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Old 08-16-2003, 07:21 PM   #1
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Operation Moron Spending

Before I let loose, I am not a registered Democrat or Republican. I am registered independant.

I supported the troops after they hit soil, did not support the point up until the war. I do not whine about the election, Bush stole it fairly, Gore hurt himself by distancing himself from Clinton.

That all said, how in the hell can this be right let alone correct?

1992 Bush version 1.0 sets a record deficit at $290 billion dollars.

2001 Clinton admin. Kills the $290 billion dollar deficit and ends the year with a $242 billon dollar projected surplus.

As of 7-28-03 Bush version 2.0 has erased the $242 billion dollar surplus, and sets a record deficit at $455 billion dollars.

For ease of math he somehow blew $697 billon dollars in 2 years, only halfway done.

As for the war, Bush version 1.0 did the Gulf war, we lost 147 of our troops. Current Bush version 2.0 war is at 149 as of 7/19.


Now 10 billion dollars to "once again" overhaul the airline industry against S.T.A.M. attacks is to much to spend. Afterall no S.T.A.M. have ever been used in the U.S. So why waist money on prevention? When we need it to overthrow a Government "in the name of prevention, or WMD, or..."

Your safer in the air now, the Government says so, and they have air marshalls with guns on the planes, and crap load of new Federal employees to perform rectal cavity searches on 90yr old elderly dissabled grandmothers. Yet somehow the underbelly of the plane is full of unsearched "mailing packages", but your safe because a terrorist could not determine that his/her bomb was on the plane they wanted. No need to spend money here or fix this.

Somehow various Bush/Chenny buddies got to participate in pre-war bids on the post war contracts. Somehow Bush gets to keep his energy meetings sealed, yet we know which hand Monica used. Somehow FCC rule changes are being pushed through but did not make it. Micheal Powell will be stepping down soon cause he dropped the ball, Washington people are saying he will be replaced by either Rebecca Klien (former Bush 2 staff member in Texas, head of the Texas public-utility comission. Or Kevin Martin who helped count Bush votes in Florida 2000 election. Yet shhh there is nothing going on during his watch.

Someone please explain to me why I am delusional.
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Old 08-16-2003, 07:25 PM   #2
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Bush has nothing against porn. Bush loves porn.

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Old 08-16-2003, 07:29 PM   #3
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Now 10 billion dollars to "once again" overhaul the airline industry against S.T.A.M. attacks is to much to spend. Afterall no S.T.A.M. have ever been used in the U.S. So why waist money on prevention? When we need it to overthrow a Government "in the name of prevention, or WMD, or..."
I agree with most of your post but that is a silly statement. That kind of head-in-the-sand ostrich bullshit is exactly what will eventually allow someone to take out a US airliner with a surface-to-air missile. Before September 11th no one had used 767s to bring down national icons, either. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

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I agree with most of your post but that is a silly statement. That kind of head-in-the-sand ostrich bullshit is exactly what will eventually allow someone to take out a US airliner with a surface-to-air missile. Before September 11th no one had used 767s to bring down national icons, either. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

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SpaceAce, that part I was being sarcastic about spending the money to fix it, of course it should be done. That is the Governments logic I was posting.
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yea dude I'm with you 100% I can not belive that there are people in this country that think he is doing a good job... Maybe they should raise their expectations for a president to a little bit more than just having a pulse...

This guy needs to be taken out of office fast, before we end up like the U.S.S.R and broke.
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SpaceAce, that part I was being sarcastic about spending the money to fix it, of course it should be done. That is the Governments logic I was posting.
My mistake. I thought you were stating a personal position on that being a waste of money.

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yea dude I'm with you 100% I can not belive that there are people in this country that think he is doing a good job... Maybe they should raise their expectations for a president to a little bit more than just having a pulse...

This guy needs to be taken out of office fast, before we end up like the U.S.S.R and broke.
I'll tell you one good thing I think GW Bush is doing: he's guaranteeing that Jeb will never make it into the Oval Office.

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My mistake. I thought you were stating a personal position on that being a waste of money.

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No worries, I personally think it would be more cost effective to use a S.T.A.M. on an airliner then try to get 6 guys to blow themselves up in the process.

On that note, has anyone really seen the security at various Military weapons depots? They are a friggen joke, and if the Columbians can get em, why can't some very well funded rich "cough Saudis" terrorists get them?

