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Mutt · 08-17-2003, 08:20 AM

bullshit Dynaspain.

people get EXACTLY what they expect when I give them a photo or movie of a naked chick, I don't promise them they can meet that girl or she wants to meet them. A rational reasonable human being knows exactly what he's getting with pornography.

the penis enlargement people are outright deceiving people, preying on their desperation, banking on that desperation.
when the day comes that there is a pill or technique that can really deliver a bigger penis then all the more power to those companies who can deliver people that, they'll be giving alot of troubled insecure men some relief. what these snake oil salesmen are doing is setting up people for additional disappointment and depression.

there are people out there who do help people with their self image, go to a doctor/dentist for a consultation for all sorts of cosmetic procedures, breast implants, teeth whitening, hair restoration, nose job, whatever - the doctor will take time to find out the person's expectations, show them photographs, make sure the person understands what's possible and what isn't in their case. They don't over-promise because they are decent human beings and professionals.

Drug companies are guilty of some of the same things but at least a drug goes through YEARS of testing and has to prove some level of real efficacy before it's released. None of this penis enlargement crap has gone through any remotely scientifically credible testing.

serious · 08-17-2003, 08:57 AM

man how can you be so fucking stupid

XxXotic · 08-17-2003, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cheekycherry
Brad Sommers
Brad Sommers ([email protected])
225-923-0234
10667 Rhus Fringe
Baton Rouge, LA 70816
US

thats right down the street from me

Total Distance: 10.21 miles
Total Estimated Time: 14 minutes

cheekycherry · 08-17-2003, 01:41 PM

Interesting...

Bump...

Brizzad, where is your response?

freeadultcontent · 08-17-2003, 01:57 PM

Mutt I personally also think the Penis pills/enlargement via non surgical procedures is bullshit. That standing, nobody is forcing them to make those purchases. Same with breast enlargement, ect. Fuck there are hypnotisist that swear they can make a womans boobs grow by sheer will alone. Unethical yes, illegal no. Been going on since forever. It is all snake oil, yet if your not taking advantage of someones real illness such as cancer ect. Then shame on the seller and on the buyer.

This however is about copyright theft, not validity of a product. Everyone should be against copyright theft despite the reasoning. Specially if you happen to be a producer of copyrighted material such as yourself.

We should never mix the issues, slam them all you wish about the products, but do not slam them for claiming theft.

p00p · 08-17-2003, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cheekycherry

I hope you are kidding. I find it hard to see the funny side of this so I apologize if you are... If not, read both sites closely beyond the first page. You will see the obvious copy and pasting.

You are right. Blatant ripoff. Get on his hosting company, not him.

cheekycherry · 08-17-2003, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by freeadultcontent
Mutt I personally also think the Penis pills/enlargement via non surgical procedures is bullshit. That standing, nobody is forcing them to make those purchases. Same with breast enlargement, ect. Fuck there are hypnotisist that swear they can make a womans boobs grow by sheer will alone. Unethical yes, illegal no. Been going on since forever. It is all snake oil, yet if your not taking advantage of someones real illness such as cancer ect. Then shame on the seller and on the buyer.

This however is about copyright theft, not validity of a product. Everyone should be against copyright theft despite the reasoning. Specially if you happen to be a producer of copyrighted material such as yourself.

We should never mix the issues, slam them all you wish about the products, but do not slam them for claiming theft.

Thanks for the kind words

Like you said, this is about copyright infringement, not product efficacy.

cheekycherry · 08-17-2003, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p00p

You are right. Blatant ripoff. Get on his hosting company, not him.

You are right, but then he might then just shift to another host and rip off somebody else or me once again. This guy needs stopping right now, if it means taking everything he owns through the courts, then so be it.

p00p · 08-17-2003, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cheekycherry

You are right, but then he might then just shift to another host and rip off somebody else or me once again. This guy needs stopping right now, if it means taking everything he owns through the courts, then so be it.

He most likely has nothing. Go for his host and his billers. Sure, he can move hosts. But there are only so many billers out there...

cheekycherry · 08-17-2003, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p00p

He most likely has nothing.

That's what I'm guessing, as my Lawyer has said in the past "they are often men of straw-they have nothing".

He'll have even less if he doesn't comply. He must own a Television? Computer? etc.

