Top Bucks Claims Responsibility for Party Flaps - GoFuckYourself.com

Deepundercover · 08-07-2003, 04:54 PM

Florida Sex-Shoot party during Internext was fun, but many claim there was organized unprotected sex with no condoms, mistreatment of talent and bad planning skills from coordinators hired to oversee the event.

http://www.topprotalent.com/newsdetail.php?ID=310

xxxdesign-net · 08-07-2003, 05:06 PM

Claims Responsibility? what does that mean? Will they pay Juicylinks for the big wart he noticed on his dick this morning!???

TheFLY · 08-07-2003, 05:07 PM

I walked into the room -- saw the usual hoard of guys acting like they had never seen a pair of tits in their life -- and I left...

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 08-07-2003, 05:08 PM

tests done yesterday dont mean shit when a "model" just got done blowing 5 guys or licking 6 pussies....without protection...

Serge_Oprano · 08-07-2003, 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
Claims Responsibility? what does that mean?

it means they will treat the AIDS recepient for FREE!!!!!!

hooray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Serge_Oprano · 08-07-2003, 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday
tests done yesterday dont mean shit when a "model" just got done blowing 5 guys or licking 6 pussies....without protection...

disgusting!!!

Im would NEVER let her lick MY pussy!
;-)))

DeanCapture · 08-07-2003, 05:10 PM

Shouldn't the talent be responsible for themselves? Jeeeez!

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 08-07-2003, 05:11 PM

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Originally posted by TheFLY
I walked into the room -- saw the usual hoard of guys acting like they had never seen a pair of tits in their life -- and I left...

i was seeing tons of those pics around..

TheFLY · 08-07-2003, 05:12 PM

I don't see the fucking problem. It's not like the girls were raped.

If they didn't want to have unprotected sex with strange men -- they wouldn't have. This all smells like a lame media stunt.

wargames · 08-07-2003, 05:12 PM

thats cool

Pipecrew · 08-07-2003, 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by DeanCapture
Shouldn't the talent be responsible for themselves? Jeeeez!

Soo true

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 08-07-2003, 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by DeanCapture
Shouldn't the talent be responsible for themselves? Jeeeez!

i would think so.. i would not trust no fucker that wants to make a buck off of me with my personal health..

girls/guys being absoluetley reckless all for a bit of sex..

xxxdesign-net · 08-07-2003, 05:15 PM

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Originally posted by DeanCapture
Shouldn't the talent be responsible for themselves? Jeeeez!

well actually, when you are hired for something, in front of alot of people... the pressure is on you and not everyone will have the guts to say No, im not doing this

AaronM · 08-07-2003, 05:15 PM

Say what you will but IMO Top Bucks and specifically Quentin handled this situation very professionally and they have learned from the experience. The fact that Q is not attempting to pass the buck in any way is enough to tell people what kind of a stand up person he is.

Mistakes may have been made. Deal with them, learn from them, and move on. We all have businesses to run and money to make.

to Top Bucks.

SykkBoy · 08-07-2003, 05:15 PM

I've always felt TopBucks was a class organization and my opinion isn't changed. I'm glad to see them accept responsiblity, but I don't think they should be entirely to blame as they trusted another company to oversee the talent and that company obviously didn't do their job 100%.

TopBucks threw a party I've heard great buzz about. Everyone attending had a great time. So, they did THEIR job, they showed webmasters a good time.

Will be interesting to see if the company responsible for the hiring of the performers will show as much class.

clubsexy · 08-07-2003, 05:16 PM

While reading that article, I decided to check my topbucks sales...

I had a new sale!

BradShaw · 08-07-2003, 05:19 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM
Say what you will but IMO Top Bucks and specifically Quentin handled this situation very professionally and they have learned from the experience. The fact that Q is not attempting to pass the buck in any way is enough to tell people what kind of a stand up person he is.

Mistakes may have been made. Deal with them, learn from them, and move on. We all have businesses to run and money to make.

to Top Bucks.

I agree, the interview with Q was straight up, no BS. Have to respect that. No doubt Top Bucks is a class act. Live and learn when dealing with talent "agents".

VideoJ · 08-07-2003, 05:25 PM

Give me a fucking break.

We gave the talent over 200 condome that night. The only unprotected sex was with couples who were partners and didn't need condums to have sex with their partner. In retrospect, we should have asked them to use condums so as not to confuse people.

The rest of the talent (both male and female) demanded condums before doing anything. They are professionals who are well aware of the risks. It's too bad the "reporter" is not a professional.

