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Old 08-18-2003, 10:05 PM   #1
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Making AVS a waste of time?

I am starting to wonder if making AVS is a waste of time seeing the changes brought forward by VISA. Sexcheck closed because of that and other AVS don't seem to react much toward these changes apart from some little politics changes. But really nothing to reassure us, at least in the short term.

What do you guys think?
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Old 08-18-2003, 10:08 PM   #2
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i think its a good question
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Old 08-18-2003, 10:12 PM   #3
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I would vote for waste of time...
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Old 08-18-2003, 10:12 PM   #4
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Ok, doing an AVS site now.. Big Q is which AVS program?

Can't give up just cause a few fail....
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Old 08-18-2003, 10:16 PM   #5
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Poltics DOES have a lot to do with the problems we're having... John Hahahaha won't be in office for ever....

We need the Terminator to win Govenor of CA. Then he can tell the feds to get the hell out of porn in his state!! OR least put up some road blocks!
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Old 08-18-2003, 10:25 PM   #6
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Unless your going to make alot of AVS sites, it's a waste of time....JMO
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Old 08-19-2003, 03:26 AM   #7
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no it isn't a waste of time at all, you just have to pay attention to who you deal with, and don't follow the submit and forget philosophy. You must promote your site just like you would anything else you wanted to sell.
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Old 08-19-2003, 04:08 AM   #8
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no it isn't a waste of time at all, you just have to pay attention to who you deal with, and don't follow the submit and forget philosophy. You must promote your site just like you would anything else you wanted to sell.
Exactly! When I started a few years ago I built hundreds of them and if I had to do it over today I would build a handfull and concentrate on driving traffic to them
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Old 08-19-2003, 04:18 AM   #9
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no it isn't a waste of time at all, you just have to pay attention to who you deal with, and don't follow the submit and forget philosophy. You must promote your site just like you would anything else you wanted to sell.

Its a waiste of time, AVS wont be here much longer, in my opinion with the new rule about the AVS having to own all domains, I cant see how its workable. Any AVS top dogs here Id be interested in what they say
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Old 08-19-2003, 05:38 AM   #10
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Its a waiste of time, AVS wont be here much longer, in my opinion with the new rule about the AVS having to own all domains, I cant see how its workable. Any AVS top dogs here Id be interested in what they say
Yep, so no hard links or bookmarks to your own domains...
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Old 08-19-2003, 05:54 AM   #11
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Old 08-19-2003, 05:56 AM   #12
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Poltics DOES have a lot to do with the problems we're having... John Hahahaha won't be in office for ever....

We need the Terminator to win Govenor of CA. Then he can tell the feds to get the hell out of porn in his state!! OR least put up some road blocks!
Arnie is a Republican eh there the bad guys remember?
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Old 08-19-2003, 06:01 AM   #13
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Its a waiste of time, AVS wont be here much longer, in my opinion with the new rule about the AVS having to own all domains, I cant see how its workable. Any AVS top dogs here Id be interested in what they say
I dont know DP has you put their content on a subdomain. There servers. Whats the story on that
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Old 08-19-2003, 08:19 AM   #14
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i think its a good question
Does this mean you're not dead?

Or are you talking from beyond the grave?

If it's the latter, I have some more questions?
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Old 08-19-2003, 08:22 AM   #15
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Its a waiste of time, AVS wont be here much longer, in my opinion with the new rule about the AVS having to own all domains, I cant see how its workable. Any AVS top dogs here Id be interested in what they say
Except that might not actually be a VISA rule... There's only Sexcheck which has said this.
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Old 08-19-2003, 08:22 AM   #16
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How come the big AVS folks are not talking?
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Old 08-19-2003, 08:26 AM   #17
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I'd like to hear any word on this from any of them.
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Old 08-19-2003, 08:28 AM   #18
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is it me or is there a difference for Visa between free trial AVS and an AVS like Netverifier for exemple?
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Old 08-19-2003, 08:54 AM   #19
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How come the big AVS folks are not talking?
I may be a newbie (on GFY anyway), but money talks, bullshit walks. Most, if not all of the major players will not even consider a NEW AVS idea.
If XYZ-AVS is billing $50k or more per week, do you think they are going to get the same mail/reply as a start up? Please.

Think "Crack Whores being beat up and fucked till they bleed by angry homeless men"

The after math in the ER should make for some interesting hits.

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Old 08-19-2003, 08:59 AM   #20
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Get the fuck out of the AVS game...Don't waste your time!
Especially newbies!
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Old 08-19-2003, 10:20 AM   #21
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Any AVS top dogs here Id be interested in what they say
this dog says you do not know WTF you are talking about. It is all about evolution, and I can assure you we are here to stay.
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Old 08-19-2003, 10:21 AM   #22
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waste of time now. I would wait until visa and mastercard stops fucking with the avs systems
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Yep, so no hard links or bookmarks to your own domains...
wrong. . . . just because SexCheck decided to go the route they did does not make it a fact. That is just how they decided to deal with the situation
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Old 08-19-2003, 10:24 AM   #24
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is it me or is there a difference for Visa between free trial AVS and an AVS like Netverifier for exemple?
I think free trials may soon become a thing of the past. We won't be offering them any more.
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Old 08-19-2003, 10:28 AM   #25
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Arnie is a Republican eh there the bad guys remember?
He's economically conservative but socially liberal.
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Old 08-19-2003, 10:34 AM   #26
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We need the Terminator to win Govenor of CA. Then he can tell the feds to get the hell out of porn in his state!! OR least put up some road blocks!
go buy a clue. This has nothing to do with politics, and a new governor in CA would not make a difference if it did.

We are not talking highway funds here.
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Old 08-19-2003, 04:19 PM   #27
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Its a waiste of time, AVS wont be here much longer, in my opinion with the new rule about the AVS having to own all domains, I cant see how its workable. Any AVS top dogs here Id be interested in what they say
I dont know DP has you put their content on a subdomain. There servers. Whats the story on that
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Old 08-19-2003, 04:22 PM   #28
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Old 08-19-2003, 05:11 PM   #29
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Unless your going to make alot of AVS sites, it's a waste of time....JMO
Thats the dumbest advice i have heard for awhile. Mass producing sites so you can leech the link lists and do upsells is the old way and its not going to work well anymore. Only smart way to do avs now is to make one huge premium site (or a very small number) with regular updates and promote the hell out of it. Because
1. Take note of what ac is doing cleaning house, others will follow
2. If avs does go away or change too much you can easily convert one large site to a paysite model.
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Old 08-19-2003, 07:42 PM   #31
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i think it is cause AVS is in a catastrophe now.
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