I have a very good relationship with Clickbank, his billing account is as good as toast.

p00p · 08-17-2003, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cheekycherry

That's what I'm guessing, as my Lawyer has said in the past "they are often men of straw-they have nothing".

He'll have even less if he doesn't comply. He must own a Television? Computer? etc.

I have a very good relationship with Clickbank, his billing account is as good as toast.

Quite often it will cost far more in lawyer fees than it is worth. Sure, you will make his life miserable, but is the cost worth it?

cheekycherry · 08-17-2003, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p00p

Quite often it will cost far more in lawyer fees than it is worth. Sure, you will make his life miserable, but is the cost worth it?

True... But maybe it'll be worth it. To make an example.

I'm hoping it doesn't have to go that far, but I am perfectly prepared to do so if the need is there.

Guys shouldn't be able to steal my work, and then brag about the conversion ratios as though they had achieved them themselves.

rooster · 08-17-2003, 02:51 PM

"the penis enlargement people are outright deceiving people, preying on their desperation, banking on that desperation."

Welcome to capitalism.

eatapeach · 08-17-2003, 06:00 PM

chodadog · 08-17-2003, 07:00 PM

I love how he uses the name of your site and others on his page. What a genius. I'm going to sign up for cash for inches RIGHT NOW!!!

DTK · 08-17-2003, 07:08 PM

The silence is deafening, isn't it? Especially for someone who averages 20 posts a day.....

VanHeusen · 08-17-2003, 07:10 PM

has it been 24hrs yet ?

Plan9 · 08-17-2003, 07:23 PM

Just out of curiousity are you planning on taking legal action? or just getting him to take the sites down?

Brad Mitchell · 08-17-2003, 07:26 PM

I always get a kick out of copyright infringement... Shit, why don't you just sue the motherfucker?

Brad

brizzad · 08-17-2003, 08:12 PM

i actually payed someone $50 for a "top notch sales letter type website that converts" im very sorry, im taking the site down now

contact me on icq 42605356

guess i deserve this for being cheap

p00p · 08-17-2003, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brizzad
i actually payed someone $50 for a "top notch sales letter type website that converts" im very sorry, im taking the site down now

contact me on icq 42605356

guess i deserve this for being cheap

Good one! You better be prepared to back that bullshit up to cheekycherry with names/emails etc.

brizzad · 08-17-2003, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p00p

Good one! You better be prepared to back that bullshit up to cheekycherry with names/emails etc.

i will.. trust me

i cant believe i got fucked like this

jennym · 08-17-2003, 08:38 PM

XxXotic and Brad

Y'all are very close to me!

xxxdesign-net · 08-17-2003, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cheekycherry

True... But maybe it'll be worth it. To make an example.

I'm hoping it doesn't have to go that far, but I am perfectly prepared to do so if the need is there.

Guys shouldn't be able to steal my work, and then brag about the conversion ratios as though they had achieved them themselves.

All penis enlargement sites steal info/text from each others...

Is it your team of researchers that came up with that new revolutionary method of PE!? Give me a break.. you took it from every other PE sites.. but unlike bazzad... you changed the wording... He's an ass for doing so... but dont act like your site is 100% original

brizzad · 08-17-2003, 08:41 PM

are my posts being ignored?

i didnt copy... but it is my fault for not researching this 'web designer' and not proof reading his work

if i get sued, the money is coming out of this so called designer's pockets

p00p · 08-17-2003, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brizzad
are my posts being ignored?

i didnt copy... but it is my fault for not researching this 'web designer' and not proof reading his work

if i get sued, the money is coming out of this so called designer's pockets

You're not going to get sued unless you leave the site up.

OneHungLo · 08-17-2003, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brizzad
i actually payed someone $50 for a "top notch sales letter type website that converts" im very sorry, im taking the site down now

contact me on icq 42605356

guess i deserve this for being cheap

bullshit

Obie Trice · 08-17-2003, 08:45 PM

0wn3d

serious · 08-17-2003, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brizzad
i actually payed someone $50 for a "top notch sales letter type website that converts" im very sorry, im taking the site down now

contact me on icq 42605356

guess i deserve this for being cheap

took you a while to come up with a good excuse

brizzad · 08-17-2003, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by serious

took you a while to come up with a good excuse

i just got home

i dont live on this board 24/7 .. i walked in, got online and saw i had an email linking to this post...