The only people on the bed were hired talent. Due to poor planning by the Topbucks staff, talent had to enter the set through the crowd, which makes it appear that people came out of the crowd. The talent room was located in another part of ball room and the talent had to walk through the VIP room to get to the shoot room, a walk of about 100 feet, around a bar and through the crowd..

Finally, no security was supplied by Topbucks or the hotel for the actual shooing area. There were probably 30 security people supplied by the hotel but they were used elsewhere. We even had to fight to get the talent from the VIP area to the shooting area, becase Topbucks set up security between the two areas and the security wouldn't let the talent through. I had to walk the talent through the security myself, since I had the appropiate badge.

AaronM · 08-07-2003, 05:29 PM

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Originally posted by VideoJ
The only people on the bed were hired talent. Due to poor planning by the Topbucks staff, talent had to enter the set through the crowd, which makes it appear that people came out of the crowd.

What about the people having sex in the VIP area? Did you hire them too? If so, bad move allowing that to go on there. When I go into a VIP or All Access area, it is usually to get away from the shit that is going on and maybe to do a little business. Kinda difficult to escape the sexual activities when they have spilled into the other areas.

SykkBoy · 08-07-2003, 05:34 PM

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Originally posted by VideoJ

The only people on the bed were hired talent. Due to poor planning by the Topbucks staff, talent had to enter the set through the crowd, which makes it appear that people came out of the crowd.

hmmm, didn't photogregg say something about pulling people out of the crowd to give it a "reality" feeling?

VideoJ · 08-07-2003, 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM

What about the people having sex in the VIP area? Did you hire them too? If so, bad move allowing that to go on there. When I go into a VIP or All Access area, it is usually to get away from the shit that is going on and maybe to do a little business. Kinda difficult to escape the sexual activities when they have spilled into the other areas.

We were responsable for the shoot only, not the VIP room. Anything that happened in the VIP room was Topbucks and Quickbucks responsiblity. Talk to Kevin and Hooper about that.

ChimpytheChatter · 08-07-2003, 05:38 PM

VideoJ said: We gave the talent over 200 condome that night. The only unprotected sex was with couples who were partners and didn't need condums to have sex with their partner. In retrospect, we should have asked them to use condums so as not to confuse people.

The rest of the talent (both male and female) demanded condums before doing anything. They are professionals who are well aware of the risks. It's too bad the "reporter" is not a professional.

The only people on the bed were hired talent. Due to poor planning by the Topbucks staff, talent had to enter the set through the crowd, which makes it appear that people came out of the crowd.

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Why do you keep changing your story? In some posts you say they all had condoms, in others say you say they all had tests, in others you say the random dudes from the crowd were prescreened, then I read a couple of posts from guys who were NOT screened and happily jumped in and banged a hotty or two, no condom.

If your trying to cling to your gig with Top Bucks, maybe you should try sticking to one story.

Yes it's ultimately the performers responsibility. But in an organized situation as the producers of the project you need to A: treat people nicely, and there are many witnesses that said Jason Block was a pure asshole to the girls, and B: Protect the company you're working for by getting all documentation upfront, including tests.

The smartest thing you could've done is shut the fuck up. You're not a spokesperson for topbucks, your the fuckin' help. Keep your pie hole shut so you don't get them straight into a law suit.

You also keep spending so much time blaming the poor dude at Top Pro Talent who only pointed out the things he was told, including comments from both sides. And it seems like with his fair reporting to both sides you got stuck in the middle of the whole thing as the asshole. Topbucks shined, the talent shined...the spotlight it on you.

I highly recommend you crawl your ugly old tired ass into a shell and change careers. Who the fuck wants to hire you now? (In all this shit posted on every board, news service, etc...have you seen anyone speak positively on YOUR behalf? Ugh...no.)

Deepundercover · 08-07-2003, 05:44 PM

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Originally posted by VideoJ

The only people on the bed were hired talent. Due to poor planning by the Topbucks staff, talent had to enter the set through the crowd, which makes it appear that people came out of the crowd.

He's lying. I've heard from people there whose friends who were not talent and not tested were pulled in to have sex.

08-07-2003, 05:49 PM

Hats off to Topbucks for pulling off a party like this, taking some heat, and taking all the blame.

VideoJ said: The only people on the bed were hired talent. Due to poor planning by the Topbucks staff, talent had to enter the set through the crowd, which makes it appear that people came out of the crowd.

