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pine · 08-27-2003, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BVF

no way....I'm at a .3% chargeback rate and I've been going for over two years in this niche.

Wow! That's an amazing ratio, BVF...well done.

bigdog · 08-27-2003, 02:45 PM

Telling kimmykim to shut the fuck up is not very professional. She was just trying to help you.

Platinum Lantern · 08-27-2003, 02:57 PM

I apologize Kimmy
that was uncalled for on my part

I just mean to say that I ran a very good site...
and the people who charged back who I saw having a good ol time downloading movies all day and who decided they didn't want to pay for the porn they enjoyed after they got their bill...

I ran a good site..
Rebills where coming in strongly...

I'm more so just a victim of my processor

Kimmykim · 08-27-2003, 02:59 PM

You are not a victim of your processor and that is what I was trying to point out to you.

This business is not easy like it used to be, not at all.

If you're having issues at 2.5 months, you need to seriously have a look at your setup since something is not right.

Don't worry about apologizing, just fix it or you'll never be able to keep processing.

freeadultcontent · 08-27-2003, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
You are not a victim of your processor and that is what I was trying to point out to you.

This business is not easy like it used to be, not at all.

If you're having issues at 2.5 months, you need to seriously have a look at your setup since something is not right.

Don't worry about apologizing, just fix it or you'll never be able to keep processing.

I read between the lines, see those space?

Quote:

Originally posted by Platinum Lantern
I apologize Kimmy
that was uncalled for on my part
you stupid bitch
I just mean to say that I ran a very good site...
and the people who charged back who I saw having a good ol time downloading movies all day and who decided they didn't want to pay for the porn they enjoyed after they got their bill...
you just do not know what your talking about
I ran a good site..
Rebills where coming in strongly...
so bite me
I'm more so just a victim of my processor

Now fight

Fabien · 08-27-2003, 03:16 PM

Better get use to the 1% chargeback thing !!!

Anyways, Visa/Master wants third parties to go away that's all !!!

Freenetpass is putting a damn console on their sites to make more sales (at 2$) to cover their asses against chargebacks.

Guys, it's only the begining, VISA/MASTER want to get the FUCK OUT of porn PERIOD !!!!!!

emmanuelle · 08-27-2003, 04:18 PM

While I've never had a problem with chargebacks (.1% /4+ years)

At least your processor terminated you on their own accord, rather than have them forced to terminate you by Visa.

At least you have the opportunity to fix the problems, and go to another processor. If Visa had forced them to shut you down, you'd never get Visa again.

lexr · 08-27-2003, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Battuss
Every company has to stay under the 1% right?

You will have the same problem with your next billing company.

Remember there's supposed to be a 100 CB minimum I believe. It's mentioned on another thread here with discussion from the CCBill and Paycom/Epoch dudes.

Kimmykim · 08-27-2003, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fabien
Better get use to the 1% chargeback thing !!!

Anyways, Visa/Master wants third parties to go away that's all !!!

Freenetpass is putting a damn console on their sites to make more sales (at 2$) to cover their asses against chargebacks.

Guys, it's only the begining, VISA/MASTER want to get the FUCK OUT of porn PERIOD !!!!!!

I dont agree with the second and fourth lines in your post.

Jay_StandAhead · 08-27-2003, 06:03 PM

One time I tried to get a decline from Probilling to test something, so I used an expired CC.

Well guess what, the sale went through

That's when we stopped even considering them as a 900 billing solution. I'm not sure if the sale became a refund later of what, but that's scary.

BVF · 08-27-2003, 06:44 PM

at least two of the probilling reps in florida were cool as hell....

at least they know how to hire reps

SENSEX · 08-27-2003, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BVF
at least two of the probilling reps in florida were cool as hell....

at least they know how to hire reps

Probilling only has two employees. They work out of there basement in Calgary Alberta.

Sly_RJ · 08-27-2003, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BVF
at least two of the probilling reps in florida were cool as hell....

at least they know how to hire reps

Not implying that ProBilling is shady... BUT, if I were running a shady company, I would hire the coolest mother fuckers for reps. It's amazing what people can get away with when they're "cool". It's all about perception.

Now, me, personally, I don't want to deal with "cool" reps. I don't care how hard they can party or how many chicks they can get me, if they don't know their game they're worthless to me. I know some damn cool reps in this industry, unfortunately they don't know shit about the game...

The Other Steve · 08-27-2003, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Not implying that ProBilling is shady... BUT, if I were running a shady company, I would hire the coolest mother fuckers for reps. It's amazing what people can get away with when they're "cool". It's all about perception.

Now, me, personally, I don't want to deal with "cool" reps. I don't care how hard they can party or how many chicks they can get me, if they don't know their game they're worthless to me. I know some damn cool reps in this industry, unfortunately they don't know shit about the game...

Sad how many people don't see it that way though

MandyD · 08-27-2003, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Platinum Lantern

I ran a good site..
and had a kick ass members area even by webmasters standards..

