If a 3rd party biller accidentally wired you an extra $2000... - GoFuckYourself.com

rowan · 08-20-2003, 04:49 PM

...and your account had been cancelled, what would you do?

This is not a hypothetical, it happened to me. I'm just curious what others would do.

NBDesign · 08-20-2003, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan
...and your account had been cancelled, what would you do?

This is not a hypothetical, it happened to me. I'm just curious what others would do.

Spend it fast

Muff · 08-20-2003, 04:50 PM

Give it back to avoid get nailed in the butt when they figure it out.

BVF · 08-20-2003, 04:50 PM

if your account had been cancelled, i'd just withdraw the money...but if you were in good standing, I would let them know about their mistake..

take the 2G and run

GeXus · 08-20-2003, 04:50 PM

Hm.. Hang on to it for a few months.. see if they say anything, if they do.. give them the money.. if not.. enjoy it

BVF · 08-20-2003, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Muff
Give it back to avoid get nailed in the butt when they figure it out.

if the BANK accidentally gave him that money, he'd be fucked if he spent it...but if a company does it, what can they do?

JamesK · 08-20-2003, 04:52 PM

take the money

2000$ is nothing for them

have fun with it bro

twistyneck · 08-20-2003, 04:52 PM

Sponsors keep webmaster money all the time, this is just a little payback. Spend it.

Kimmykim · 08-20-2003, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BVF

if the BANK accidentally gave him that money, he'd be fucked if he spent it...but if a company does it, what can they do?

I'm sure in his contract they can take it back out of his bank account.

rowan · 08-20-2003, 04:58 PM

There was a situation a few years ago where a bank mistakenly deposited $1m to someone else's account... the lady who owned that account wanted to see if the money was 'real' so she transferred $100k to another of her accounts, then back again. Unfortunately doing this incurs a state government deposit tax, so the fees added up to several thousand dollars for both transfers. Once the bank reversed the $1m deposit, her account ended up being (severely) negative. At the time I saw the story aired on TV, the bank refused to reverse the fees even though she had not spent the money, or moved it outside of the bank.

mrthumbs · 08-20-2003, 04:59 PM

depends on the biller but usually id just send it back..

Extra's like that kill the karma.

Thrawn$ · 08-20-2003, 05:00 PM

Have a nice day

Muff · 08-20-2003, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BVF

if the BANK accidentally gave him that money, he'd be fucked if he spent it...but if a company does it, what can they do?

Why go thru the hassles for $2000? That is my point.

Rochard · 08-20-2003, 05:03 PM

Depends on your morals and values really. I'd give it back.

Odie · 08-20-2003, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrthumbs
depends on the biller but usually id just send it back..

Extra's like that kill the karma.

I agree...karma is a crazy thing if u believe in it...can get pretty crazy...

rowan · 08-20-2003, 05:05 PM

Just to make one thing clear, this biller is still in business... it's not like globill or WSB did the mistake as a parting gift.

I'll post what I did with that money, and why, later.

tranza · 08-20-2003, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeXus
Hm.. Hang on to it for a few months.. see if they say anything, if they do.. give them the money.. if not.. enjoy it

I second that

Webby · 08-20-2003, 05:13 PM

Just email em and wire it back or tell em to take it off your account.. standard shit.

Happened twice to us so far.

hitman699 · 08-20-2003, 05:16 PM

Id keep it definatly. These billers fuck us all the time... Its about time they get fucked. Or you can send it to me and Ill spend it for you...

Webby · 08-20-2003, 05:21 PM

Mmm.. kinda shows the ethics of some "webmasters"... Sheesh!

Extreme John · 08-20-2003, 05:21 PM

Amazing how life works, if you keep it the Karma will cost you $5,000 but when you get the ram rod from a billing company constantly on stuff they dont seem to catch that bad Karma back.

Tell them once, but certainly not twice.

plexer · 08-20-2003, 05:23 PM

I wish that shit would happen to me!

Keep it!

Sly_RJ · 08-20-2003, 05:25 PM

Such little theives in here. Karma's a bitch.

Every now and then I get a check from some company I don't know. Always double check who it is before cashing...

Bigjohn · 08-20-2003, 05:44 PM

My experiences with situations like this is that 95% of the time its better to let them know they may have made a mistake and give it back.

Honesty and good deeds have a way of coming back around and often the future benefits far out weigh gain of the mistake. I don't know you so I don't know if you have your own paysite or just push other sites but think about the business difference between a group of people that trust you and a group of people that don't. Word of your actions (both good and bad) have a way of getting around.