VanHeusen · 08-17-2003, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by serious

took you a while to come up with a good excuse

that was good?

brizzad · 08-17-2003, 08:49 PM

this thread sure is getting a lot of attention... i bet if i had a swoit sig, i could pay for cochran

AWW - Kevin · 08-17-2003, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brizzad

if i get sued, the money is coming out of this so called designer's pockets

love to know who the "designer" is !

lEricPl · 08-17-2003, 08:52 PM

In the past I hired a technical/marketing writer for a couple mainsteam sites.

It was never published on the web because it was complete shit and I lost a couple hundred bucks in the deal.

I learned a lesson though about writing websites...if you want it done right..do it yourself.

brizzad · 08-17-2003, 08:52 PM

just someone that lives in baton rouge with me

i sent cheekycherry an email explaining everything

serious · 08-17-2003, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VanHeusen

that was good?

well if he can get one of his friends to play the 'designer' it might work.

serious · 08-17-2003, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lEricPl
In the past I hired a technical/marketing writer for a couple mainsteam sites.

It was never published on the web but it was complete bullshit and I lost a couple hundred bucks in the deal.

I learned a lesson though about writing websites...if you want it done right..do it yourself.

or hire a pro with references/portfolio

Fatbat · 08-17-2003, 08:54 PM

Another Brad, and there's a Brad in this post replying... I'm Brad. How many friggin Brads are there on this forum?

VanHeusen · 08-17-2003, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by serious

well if he can get one of his friends to play the 'designer' it might work.

good point lol

However, I would have thought the..

"my employee did it" would have been better

lEricPl · 08-17-2003, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by serious

or hire a pro with references/portfolio

Yep.

Good writers are hard to come by.

I have yet to see one with a 'real' portfolio of technical writings.

I'm sure they're out there...I have yet to find them though.

tranza · 08-17-2003, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brizzad
this thread sure is getting a lot of attention... i bet if i had a swoit sig, i could pay for cochran

Lol.... It's time to make some money then.......

Odin88 · 08-17-2003, 09:05 PM

Quote:

All penis enlargement sites steal info/text from each others...

Is it your team of researchers that came up with that new revolutionary method of PE!? Give me a break.. you took it from every other PE sites.. but unlike bazzad... you changed the wording... He's an ass for doing so... but dont act like your site is 100% original

My thoughts exactly...

FRANKENSTEIN · 08-17-2003, 09:31 PM

REFERENCE THREAD:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=165137

cheekycherry · 08-18-2003, 12:27 AM

Ok, Listen up Mr Brad Sommers.

The last 24 hours have been very unproductive for me. My whole Sunday was taken up waiting for you to reply, emailing various people, making calls and preparing basics of a case for our legal representatives to take up today (Monday).

I don't like this kind of blatant theft and it simply CANNOT go on! It must be stopped and that is what I intend to do.

I DO NOT believe your excuse for a minute, and secondly neither would the courts - and you know it.

Copyright law is primarily a civil law, and therefore you may be happy to hear that however this turns out, you are unlikely to receive Jail time. Having said that, I do fully intend to seek compensation/damages for this blatant disregard for my company's product and promotional literature and the laws in place to protect it.

You claim in your email that you have made NO profits from the website, but you also claim that in your original thread:

"it's converting 1:35-1:45"

Bragging about a conversion ratio on a site you have never made a sale of? So you were dishonest right there to the whole of the GFY webmaster community, correct?

Proving you have not made any money from the site will also not be a defense, nor would it be a concern to me.

However dishonest you appear to be as an individual, I DO believe that you have NOT made any money from that site. However much *quality* work you try to steal and use as your own, turning profits from any website isn't easy. It takes skill, knowledge and a level of understanding of certain concepts you have proved you cannot grasp.

We can discuss via email, the possibilities open to you for dealing with this outside of the courts. If no reasonable and compensatory conclusion is obtained, my company will be filing for a civil lawsuit against you.

On a personal level, the way I see it is, this is an open and shut case. YOU are in the wrong, and any action would see my company as the damaged party and therefore compensated. It is now YOUR choice as to whether you want me to step up to the plate and prove my word that this CAN go all the way, or you want to sort it out WITHOUT the courts.

Please be warned, this is a VERY serious case of copyright infringement and this is how my company is treating it.

This has been posted on GFY and emailed to you. I await your response Mr Sommers.