From what I've heard, your company was in charge of the photoshoot. Maybe YOU guys should have planned it better. I was pretty sure Photo Gregg wanted that reality look if I'm not mistaken.

It's things like that that ruin future parties, but there's a large chance that this may make it much more exclusive and organized next time.

Anyways, why don't you take the cue from Topbucks and swallow the bullet for once like they have. Then this whole thing can disappear and fall into the archives.

VideoJ · 08-07-2003, 05:55 PM

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Originally posted by ChimpytheChatter

Why do you keep changing your story? In some posts you say they all had condoms, in others say you say they all had tests, in others you say the random dudes from the crowd were prescreened, then I read a couple of posts from guys who were NOT screened and happily jumped in and banged a hotty or two, no condom.

Mea culpa. At one point on another board I said everyone use condoms. I was wrong, I found out the couples didn't use condomes. However we supplied condoms to everyone and so far as I know everyone on the bed was talent and was using condums (except for the couples).

However as I also mentioned we were not supplied with any security and so people not part of the event could have gotten in. It is Topbucks and Quickbucks responsiblity to supply the security and they failed.

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Yes it's ultimately the performers responsibility. But in an organized situation as the producers of the project you need to A: treat people nicely, and there are many witnesses that said Jason Block was a pure asshole to the girls, and B: Protect the company you're working for by getting all documentation upfront, including tests.

Jason Block is not part of the PhotGregg team. He was only suppose to bring talent to the party and nothing more. I did not personally witness Jason being an asshole, but if any the talent complains to me about him, I will be sure to compensate them appropiatly. PhotoGregg and I have already paid out well over $1,000 to talent that was not paid or underpaid that night by Topbucks, they all have worked with us and we take care of them.
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Topbucks shined, the talent shined...the spotlight it on you.

Topbucks and Quickbucks didn't shine, it was their screws up that left us hanging. They left us with a shitty setup, no security and no control over the set. We produced what they asked for, but they didn't give us everything we need to do the job.

The talent went far beyound what was expected of them and were way underpaid by Topbucks, who was responsible for paying everyone. Some did not get paid at all, some got paid far less then that. We've been dealing with them ever since, trying to keep them happy.

Kanoealoha · 08-07-2003, 05:57 PM

The blame is everyone's to share so it appears...

but for those of you that think its 100% the talents responsibility to protect their bodies is a bit idiotic...

If I bent over in doggystyle and all of a sudden the guy pulls out and a new one puts in...and I didn't turn around to check...and ppl are letting random guys on the bed...well, how is that my fault? As far as the talent knows they signed up to bang X #of guys...
all tested...and they trusted the ppl that they signed those contracts with...
In all due respect, that is a complete disregard of the ppl that are the backbone of the industry

VideoJ · 08-07-2003, 05:58 PM

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Originally posted by Deepundercover

He's lying. I've heard from people there whose friends who were not talent and not tested were pulled in to have sex.

What a crock of shit, Luke. Come out and identify yourself and your sources. Show me a picture of someone who was in the shoot, not talent and having sex in front of the cameras.

12clicks · 08-07-2003, 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM

When I go into a VIP or All Access area, it is usually to get away from the shit that is going on and maybe to do a little business.

is it really a VIP area if they let Aaron in?

VideoJ · 08-07-2003, 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by Kanoealoha
The blame is everyone's to share so it appears...

I'll accept responsiblity for things under my control (Jason Block, for example). Others need to accept responsiblity for their part in this. And everyone needs to stop blowing it out of proportion.

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but for those of you that think its 100% the talents responsibility to protect their bodies is a bit idiotic...

If I bent over in doggystyle and all of a sudden the guy pulls out and a new one puts in...and I didn't turn around to check...and ppl are letting random guys on the bed...well, how is that my fault? As far as the talent knows they signed up to bang X #of guys...
all tested...and they trusted the ppl that they signed those contracts with...

If somone is sticking something into you, in the end it's your responsiblity to know what it is and who it is no matter what. If you trust anyone else with your personal safety, you're playing the fool. And I'm not trying to be insulting or nasty, I'm trying to give you good advice here. Depending on someone else to take care of your health, especially during an event like this, will only get you into trouble.

During the shoot I lost count of the number of times I was asked for condoms by talent (male, not female) who stopped what they were doing and waited to get protection.

Dugmor · 08-07-2003, 06:10 PM

I fucked her !

ChimpytheChatter · 08-07-2003, 06:13 PM

Condom? Tests exchanged?