ReAlisTiC · 08-20-2003, 05:45 PM

i would inform them of the mistake and take it from there

keeping it is stealing

digifan · 08-20-2003, 05:49 PM

I got a similiar check earlier from my fave sponsor and I emailed and icqd him asap warning him that the check was twice the amount they owed me... guess what, I made like 2 or 3 sales with them only after their accident. How that is?

Bama · 08-20-2003, 05:54 PM

I had the very same thing happen to me for roughly the same $ amount before.

I contacted the sponsor and they said keep it.

I couldn't have slept nights if I'd have spent the money without their knowing about the mistake.

MonsterMike · 08-20-2003, 06:23 PM

Something similar happened to me with a new home loan. I received my first statement and the bank (Wells Fargo) left a ZERO off my loan balance. Two days later, we received a corrected statement. DAMN!!!

GoodChris · 08-20-2003, 06:34 PM

Keep the money and take them out for dinner and strippers at the next show. Thats what they would have done with it anyway.

rowan · 08-20-2003, 06:47 PM

Ok, here's what I did.

I enjoyed having a bit extra in my account for an hour, then contacted the biller. I went to the bank 30 mins later to get them to reverse the transaction. (It was actually just over $2800, checked back over the correspondence)

I'm in another country and all they had was a PO box address to track me down, so I probably could have got away with keeping it. I had a debt that was worth about that much which I could have paid off that day. However, I believe that honesty is the best policy. We're not talking about someone in the shop giving you an extra 20c in change.

The biller got most of their money back (minus the reversal fees and USD-AUD-USD currency conversion losses), and I got to feel good about myself for a bit.

Still, spending that money would have been nice...

Raven · 08-20-2003, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan
Just to make one thing clear, this biller is still in business... it's not like globill or WSB did the mistake as a parting gift.

I'll post what I did with that money, and why, later.

It happened to us with CCBill a few years ago....a glitch in their accounting gave us more money in our wire...

We called them and gave it back.

It's a karma thing.

Sneak8r · 08-20-2003, 07:25 PM

Glad to hear you gave it back, they need that money to pay the Visa and Mastercard fines....... lol

IMHO: I would have done the same.

wargames · 08-20-2003, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan
...and your account had been cancelled, what would you do?

This is not a hypothetical, it happened to me. I'm just curious what others would do.

spend it

Hentai · 08-20-2003, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan
There was a situation a few years ago where a bank mistakenly deposited $1m to someone else's account... the lady who owned that account wanted to see if the money was 'real' so she transferred $100k to another of her accounts, then back again. Unfortunately doing this incurs a state government deposit tax, so the fees added up to several thousand dollars for both transfers. Once the bank reversed the $1m deposit, her account ended up being (severely) negative. At the time I saw the story aired on TV, the bank refused to reverse the fees even though she had not spent the money, or moved it outside of the bank.

"state government deposit tax" ...WTF?

BVF · 08-20-2003, 07:45 PM

only time that happened is when a check was lost in the mail and ccbill sent me another check. Then later, the lost check showed up and I could have taken it to the liquor store and cashed it but I just tore it up....

rowan · 08-20-2003, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hentai

"state government deposit tax" ...WTF?

I can't remember the exact details, but there were two charges a business account attracted - both based on a percentage of the amount deposited to it. One was state and one was federal. A transfer between two accounts in the same name (even the same bank) was still considered a deposit to the destination account. Both have been abolished as of July 1st, 2001. I guess she had business accounts. *shrug*

BTW - my state is Victoria, in Australia.

Sly_RJ · 08-20-2003, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BVF
only time that happened is when a check was lost in the mail and ccbill sent me another check. Then later, the lost check showed up and I could have taken it to the liquor store and cashed it but I just tore it up....

I'm sure CCBill put a "stop payment" on the first check.

icedemon · 08-20-2003, 09:46 PM

I had payout one of my affiliates one time and he told me that I paid him too much. I told him to just keep it as a bonus.

ThunderBalls · 08-20-2003, 10:24 PM

Three years ago I was going to do some banner advertising on Lycos for six grand. After signing the contract there was something about my banners that they didnt like so I killed the deal before I sent them the money and never heard another word about it. About six months ago I got a check in the mail from Terra Networks for six thousand dollars that said 'advertising refund'. Hell yea I kept it.

Ashley-CashMountain · 08-20-2003, 10:28 PM

You Should've kept it for as long as possible.. because any interest that u earned on it was yours - and no-one could touch it..

although interest on $2000 would be shit all.