But hell why the trouble just mail a friggen bomb with gps and blow it at your leasure. Only would cause fear and utter terror, but that is not how terrorists work, they are more deliberate.
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For you conspiracy people: http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle3995.htm
I do not read conspiracy stuff, I am paranoid enough with just what I see publicly that nobody pays attention to.
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Please someone come and explain to me in straight talk why I am either wrong, delusional, or miss-informed. Otherwise I am going to get very depressed, I so want to be optimistic.
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Please someone come and explain to me in straight talk why I am either wrong, delusional, or miss-informed. Otherwise I am going to get very depressed, I so want to be optimistic.
just watch the fucking video
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just watch the fucking video
What video? There is a video?
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What video? There is a video?
duh...... http://www.informationclearinghouse...article3995.htm
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duh...... http://www.informationclearinghouse...article3995.htm

Link no work.
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Link no work.
http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle3995.htm

it was posted above anyways
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http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle3995.htm

it was posted above anyways
If this freaks me out, where do I foward the shrinks bills?
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If this freaks me out, where do I foward the shrinks bills?
24 Sussex, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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Ok just hearing the Dutch language at first which sounds alot like German, and the words Bush ect poping up sent shiveres down my spine.

So far on spooking out level from 1-100 doing about a 30 right now.
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Ok just hearing the Dutch language at first which sounds alot like German, and the words Bush ect poping up sent shiveres down my spine.

So far on spooking out level from 1-100 doing about a 30 right now.
after 1min47sec it turns to english, relax.
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after 1min47sec it turns to english, relax.
10 minutes into it already, im at a 45 now.
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22 minutes into it, you are a fucker! DAMN!!!!!!!!

Stress level hovering around 60.



30 minutes into it, bin laden crap hitting and I am in awe, is this even someone what debatable or is it backed by any second source facts?

level 80 now.

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22 minutes into it, you are a fucker! DAMN!!!!!!!!

Stress level hovering around 60.
so at what point will you get a heart attack?
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see above post.

Where are all the Bush Supporters normally here? Hello.... calm me down please.
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Fact: The likelihood of a shoulder fired surface to air missile taking out a commercial airliner is around nil.

Think about it people: a shoulder fired missile has less than five pounds of high explosive in the warhead and is heat seeking.

So if you fire one at a jet liner on takeoff best case scenario you will toast one of the engines: commercial pilots are trained for this sort of shit. They'll turn the bird around and land it.

Guess what Osama: you just spent $50k on the black market to inconvenience 200 people.

Of course if you could manage to blow the wing off and ignite the wing fuel tanks...that'd be impressive.

But does anybody remember Africa this past year? A bunch of guys tried to use a missile to knock out an airliner and they couldn't even hit the damn thing.
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Fact: The likelihood of a shoulder fired surface to air missile taking out a commercial airliner is around nil.

Think about it people: a shoulder fired missile has less than five pounds of high explosive in the warhead and is heat seeking.

So if you fire one at a jet liner on takeoff best case scenario you will toast one of the engines: commercial pilots are trained for this sort of shit. They'll turn the bird around and land it.

Guess what Osama: you just spent $50k on the black market to inconvenience 200 people.

Of course if you could manage to blow the wing off and ignite the wing fuel tanks...that'd be impressive.

But does anybody remember Africa this past year? A bunch of guys tried to use a missile to knock out an airliner and they couldn't even hit the damn thing.
Inconvience 200 people, scare the holy hell out of a hundred million or so. Assuming it just hits an engine in your scenerio. Hmmm 50k spent, millions of people panicing, yeah that would not do 50k in harm.

Shit a single suicide bomber with c4 self detonating in a public area and only wounding Americans would also scare the holy fuck out of the rest of America.

Isnt terror the key part of terrorism?

BTW. settled around a 65 or so after watching video, may get worse if I can not find any disputing facts.
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Isnt terror the key part of terrorism?
Indeed it is.

Which is why Palestinians usually wrap suicide bombers in nails and bolts: all those amputees limping around Tel Aviv serve as a daily reminder of the occupation.
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Inconvience 200 people, scare the holy hell out of a hundred million or so. Assuming it just hits an engine in your scenerio. Hmmm 50k spent, millions of people panicing, yeah that would not do 50k in harm.

Shit a single suicide bomber with c4 self detonating in a public area and only wounding Americans would also scare the holy fuck out of the rest of America.

Isnt terror the key part of terrorism?

BTW. settled around a 65 or so after watching video, may get worse if I can not find any disputing facts.
Have you seen bowling for columbine? espicially the animated short in the middle?
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Have you seen bowling for columbine? espicially the animated short in the middle?
Nah I like whats his name and all but he puts to much spin on shit for me to take seriously. Maybe I will see it if it airs on cable, but aint looking for it.
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That vid is pretty scary.. I'm sure it's somewhat of a propaganda tool....but still has a lot of truth in it...
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1992 Bush version 1.0 sets a record deficit at $290 billion dollars.

2001 Clinton admin. Kills the $290 billion dollar deficit and ends the year with a $242 billon dollar projected surplus.

As of 7-28-03 Bush version 2.0 has erased the $242 billion dollar surplus, and sets a record deficit at $455 billion dollars.

For ease of math he somehow blew $697 billon dollars in 2 years, only halfway done.

Some positive numbers there...
I wonder how Bush & Cheneys bank statements look like
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