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Old 08-16-2003, 11:58 PM   #1
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Would You Give Up Your Freedom To Change The Course Of Your Country's Fate?

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Aren't we already thanks to Bush?
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Old 08-17-2003, 12:00 AM   #4
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Aren't we already thanks to Bush?
that's not really what I had in mind, but I guess I can see it that way.

my question was more of, would you be willing to give up your freedom to maybe remove him?
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What course are we talking about here?
The slow, incremental slide to socialism?
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What course are we talking about here?
The slow, incremental slide to socialism?
NO, the fact that if a small percentage of Florida voters had gotten off their asses our country might be very different? Have you once gave that thought a second?

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Im talking good old american style voting.

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It seems that as technology progresses we gain knowledge, yet lose freedoms because of the abuse of that knowledge...
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NO, the fact that if a small percentage of Florida voters had gotten off their asses our country might be very different? Have you once gave that thought a second?

I thought the problem was *caused* by a bunch of Florida voters who got off their asses... and couldn't read the ballot ;)
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And what they apparently did to that kid later on.



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It seems that as technology progresses we gain knowledge, yet lose freedoms because of the abuse of that knowledge...
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Or how about this, Fletch:

Would you vow to stop using computers and the internet & try to get everyone else to stop using computers because that kind of technology gives more power to the tracking of efficiency in beaurocracy?

Would you be willing to do something else for income?
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I thought the problem was *caused* by a bunch of Florida voters who got off their asses... and couldn't read the ballot ;)
No, i read there was 2 million peopl in florida who didnt vote, and that he won by a small number of votes.
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personally i think that is one of the GREATEST pictures representing an individual who WANTS freedom EVER.
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No, i read there was 2 million peopl in florida who didnt vote, and that he won by a small number of votes.
Well hell Fletch there's millions of folks in every state who don't bother to go vote. Just take a look at the number of people here who say it's not worth the time. (Of course there's a lot of dead people who somehow find the time and make the effort too, especially in large cities... - but that just makes it worse)

Here's a question: if you could remove Bush, who would you put in his place?
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personally i think that is one of the GREATEST pictures representing an individual who WANTS freedom EVER.
Most definitely. That's one very brave soul... well, it was one very brave soul.
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Well hell Fletch there's millions of folks in every state who don't bother to go vote. Just take a look at the number of people here who say it's not worth the time. (Of course there's a lot of dead people who somehow find the time and make the effort too, especially in large cities... - but that just makes it worse)

Here's a question: if you could remove Bush, who would you put in his place?
Answering a question with a question always fails the test.
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Most definitely. That's one very brave soul... well, it was one very brave soul.
The Chinese are notoriously vicious with dissidents. Even when they do the executions they send the family a bill for the bullets.

The torture chambers are horrendous beyond imagination from what I've read.

Looks like they did a real number on that college student.

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Answering a question with a question always fails the test.
I still am not sure what you're asking.
Your vision of the country's course might be far different than mine (and probably is).
But you could be talking about anything... therefore I won't answer until I know exactly what it is you're asking.

I'm not answering a question with a question - I'm simply asking you a question as a side-note to the discussion.
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The torture chambers are horrendous beyond imagination from what I've read.

Looks like they did a real number on that college student.

Bastards.
*sigh*

I don't even want to look at that picture of his dead body again.

May he rest in peace and may he one day be seen as a martyr in his own country.
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my question was more of, would you be willing to give up your freedom to maybe remove him?
If this is more clear on what you're asking... then no.
I see no reason to remove Bush. I don't agree with everything he's done, but there's some stuff (such as telling the UN to GFY) that I do agree with.

Have you thought about the fact that if you remove Bush, you'll put Cheney into his place? Do you honestly think that would be better?

IMHO the only real solution to any of this lies in a Tom Clancy novel and would be a horrible tragedy - but a terrific fresh start - for the country.
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I still am not sure what you're asking.
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The Chinese are notoriously vicious with dissidents. Even when they do the executions they send the family a bill for the bullets.

The torture chambers are horrendous beyond imagination from what I've read.

Looks like they did a real number on that college student.

Bastards.
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