"... but when a clear cut law is being broke, shut the fuck up and suck up your ignorance.

yeah, because as everyone knows this country was founded by people who respected the authority of the state and didn't dare question it.

what a pussy attitude.

Sly_RJ · 08-26-2003, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by eatapeach

yeah, because as everyone knows this country was founded by people who respected the authority of the state and didn't dare question it.

what a pussy attitude.

Hey man, if you want to go against the grain and fight laws that you feel are unjust, go for it. You have my support. But don't go acting all shocked and pissed off when you get your ass handed to you.

GrimShawn · 08-26-2003, 09:40 PM

Crazy

pudcat · 08-26-2003, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Hey man, if you want to go against the grain and fight laws that you feel are unjust, go for it. You have my support. But don't go acting all shocked and pissed off when you get your ass handed to you.

sounds like a free country

Rictor · 08-26-2003, 10:00 PM

Crappy.

OneHungLo · 08-27-2003, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404
My lawyer told me if you use UPS or Fed Ex you are safe but that wasnt for the sale of shitting videos lol. It was for girl girl and solo girl stuff. If they hadnt used the us mail it would of made it harder to get them, using the US mail for obscene videos is a crime but people are lazy and want to keep shipping costs down. I can see it , we had a clothing business throwing something in a priority mail envelope is much easier then dealing with FED ex or UPS.

Is this lawyer of yours familiar with federal law? If your sending illegal things across state lines you are committing a federal offense. It really doesn't matter if your using the united states postal service or Joe's shit video delivery co.

tony286 · 08-27-2003, 08:19 AM

Yes in fact all he does is Adult internet law, his name is AJ Compretta.

cherrylula · 08-27-2003, 08:26 AM

I wonder what they serve for lunch at a scat shoot. Or imagine the jokes at the restaurant after. Crazy shit!

hmm then again they probably do lunch first ewwwwww hahaha

ADL Colin · 08-27-2003, 08:39 AM

bhutocracy · 08-27-2003, 08:40 AM

I can't believe the feds have got the time to waste cracking open photoshop and slapping a fake rubber stamp over the image... what are they, dogs pissing to mark their area?

gregtx · 08-27-2003, 08:45 AM

don't see the problem..

CP and Beast is also considered "illegal"/obscene... in the US

so are you righteous anti governement peeps going to defend those products too???

there is plenty of $$$ producing and selling plain vanilla mainstream... if someone is brave enough to go out on a limb and walk that gray area... then they should be prepared to face that 10,000 pound gorilla..

its all about ROI.. if you spend more money on your legal fees trying to defend your stance on obscenity... than you put in your pocket.. you should really re-think your business model

steffie · 08-27-2003, 08:47 AM

For those who think there is nothing to worry about let me refresh your memory

http://www.reds-realm.net/ourstory.html

eatapeach · 08-27-2003, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gregtx
don't see the problem..

CP and Beast is also considered "illegal"/obscene... in the US

so are you righteous anti governement peeps going to defend those products too???

you didn't read my posts closely enough. i'll point out my exact statement since you couldn't be bothered with paying attention:

Quote:

consensual acts between two adults that doesn't harm others, even if it's buying a tape of me taking a shit, is no business of the government.

obviously, sex with a child or an animal is not a consensual act between two adults.

if that makes me a "righteous anti-govenrment peep" so be it.

FATPad · 08-27-2003, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Many webmasters are seriously ignorant of the laws governing production and distribution of obscene material and the type of content that increases their risk exposure.

With prosecutions all but guaranteed, I'm amazed how many people are still pushing the limits with the GFY attitude and distributing content that puts them right in the cross hairs to be next up to bat.

If you think you can mess with the Federal Government, you better have enormously deep pockets. Odds are against you just by the sheer size of the resources at their disposal to rock your world from top to bottom.

Going to be a lot of rude awakenings in the year ahead. That is for sure.

Yep.

Danny_C · 08-27-2003, 10:28 AM

From a business perspective, I agree with Greg... it's just not worth it to push the boundaries in that way. The risks are far greater than the rewards.

