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Old 08-12-2003, 03:24 PM   #1
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Hotmail served on unix ????

PPL keep telling me that Microsux HOTMAIL serving is hosted on UNIX ??? Can that be? Microsux exchange cant handle the hotmail load?



I sure hope this info is corrrrrect!
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Old 08-12-2003, 03:25 PM   #2
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Old 08-12-2003, 03:26 PM   #3
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Hotmail was purchased by Microsoft and the people that developed it had it on a Unix machine.... Microsoft has tried moving the network but it was too much of a pain.

They decided to keep it on UNIX boxes
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Old 08-12-2003, 03:27 PM   #4
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PPL keep telling me that Microsux HOTMAIL serving is hosted on UNIX ??? Can that be? Microsux exchange cant handle the hotmail load?



I sure hope this info is corrrrrect!
It's very correct.

Hotmail was not intiially a microsoft company, it was bought out
by them.

Microsoft has tried, unsuccessfully and to the STRONG aggravation of the higher ups, three times to switch the hotmail infrastructure to windows. Every time has been a complete disaster. Windows cannot handle 1/10th the load that FreeBSD can. The hotmail BSD servers are extremely well setup..

I've got a couple of friends who are admins & programmers there, they're very badass.
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Old 08-12-2003, 03:27 PM   #5
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I Knew it!
Damed MS, cant even handle themselves...

Well, didnt see the two inputs above.

Wonder about the license then...

This is a funny story. In some way.
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Old 08-12-2003, 03:35 PM   #6
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Yep, HotMail is living testament -- and permanent thorn in Gate's side -- of MS's limitations and inadequacies of handling large loads.

... Who says there is no God?
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hehehe.. Like ASP and PHP, Access and MySql... He!

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I think they're on FreeBSD (or some other BSD variant) running QMail, at least for their incoming SMTP servers.
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I think they're on FreeBSD (or some other BSD variant) running QMail, at least for their incoming SMTP servers.
Freebsd + Qmail + Apache, though for a while they were actually running Aol's webserver..

Aol & Hotmail were really the first two major adopters of Qmail.

Qmail rocks. 6 years, not a single security problem!

SEndmail is for turds.
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Old 08-12-2003, 03:45 PM   #11
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PPL keep telling me that Microsux HOTMAIL serving is hosted on UNIX ??? Can that be? Microsux exchange cant handle the hotmail load?

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I sure hope this info is corrrrrect!
yep, it's truth ))
I laught about 5 years back about it
but it's not cuz - Microsux as you talk - you must talk UNIsuX

Problem is - microsoft delevop it on unix first, so it's really hard to move it...
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Old 08-12-2003, 03:47 PM   #12
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Freebsd + Qmail + Apache, though for a while they were actually running Aol's webserver..

Aol & Hotmail were really the first two major adopters of Qmail.

Qmail rocks. 6 years, not a single security problem!

SEndmail is for turds.
Yep and yahoo still running on FREEBSD, and sure MacOS too
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yep, it's truth ))
I laught about 5 years back about it
but it's not cuz - Microsux as you talk - you must talk UNIsuX

Problem is - microsoft delevop it on unix first, so it's really hard to move it...
I laugh because I was in the datacenter in sunnyvale the night Microsoft first tried to move to Windows.. There were a bunch of laughing, stressed out unix geeks from hotmail, and then there were the microsoft crew.. ALL of them wearing white microsoft polo shits with a look of death on their face..

I heard they all got fired that week, and were apparently some of microsoft's best infrastructure guys.
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Old 08-12-2003, 03:49 PM   #14
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Yep and yahoo still running on FREEBSD, and sure MacOS too
My favorite tidbits are that the 2 largest databases on the web are both running off of linux clusters :

1. google.com
2. archive.com
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Old 08-12-2003, 03:52 PM   #15
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I laugh because I was in the datacenter in sunnyvale the night Microsoft first tried to move to Windows.. There were a bunch of laughing, stressed out unix geeks from hotmail, and then there were the microsoft crew.. ALL of them wearing white microsoft polo shits with a look of death on their face..

I heard they all got fired that week, and were apparently some of microsoft's best infrastructure guys.
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Old 08-12-2003, 04:00 PM   #16
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Yep, HotMail is living testament -- and permanent thorn in Gate's side -- of MS's limitations and inadequacies of handling large loads.

... Who says there is no God?
No man, if you're advanced microsoft administrator, you must know - microsoft always have very powerfull system NT system....

and it's can be alternative for UNIsuX
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I think they're on FreeBSD (or some other BSD variant) running QMail, at least for their incoming SMTP servers.
No it's looks 5 years back they not use FreeBSD
Anyway - microsoft buy UNIX licanse, so we will wait for new OS - MINIX )))
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Cant fight it UNIX is the back bone of the Internet
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My favorite tidbits are that the 2 largest databases on the web are both running off of linux clusters :

1. google.com
2. archive.com
archive.org...I just went to archive.com and it is some ppc spam site...lucky them, I guess...
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