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TheFLY · 08-21-2003, 07:44 PM

Let me know if you think this price is a good deal by looking at just the tour (one page)...

http://www.thefly.net/

candyflip · 08-21-2003, 07:46 PM

An error page is always a good start.

LasseKongos · 08-21-2003, 07:47 PM

HOT! Who is your customers?

TheFLY · 08-21-2003, 07:48 PM

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Originally posted by candyflip
An error page is always a good start.

What are you talking about?

tranza · 08-21-2003, 07:48 PM

WTF is the deal with those yellow tabs on the pics???

TheFLY · 08-21-2003, 07:48 PM

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Originally posted by LasseKongos
HOT! Who is your customers?

Everyone with an internet connection.

candyflip · 08-21-2003, 07:49 PM

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Originally posted by TheFLY

What are you talking about?

Wasn't there when I first clicked. It is now.

ScriptBall · 08-21-2003, 07:49 PM

I didn't get an error, Looks good, sounds interesting, Nice work

dirtysouth · 08-21-2003, 07:50 PM

I collect art. Where's your collection and how much?

TheFLY · 08-21-2003, 07:51 PM

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Originally posted by tranza
WTF is the deal with those yellow tabs on the pics???

It's not an adult site -- it's an information site.

nobull · 08-21-2003, 07:51 PM

The only thing that make me skeptical about buying information like this is "if you know how to make so much money why are you selling your ideas for 15 bucks" the whole concept does not make sense to me

skrog · 08-21-2003, 07:52 PM

Hey TheFLY is your program legit? Are you a rich sob? Will your program make me a rich sob?

TheFLY · 08-21-2003, 07:54 PM

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Originally posted by candyflip

Wasn't there when I first clicked. It is now.

Ahh -- I was probably updating the site right when you clicked it

Spunky · 08-21-2003, 07:54 PM

Get free flights, limos, hotel rooms, etc .. I like free etc

Amputate Your Head · 08-21-2003, 07:55 PM

looks real good, but the background kinda throws it outta wack for me... everything else gets the

TheFLY · 08-21-2003, 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by nobull
The only thing that make me skeptical about buying information like this is "if you know how to make so much money why are you selling your ideas for 15 bucks" the whole concept does not make sense to me

No matter how I present the information, most people will be skeptical -- but for only $15 I think most people can afford the risk. If $15 is too much for you to risk on usefull information -- maybe I should lower the price further?

Or maybe you don't need this information?

Besides, I'm hoping that people will read all the text and go with their gut instinct.

maxjohan · 08-21-2003, 08:05 PM

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Originally posted by tranza
WTF is the deal with those yellow tabs on the pics???

sell more maybe..got a clue?

maxjohan · 08-21-2003, 08:10 PM

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Originally posted by TheFLY

No matter how I present the information, most people will be skeptical -- but for only $15 I think most people can afford the risk. If $15 is too much for you to risk on usefull information -- maybe I should lower the price further? Or maybe you don't need this information?

Besides, I'm hoping that people will read all the text and go with their gut instinct.

I think your site looks good. how many pages is it?

Techie Media · 08-21-2003, 08:11 PM

Pete, I think you have a great Idea here. With the right marketing and promotion this may just make you some decent cash. My wheels are spinning and I may have a few Ideas to market this, I will hit you up tomorrow and we can talk.

TheFLY · 08-21-2003, 08:17 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
looks real good, but the background kinda throws it outta wack for me... everything else gets the

Yeah I keep changing that... I kindof like the sailboat idea -- seems to me to represent freedom, relaxation and no bullshit... I made it blurry for the small file size and I figured it seemed like a "dream" that's coming into focus.

nobull · 08-21-2003, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY

No matter how I present the information, most people will be skeptical -- but for only $15 I think most people can afford the risk. If $15 is too much for you to risk on usefull information -- maybe I should lower the price further? Or maybe you don't need this information?

Besides, I'm hoping that people will read all the text and go with their gut instinct.

I'm not saying it is not worth 15, i would buy it to see what you have to say. People buying information with the idea that the information will make them money just like it made the author money is kinda odd. I could never figure out why someone would spend the time to write the information up into a booklet and sell it for 15-50 bucks if they already made so much money. even if you sold it to 1000 webmasters you would only make 15k. I just dont get it.

On the other hand I think that the site is a strong informational site and you should do well selling the information to people that are just starting on this board and even on Ebay and other places were people have no clue to get this type of information.

I'm not knocking your site, your idea or your price....if anything i would bump the price up some. The people that are going to buy it are going to be from GFY that know who you are because you post alot.

OzKaNoz · 08-21-2003, 08:19 PM

Fly
Don't make it to cheap. If you do then it will look like it has no value. It's the perception of value that will make people buy.

There going to look at it and say "well if this really works then why is it selling for only $15? There's no way that it could if it's that cheap"

It's like buying a Rolex for $30 instead $600 bucks. There's just something that doesn't set right about it.