SykkBoy · 08-07-2003, 06:15 PM

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Originally posted by ChimpytheChatter
Condom? Tests exchanged?

hahahah, someone missed out on THAT story ;-)))))

sexeducation · 08-07-2003, 06:17 PM

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Originally posted by VideoJ

If somone is sticking something into you, in the end it's your responsiblity to know what it is and who it is no matter what. If you trust anyone else with your personal safety, you're playing the fool. And I'm not trying to be insulting or nasty, I'm trying to give you good advice here. Depending on someone else to take care of your health, especially during an event like this, will only get you into trouble.

During the shoot I lost count of the number of times I was asked for condoms by talent (male, not female) who stopped what they were doing and waited to get protection.

okay ...
what were they "doing" that they "now" needed protection? You handed out condoms to countless times to guys who "stopped" what they were doing ... what were they doing?

VideoJ · 08-07-2003, 06:26 PM

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Originally posted by Dugmor

I fucked her !

She wasn't my talent so go for it

swedguy · 08-07-2003, 06:34 PM

I wish I fucked her!

Malezia · 08-07-2003, 06:45 PM

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Originally posted by swedguy

I wish I fucked her!

Will yopu be in Vegas swedguy ?

playa · 08-07-2003, 06:54 PM

I swear i'd see people that was in the crowd all of a sudden i see them getting their dick suck.

Was they talent or not i wasn't sure. But either way it was one of the most interesting shit i had ever seen in a long time

Mutt · 08-07-2003, 06:58 PM

that's the Florida porn production scene, the Wild West where anybody can show up for a porn shoot without any tests.
something very tragic is going to happen eventually as more porn is shot there.

VideoJ · 08-07-2003, 06:59 PM

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Originally posted by playa
I swear i'd see people that was in the crowd all of a sudden i see them getting their dick suck.

Was they talent or not i wasn't sure. But either way it was one of the most interesting shit i had ever seen in a long time

Not talent, just people having fun (is that permited any more?). I'm glad they enjoyed the show.

VideoJ · 08-07-2003, 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by Mutt
that's the Florida porn production scene, the Wild West where anybody can show up for a porn shoot without any tests.
something very tragic is going to happen eventually as more porn is shot there.

I can't comment on other producers but for us two things are true

1) All of our talent is tested. Period.
2) Unless they are a couple all of our talent uses condoms.

Anyone who claims otherwise need to offer proof or accept the legal consequences for libel and/or slander.

bigdog · 08-07-2003, 07:06 PM

Even if condoms were used, you can still get std's from blowjobs, and i know in this industry nobody uses condoms for blowjobs

FUCKuPAYme · 08-07-2003, 07:07 PM

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Originally posted by Dugmor

I fucked her !

Is she really your sister?

playa · 08-07-2003, 07:12 PM

don't get me wrong though,, i had a good time and wouldn't miss another chance to see it again

Mutt · 08-07-2003, 07:12 PM

std's are a problem in the porn business but the regular testing required by all the professional studios help catch them early. STD's left untreated can have serious health consquences on females.

amazing how few cases of HIV there have been in the hetero XXX video business - somebody deserves some real credit.

VideoJ · 08-07-2003, 07:26 PM

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Originally posted by Mutt
std's are a problem in the porn business but the regular testing required by all the professional studios help catch them early. STD's left untreated can have serious health consquences on females.

amazing how few cases of HIV there have been in the hetero XXX video business - somebody deserves some real credit.

A lot of the credit goes to the talent. They are aware of the risks and the smart ones take every step to prevent it. The studios can only do so much.

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 08-07-2003, 07:26 PM

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Originally posted by Malezia

Will yopu be in Vegas swedguy ?

are you making a list sister ?...just check it twice..

Hooper · 08-07-2003, 08:29 PM

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It is Topbucks and Quickbucks responsiblity to supply the security and they failed.

The only failure was in hiring you to do any of the work.

If I was a "reality content producer" i wouldnt be pissing with 2 of the 3 biggest reality series programs.

Be a man and own up to your fuckin responsiblity.

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Topbucks and Quickbucks didn't shine, it was their screws up that left us hanging.

You are the reason that people think pornographers are scum bags. We provided location, booze, and TONS of security. The deal was for a photoshoot bro. Not a four hour long gang bang.

You hired the talent. If you can't control the animals then you shouldnt be a zookeeper.

I'll be shocked if anybody ever hires you again for anything you pathetic worthless whiner.