But I wish somebody could explain to me why even extreme porn between consenting adults should be illegal. We know it is, and I agree that it's not worth some of the risks, but that doesn't mean the laws have any merit.

eatapeach · 08-27-2003, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Danny_C

But I wish somebody could explain to me why even extreme porn between consenting adults should be illegal. We know it is, and I agree that it's not worth some of the risks, but that doesn't mean the laws have any merit.

it's the same thing with drug laws. it's against the law because the powers that be say it's against the law.

anyone with half a brain knows that if you aren't harming someone else it's no big deal.

however, we are talking about the government here.

tony286 · 08-27-2003, 12:39 PM

What consenting adult do should be their business but adult webmasters should also have to tighten up their business. I get hit with the most graphic spam, keep throwing it in peoples faces. Its not like behind the counter, its in John Q Public's face when he checks his email or worse when his 10 yr old checks her email. Domains that are misspellings of mainstream sites that hit with a very graphic pop up bombs. Alot of this is the industries fault, since no one wants to police themselves now the Government will. As far as Reds-realm goes get a office where kids arent there, its a business treat it like one. The problem is Adult webmasters think they are special other businesses have rules and laws they must follow, bars to do, banks do, insurance agents do etc. Why shouldnt adult webmasters have to follow rules and the law? The people they are going after are making it very easy, it wasnt like they were set up and it was a plot.

08-26-2003, 05:15 PM	#1
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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Doesnt matter if you use FedEx, UPS or USPS or put the videos on the back of donkey and deliver them your still selling obscene videos across state lines which makes it a FEDERAL offence. My lawyer told me if you use UPS or Fed Ex you are safe but that wasnt for the sale of shitting videos lol. It was for girl girl and solo girl stuff. If they hadnt used the us mail it would of made it harder to get them, using the US mail for obscene videos is a crime but people are lazy and want to keep shipping costs down. I can see it , we had a clothing business throwing something in a priority mail envelope is much easier then dealing with FED ex or UPS.

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eatapeach Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: toto's doghouse Posts: 493	if i want to shit and take a video, and somebody else will pay me for that video, what business is it of the government? i'll tell you: it's not. so now, somebody come on here and tell me again how america is a free country. like i've said in earlier posts, in america you're free to do what you're told or suffer the consequences.

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KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	Many webmasters are seriously ignorant of the laws governing production and distribution of obscene material and the type of content that increases their risk exposure. With prosecutions all but guaranteed, I'm amazed how many people are still pushing the limits with the GFY attitude and distributing content that puts them right in the cross hairs to be next up to bat. If you think you can mess with the Federal Government, you better have enormously deep pockets. Odds are against you just by the sheer size of the resources at their disposal to rock your world from top to bottom. Going to be a lot of rude awakenings in the year ahead. That is for sure. __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

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Sly_RJ Live Hard - Die Hard Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ready to leave... Posts: 17,042	You guys must be on crack. Video distribution is a big business with a lot of laws. You break those laws, whether you think they're "right" or not, you're going to get your ass busted. Cry, whine, and complain all you want about it not being "fair"... but when a clear cut law is being broke, shut the fuck up and suck up your ignorance. Run a legitimate business and you'll eliminate a good chunk of your risk. In some states, certain porn is considered obscene and WILL get you busted. Simple tip: DON'T TELL TO THAT STATE! __________________ PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price! sly AT phatservers DOT com - 147479144

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gregtx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,929	don't see the problem.. CP and Beast is also considered "illegal"/obscene... in the US so are you righteous anti governement peeps going to defend those products too??? there is plenty of $$$ producing and selling plain vanilla mainstream... if someone is brave enough to go out on a limb and walk that gray area... then they should be prepared to face that 10,000 pound gorilla.. its all about ROI.. if you spend more money on your legal fees trying to defend your stance on obscenity... than you put in your pocket.. you should really re-think your business model __________________ Processing Partners http://www.processingpartners.com Last edited by gregtx; 08-27-2003 at 08:47 AM..

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08-27-2003, 10:28 AM	#46
Danny_C Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,160	From a business perspective, I agree with Greg... it's just not worth it to push the boundaries in that way. The risks are far greater than the rewards. But I wish somebody could explain to me why even extreme porn between consenting adults should be illegal. We know it is, and I agree that it's not worth some of the risks, but that doesn't mean the laws have any merit.

08-27-2003, 12:39 PM	#48
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	What consenting adult do should be their business but adult webmasters should also have to tighten up their business. I get hit with the most graphic spam, keep throwing it in peoples faces. Its not like behind the counter, its in John Q Public's face when he checks his email or worse when his 10 yr old checks her email. Domains that are misspellings of mainstream sites that hit with a very graphic pop up bombs. Alot of this is the industries fault, since no one wants to police themselves now the Government will. As far as Reds-realm goes get a office where kids arent there, its a business treat it like one. The problem is Adult webmasters think they are special other businesses have rules and laws they must follow, bars to do, banks do, insurance agents do etc. Why shouldnt adult webmasters have to follow rules and the law? The people they are going after are making it very easy, it wasnt like they were set up and it was a plot.