Oz

Indeed · 08-21-2003, 08:21 PM

have you started promoting it? You making any sale? Seems like you have been building it for a while...

dirtysouth · 08-21-2003, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nobull

I'm not saying it is not worth 15, i would buy it to see what you have to say. People buying information with the idea that the information will make them money just like it made the author money is kinda odd. I could never figure out why someone would spend the time to write the information up into a booklet and sell it for 15-50 bucks if they already made so much money. even if you sold it to 1000 webmasters you would only make 15k. I just dont get it.

On the other hand I think that the site is a strong informational site and you should do well selling the information to people that are just starting on this board and even on Ebay and other places were people have no clue to get this type of information.

I'm not knocking your site, your idea or your price....if anything i would bump the price up some. The people that are going to buy it are going to be from GFY that know who you are because you post alot.

Some people just like to feel good about what they do to the point of "sharing" with others why, in fact, they think they feel good about it. It feeds the fire so to speak. Makes them "truly" feel good to themselves, and that's what REALLY matters right?

maxjohan · 08-21-2003, 08:22 PM

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Originally posted by LasseKongos
HOT! Who is your customers?

you maybe..

mastermcp3 · 08-21-2003, 08:24 PM

can i get a free copy

TheFLY · 08-21-2003, 08:24 PM

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Originally posted by maxjohan
I think your site looks good. how many pages is it?

It's a really long .GIF file. If you print it out in Opera it's about 15 pages.

TheFLY · 08-21-2003, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightning
Pete, I think you have a great Idea here. With the right marketing and promotion this may just make you some decent cash. My wheels are spinning and I may have a few Ideas to market this, I will hit you up tomorrow and we can talk.

Ok looking forward to that

AWC · 08-21-2003, 08:30 PM

Pete... this is looking better all the time. Much improved over your first draft.

Something to keep in mind... your pitch makes it sound like you should be a geek to do this. That may subconsciously limit your market.

Stress that ANYONE can do this from their home... ala Don Lapre. Allude to your system and that THEY can do this too.

Just my

Good luck with your program.

fiveyes · 08-21-2003, 08:31 PM

Fine site!

A suggestion (ala Marlon Sanders), if I may:

Do up 2 or 3 small "resource packets" consisting of (say) content providers, message boards to network on, places to get site reviews and such. Not too much work to do some small docs that cover specific areas. Then add these as "Free Bonuses" for ordering before midnight of [a php or ssi generated date one day in the future].

TheFLY · 08-21-2003, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by OzKaNoz
Fly
Don't make it to cheap. If you do then it will look like it has no value. It's the perception of value that will make people buy.

There going to look at it and say "well if this really works then why is it selling for only $15? There's no way that it could if it's that cheap"

It's like buying a Rolex for $30 instead $600 bucks. There's just something that doesn't set right about it.

Oz

See I thought of this... That's why I link the tour directly to this thread... The potential buyers will have a real-life record of this conversation... Actual testimonials that aren't fabricated

TheFLY · 08-21-2003, 08:36 PM

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Originally posted by mastermcp3
can i get a free copy

No.

Rich · 08-21-2003, 08:39 PM

Shouldn't you learn how to make real money yourself before charging others for you advice?

DeanCapture · 08-21-2003, 08:42 PM

Looks good Pete - don't forget to market that shit on eBay - you can thank me later

d*

Nickless · 08-21-2003, 08:49 PM

looks good, i would put on top that it's has nothing to do with mlm (at least not 'traditional' mlm), chain letters or other bullshit, people searching for 'work from home' at google are burned out at that shit.

i would buy it just out of curiosity... and many others here at gfy i bet.

(your previous version focused on parties, etc. seemed like an inside joke, didn't know it was real until now

great improvement)

good luck with it!

Phoggy · 08-21-2003, 08:53 PM

I've thought about making a site like that...

If I were you, I charge at least $29.95...

And I'd promote it on galleries with a link like:

Why Are You SURFING For Porn When You Could Being Getting RICH off of it?
CLICK HERE To Learn The Secrets Of Becoming An Adult Webmaster

...Or something like that...

my 2 cents

KMR Stitch · 08-21-2003, 08:53 PM

Pete, Looks good but all the secrets for 15.00? Are you really that strapped for cash??

Maybe like 5 easy payments of 19.95

I would add something. I am not in it to sell you this info for a quick buck I am looking for more contacts to me that is more important then 15.00

Nickless · 08-21-2003, 08:54 PM

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Originally posted by Rich
Shouldn't you learn how to make real money yourself before charging others for you advice?

No, i can say from my own experience.

I've explained everything i know to my best friend and he's making 3 times more than i am, doing the same shit.

Ic3m4nZ · 08-21-2003, 08:56 PM

Everything alright except those yellow things on the tits.

Fletch XXX · 08-21-2003, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Phoggy
I've thought about making a site like that...

If I were you, I charge at least $29.95...