Dildozer · 08-18-2003, 12:29 AM

pwned

VanHeusen · 08-18-2003, 12:35 AM

cheekycherry · 08-18-2003, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by brizzad

if i get sued, the money is coming out of this so called designer's pockets

Wrong... If you get sued, it will be coming out of yours. I believe you MAY then be able to sue him for your loss. You are unlikely to win.

I'm sorry to tell you this (again, not really hoping to educate you)...

You promoted the business as YOURS, profit or loss is 100% yours.

p00p · 08-18-2003, 12:37 AM

Dude, he pulled the site. Isn't that what you wanted? Your goal?
Good luck trying to prove damages....You will spend $1000's trying to do it, as opposed to the $20 he made. If that.

Theo · 08-18-2003, 12:40 AM

i believe he took his lesson......hopefully

cheekycherry · 08-18-2003, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by VanHeusen

good point lol

However, I would have thought the..

"my employee did it" would have been better

I agree, it would have been better

but still not a defense due to the law of Vicarious Liability. You are Vicariously Liable for actions of your employees.

08-17-2003, 08:20 AM	#51
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	bullshit Dynaspain. people get EXACTLY what they expect when I give them a photo or movie of a naked chick, I don't promise them they can meet that girl or she wants to meet them. A rational reasonable human being knows exactly what he's getting with pornography. the penis enlargement people are outright deceiving people, preying on their desperation, banking on that desperation. when the day comes that there is a pill or technique that can really deliver a bigger penis then all the more power to those companies who can deliver people that, they'll be giving alot of troubled insecure men some relief. what these snake oil salesmen are doing is setting up people for additional disappointment and depression. there are people out there who do help people with their self image, go to a doctor/dentist for a consultation for all sorts of cosmetic procedures, breast implants, teeth whitening, hair restoration, nose job, whatever - the doctor will take time to find out the person's expectations, show them photographs, make sure the person understands what's possible and what isn't in their case. They don't over-promise because they are decent human beings and professionals. Drug companies are guilty of some of the same things but at least a drug goes through YEARS of testing and has to prove some level of real efficacy before it's released. None of this penis enlargement crap has gone through any remotely scientifically credible testing. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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brizzad holla Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: KFC Posts: 11,769	are my posts being ignored? i didnt copy... but it is my fault for not researching this 'web designer' and not proof reading his work if i get sued, the money is coming out of this so called designer's pockets

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08-18-2003, 12:27 AM	#94
cheekycherry Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: N/A Posts: 1,703	Ok, Listen up Mr Brad Sommers. The last 24 hours have been very unproductive for me. My whole Sunday was taken up waiting for you to reply, emailing various people, making calls and preparing basics of a case for our legal representatives to take up today (Monday). I don't like this kind of blatant theft and it simply CANNOT go on! It must be stopped and that is what I intend to do. I DO NOT believe your excuse for a minute, and secondly neither would the courts - and you know it. Copyright law is primarily a civil law, and therefore you may be happy to hear that however this turns out, you are unlikely to receive Jail time. Having said that, I do fully intend to seek compensation/damages for this blatant disregard for my company's product and promotional literature and the laws in place to protect it. You claim in your email that you have made NO profits from the website, but you also claim that in your original thread: "it's converting 1:35-1:45" Bragging about a conversion ratio on a site you have never made a sale of? So you were dishonest right there to the whole of the GFY webmaster community, correct? Proving you have not made any money from the site will also not be a defense, nor would it be a concern to me. However dishonest you appear to be as an individual, I DO believe that you have NOT made any money from that site. However much quality work you try to steal and use as your own, turning profits from any website isn't easy. It takes skill, knowledge and a level of understanding of certain concepts you have proved you cannot grasp. We can discuss via email, the possibilities open to you for dealing with this outside of the courts. If no reasonable and compensatory conclusion is obtained, my company will be filing for a civil lawsuit against you. On a personal level, the way I see it is, this is an open and shut case. YOU are in the wrong, and any action would see my company as the damaged party and therefore compensated. It is now YOUR choice as to whether you want me to step up to the plate and prove my word that this CAN go all the way, or you want to sort it out WITHOUT the courts. Please be warned, this is a VERY serious case of copyright infringement and this is how my company is treating it. This has been posted on GFY and emailed to you. I await your response Mr Sommers.

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08-18-2003, 12:40 AM	#99
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	i believe he took his lesson......hopefully