1900guru · 08-21-2003, 03:43 AM

Call me a pussy, but I would return it.

I wouldn't sleep at night if I didn't and 2k is not worth the hassles it could bring.

Jinx_Co · 08-21-2003, 03:52 AM

I'd sit on it and if it seemed all clear after about a month just spend it.

stocktrader23 · 08-21-2003, 03:55 AM

Karma payback is ten-fold.

MarcoTC · 08-21-2003, 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan
Ok, here's what I did.

I enjoyed having a bit extra in my account for an hour, then contacted the biller. I went to the bank 30 mins later to get them to reverse the transaction. (It was actually just over $2800, checked back over the correspondence)

I'm in another country and all they had was a PO box address to track me down, so I probably could have got away with keeping it. I had a debt that was worth about that much which I could have paid off that day. However, I believe that honesty is the best policy. We're not talking about someone in the shop giving you an extra 20c in change.

The biller got most of their money back (minus the reversal fees and USD-AUD-USD currency conversion losses), and I got to feel good about myself for a bit.

Still, spending that money would have been nice...

IMP^or^SNiTL.e · 08-21-2003, 04:38 AM

buy a giant pie

08-20-2003, 04:49 PM	#1
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	If a 3rd party biller accidentally wired you an extra $2000... ...and your account had been cancelled, what would you do? This is not a hypothetical, it happened to me. I'm just curious what others would do.

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08-20-2003, 04:58 PM	#10
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	There was a situation a few years ago where a bank mistakenly deposited $1m to someone else's account... the lady who owned that account wanted to see if the money was 'real' so she transferred $100k to another of her accounts, then back again. Unfortunately doing this incurs a state government deposit tax, so the fees added up to several thousand dollars for both transfers. Once the bank reversed the $1m deposit, her account ended up being (severely) negative. At the time I saw the story aired on TV, the bank refused to reverse the fees even though she had not spent the money, or moved it outside of the bank.

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mrthumbs salad tossing sig guy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: mrthumbs*gmail.com Posts: 11,702	depends on the biller but usually id just send it back.. Extra's like that kill the karma.

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08-20-2003, 05:05 PM	#16
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Just to make one thing clear, this biller is still in business... it's not like globill or WSB did the mistake as a parting gift. I'll post what I did with that money, and why, later.

08-20-2003, 05:13 PM	#18
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Just email em and wire it back or tell em to take it off your account.. standard shit. Happened twice to us so far.

08-20-2003, 05:16 PM	#19
hitman699 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 159	Id keep it definatly. These billers fuck us all the time... Its about time they get fucked. Or you can send it to me and Ill spend it for you...

08-20-2003, 05:21 PM	#20
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Mmm.. kinda shows the ethics of some "webmasters"... Sheesh!

08-20-2003, 05:21 PM	#21
Extreme John Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Fl Posts: 1,475	Amazing how life works, if you keep it the Karma will cost you $5,000 but when you get the ram rod from a billing company constantly on stuff they dont seem to catch that bad Karma back. Tell them once, but certainly not twice. __________________ Florida Honnies - Extreme John 51299342

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08-20-2003, 05:44 PM	#24
Bigjohn Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Deep inside my mind Posts: 1,118	My experiences with situations like this is that 95% of the time its better to let them know they may have made a mistake and give it back. Honesty and good deeds have a way of coming back around and often the future benefits far out weigh gain of the mistake. I don't know you so I don't know if you have your own paysite or just push other sites but think about the business difference between a group of people that trust you and a group of people that don't. Word of your actions (both good and bad) have a way of getting around.

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Bama Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 2,727	I had the very same thing happen to me for roughly the same $ amount before. I contacted the sponsor and they said keep it. I couldn't have slept nights if I'd have spent the money without their knowing about the mistake.

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08-20-2003, 06:47 PM	#30
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Ok, here's what I did. I enjoyed having a bit extra in my account for an hour, then contacted the biller. I went to the bank 30 mins later to get them to reverse the transaction. (It was actually just over $2800, checked back over the correspondence) I'm in another country and all they had was a PO box address to track me down, so I probably could have got away with keeping it. I had a debt that was worth about that much which I could have paid off that day. However, I believe that honesty is the best policy. We're not talking about someone in the shop giving you an extra 20c in change. The biller got most of their money back (minus the reversal fees and USD-AUD-USD currency conversion losses), and I got to feel good about myself for a bit. Still, spending that money would have been nice...

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08-20-2003, 10:28 PM	#40
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08-21-2003, 04:38 AM	#45
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