And I'd promote it on galleries with a link like:

Why Are You SURFING For Porn When You Could Being Getting RICH off of it?
CLICK HERE To Learn The Secrets Of Becoming An Adult Webmaster

...Or something like that...

my 2 cents

can you imagine the flow of newbies from HUn traffic clicking GFY threads. ;)

He links GFY from the front of the site.

chowda · 08-21-2003, 09:01 PM

why dont u ever smile?

hottoddy · 08-21-2003, 09:26 PM

I would stress the money, independence and creativity over all that partying with whores at Internext. Perhaps I'm jaded, but that's much less appealing than the $$$. However, the skank-o-rama fantasy aspect may appeal to a certain crowd.

eadweb · 08-21-2003, 09:44 PM

I remember seeing something similar here:

http://www.mybabybutt.com/live-off-the-net.index.htm

He charges $99

You should probably switch prices for a few weeks to see what actually gets you the best return.

TheFLY · 08-21-2003, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich
Shouldn't you learn how to make real money yourself before charging others for you advice?

Yeah I might have to throw up some screen shots of my big pimpin... But I'd rather not lead people on that they are going to make a bazillion dollars right away and then blame me... Like anything you get into it what you put into it. It's pretty obvious that I have been in the biz for a while -- here is proof now -- and why would I stay in it this long if I wasn't making a living off of it.

The whole strategy of my information revolves around building sites that will make money for years... getting access to traffic that won't dry up. I focus the information on building sites that don't require upkeep -- so you can build zillions of them and watch the money stack up without worrying about keeping bookmarkers and doing customer service bullshit...

Sure paysites are glamorous and profitable but they are also a pain in the ass. Why do you think I still run freesites after all these years? I like the freedom of freesites -- no contracts -- no angry customers -- so lawsuits -- nobody fucking with me -- period. I can take off for a month like Boneprone and not have to worry about my sites.

I don't have to worry about chargebacks or member retention... I live a simple life and that's the way I like it. I hope that comes through on the site. Simplicity.

Be your own boss. Quit your job. Retire. Simple

TheFLY · 08-21-2003, 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by chowda
why dont u ever smile?

chowda · 08-21-2003, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY

TheFLY · 08-21-2003, 10:30 PM

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Originally posted by dirtysouth
I collect art. Where's your collection and how much?

You like that red one? It's almost done -- I'm pretty proud of it. If you want I will send you a digital cam shot of it when it's finished and you can decide if you want it.

FUCKuPAYme · 08-21-2003, 11:04 PM

Fun read.

$15 is cheap I would go Higher or it sounds like a scam

chowda · 08-21-2003, 11:17 PM

out of all those, thats ur biggest smile.. come on!

dougeetx · 08-21-2003, 11:17 PM

Dude! Did you fuck Adriana
Sage??

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08-21-2003, 08:19 PM	#22
OzKaNoz Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Deep With In Your Mind Posts: 1,834	Fly Don't make it to cheap. If you do then it will look like it has no value. It's the perception of value that will make people buy. There going to look at it and say "well if this really works then why is it selling for only $15? There's no way that it could if it's that cheap" It's like buying a Rolex for $30 instead $600 bucks. There's just something that doesn't set right about it. Oz __________________ Techie Media Web Hosting Last edited by OzKaNoz; 08-21-2003 at 08:21 PM..

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Indeed Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,892	have you started promoting it? You making any sale? Seems like you have been building it for a while...

08-21-2003, 08:24 PM	#26
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AWC Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Bumfuck Posts: 1,223	Pete... this is looking better all the time. Much improved over your first draft. Something to keep in mind... your pitch makes it sound like you should be a geek to do this. That may subconsciously limit your market. Stress that ANYONE can do this from their home... ala Don Lapre. Allude to your system and that THEY can do this too. Just my Good luck with your program.

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Nickless Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: homeless Posts: 1,955	looks good, i would put on top that it's has nothing to do with mlm (at least not 'traditional' mlm), chain letters or other bullshit, people searching for 'work from home' at google are burned out at that shit. i would buy it just out of curiosity... and many others here at gfy i bet. (your previous version focused on parties, etc. seemed like an inside joke, didn't know it was real until now great improvement) good luck with it!

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Phoggy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 49	I've thought about making a site like that... If I were you, I charge at least $29.95... And I'd promote it on galleries with a link like: Why Are You SURFING For Porn When You Could Being Getting RICH off of it? CLICK HERE To Learn The Secrets Of Becoming An Adult Webmaster ...Or something like that... my 2 cents __________________ PerfectCash.com - Where Hot Sluts Make You Big Cash

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KMR Stitch I am cool Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 14,494	Pete, Looks good but all the secrets for 15.00? Are you really that strapped for cash?? Maybe like 5 easy payments of 19.95 I would add something. I am not in it to sell you this info for a quick buck I am looking for more contacts to me that is more important then 15.00

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hottoddy Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: PacNorWest Posts: 3,048	I would stress the money, independence and creativity over all that partying with whores at Internext. Perhaps I'm jaded, but that's much less appealing than the $$$. However, the skank-o-rama fantasy aspect may appeal to a certain crowd.

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eadweb Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 196	I remember seeing something similar here: http://www.mybabybutt.com/live-off-the-net.index.htm He charges $99 You should probably switch prices for a few weeks to see what actually gets you the best return. __________________ I don't need no stinking sig.

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