Even showed a preview of the members area to customers before they sign up...

Maybe your opinion is good most of the time..
but today it's not asked for, not needed, and incorrect

I may be reading a little too much into this, but you keep referring to past tense... ie; I ran a good site... and had a kick ass members area... is this site still in operation?? Is the members area still being kept up to date? That could be a cause of the chargebacks and possibly your termination with probilling.... Or I could just be reading what you've said incorrectly.....

Speedy26 · 08-27-2003, 09:00 PM

I notice 50% of my chargebacks really got access for weeks sometimes months and logged into the members area daily, then chargeback saying they did not get access the members area.

FTVGirls · 08-27-2003, 09:32 PM

worst kind of CB is the ones who rebill with you over several months, then go and CB it all back....I'd love to know who they are.

frankthetank · 08-28-2003, 12:35 AM

You cannot put all your eggs in 1 basket, and you learn from all your mistakes. Probilling really does suck as they have the crappiest webmaster panel in the world, they dont even allow you to create free passes for yourself like Ibill does. Basically if your under 100 signups a month I would not even recommend processing transactions for a website, instead promote for another well established company with the traffic you are currently receiving. I believe this is what I am going to be doing, does anyone think this is a good idea for me to focus on?

jeroman · 08-29-2003, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by doober
for Jeroman,

Visa IPSP Program Changes
Effective October 1, 2003 Visa will lower their monitoring thresholds of its ?Merchant Chargeback Monitoring Program? for all merchants, regardless of their business classification, from 2.5% to 1%. In conjunction with that threshold decrease, Visa has raised the minimum number of chargebacks (cb?s) threshold per month to 100 .

Here's a thought...

What if it's 100+ charebacks per month OR 1%.
Either way is not allowed.

08-27-2003, 02:57 PM	#53
Platinum Lantern Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 1,564	I apologize Kimmy that was uncalled for on my part I just mean to say that I ran a very good site... and the people who charged back who I saw having a good ol time downloading movies all day and who decided they didn't want to pay for the porn they enjoyed after they got their bill... I ran a good site.. Rebills where coming in strongly... I'm more so just a victim of my processor __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

08-27-2003, 06:03 PM	#60
Jay_StandAhead Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,103	One time I tried to get a decline from Probilling to test something, so I used an expired CC. Well guess what, the sale went through That's when we stopped even considering them as a 900 billing solution. I'm not sure if the sale became a refund later of what, but that's scary. __________________ Our Programs: StandAhead \| IndieBucks \| BoyCrushCash \| Phoenixxx \| EmoProfits \| BritishBucks \| HunkMoney \| LatinoBucks Make $$$ with Gay! Lowest Minimum Payouts in the Business, Perfect Track Record, Amazing Sites

08-27-2003, 06:44 PM	#61
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08-27-2003, 02:45 PM	#52
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	Telling kimmykim to shut the fuck up is not very professional. She was just trying to help you.

08-27-2003, 02:59 PM	#54
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	You are not a victim of your processor and that is what I was trying to point out to you. This business is not easy like it used to be, not at all. If you're having issues at 2.5 months, you need to seriously have a look at your setup since something is not right. Don't worry about apologizing, just fix it or you'll never be able to keep processing.

08-27-2003, 03:16 PM	#56
Fabien Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,787	Better get use to the 1% chargeback thing !!! Anyways, Visa/Master wants third parties to go away that's all !!! Freenetpass is putting a damn console on their sites to make more sales (at 2$) to cover their asses against chargebacks. Guys, it's only the begining, VISA/MASTER want to get the FUCK OUT of porn PERIOD !!!!!!

08-27-2003, 04:18 PM	#57
emmanuelle Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Oh Canada! Posts: 3,662	While I've never had a problem with chargebacks (.1% /4+ years) At least your processor terminated you on their own accord, rather than have them forced to terminate you by Visa. At least you have the opportunity to fix the problems, and go to another processor. If Visa had forced them to shut you down, you'd never get Visa again.

08-27-2003, 09:00 PM	#66
Speedy26 Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: MI Posts: 950	I notice 50% of my chargebacks really got access for weeks sometimes months and logged into the members area daily, then chargeback saying they did not get access the members area.

08-27-2003, 09:32 PM	#67
FTVGirls So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,052	worst kind of CB is the ones who rebill with you over several months, then go and CB it all back....I'd love to know who they are.

08-28-2003, 12:35 AM	#68
frankthetank Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 616	You cannot put all your eggs in 1 basket, and you learn from all your mistakes. Probilling really does suck as they have the crappiest webmaster panel in the world, they dont even allow you to create free passes for yourself like Ibill does. Basically if your under 100 signups a month I would not even recommend processing transactions for a website, instead promote for another well established company with the traffic you are currently receiving. I believe this is what I am going to be doing, does anyone think this is a good idea for me to focus on?