Digipimp · 08-07-2003, 08:32 PM

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Originally posted by DeanCapture
Shouldn't the talent be responsible for themselves? Jeeeez!

There you go chief, I don't think anyone made anyone fuck or suck anyone that they didn't want to.

So if go fuck some chick without a condom can I blame the hotel or car maker or some other bullshit. Who cares.

This type of so called journalism sucks anyway, you get message board quotes and instant message logs and call it work.

Kimmykim · 08-07-2003, 08:39 PM

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Originally posted by VideoJ

We were responsable for the shoot only, not the VIP room. Anything that happened in the VIP room was Topbucks and Quickbucks responsiblity. Talk to Kevin and Hooper about that.

Interesting.

ChimpytheChatter · 08-07-2003, 09:46 PM

Quote: This type of so called journalism sucks anyway, you get message board quotes and instant message logs and call it work.

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I don't believe the story on Top Pro Talent was a cut and paste message board jobby. It was live accounts, interviews and follow ups.

Regardless, it gave you something to do the last few days.

08-07-2003, 04:54 PM	#1
Deepundercover Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 312	Top Bucks Claims Responsibility for Party Flaps Florida Sex-Shoot party during Internext was fun, but many claim there was organized unprotected sex with no condoms, mistreatment of talent and bad planning skills from coordinators hired to oversee the event. http://www.topprotalent.com/newsdetail.php?ID=310

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08-07-2003, 05:15 PM	#15
SykkBoy Jesus loves bacon Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sin City, Motherfucker Posts: 19,969	I've always felt TopBucks was a class organization and my opinion isn't changed. I'm glad to see them accept responsiblity, but I don't think they should be entirely to blame as they trusted another company to oversee the talent and that company obviously didn't do their job 100%. TopBucks threw a party I've heard great buzz about. Everyone attending had a great time. So, they did THEIR job, they showed webmasters a good time. Will be interesting to see if the company responsible for the hiring of the performers will show as much class. __________________ Support my new movie “The Second Coming”

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08-07-2003, 05:06 PM	#2
xxxdesign-net My hips don't lie Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 10,129	Claims Responsibility? what does that mean? Will they pay Juicylinks for the big wart he noticed on his dick this morning!???

08-07-2003, 05:07 PM	#3
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	I walked into the room -- saw the usual hoard of guys acting like they had never seen a pair of tits in their life -- and I left...

08-07-2003, 05:08 PM	#4
C_U_Next_Tuesday WW4L Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: over the river and through the woods Posts: 10,581	tests done yesterday dont mean shit when a "model" just got done blowing 5 guys or licking 6 pussies....without protection...

08-07-2003, 05:15 PM	#14
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	Say what you will but IMO Top Bucks and specifically Quentin handled this situation very professionally and they have learned from the experience. The fact that Q is not attempting to pass the buck in any way is enough to tell people what kind of a stand up person he is. Mistakes may have been made. Deal with them, learn from them, and move on. We all have businesses to run and money to make. to Top Bucks.

08-07-2003, 05:25 PM	#18
VideoJ Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: S. Florida Posts: 750	Give me a fucking break. We gave the talent over 200 condome that night. The only unprotected sex was with couples who were partners and didn't need condums to have sex with their partner. In retrospect, we should have asked them to use condums so as not to confuse people. The rest of the talent (both male and female) demanded condums before doing anything. They are professionals who are well aware of the risks. It's too bad the "reporter" is not a professional. The only people on the bed were hired talent. Due to poor planning by the Topbucks staff, talent had to enter the set through the crowd, which makes it appear that people came out of the crowd. The talent room was located in another part of ball room and the talent had to walk through the VIP room to get to the shoot room, a walk of about 100 feet, around a bar and through the crowd.. Finally, no security was supplied by Topbucks or the hotel for the actual shooing area. There were probably 30 security people supplied by the hotel but they were used elsewhere. We even had to fight to get the talent from the VIP area to the shooting area, becase Topbucks set up security between the two areas and the security wouldn't let the talent through. I had to walk the talent through the security myself, since I had the appropiate badge. __________________ Somebody stole my damn signture... Last edited by VideoJ; 08-07-2003 at 05:34 PM..

08-07-2003, 05:38 PM	#22
ChimpytheChatter Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hollywood Posts: 9	VideoJ said: We gave the talent over 200 condome that night. The only unprotected sex was with couples who were partners and didn't need condums to have sex with their partner. In retrospect, we should have asked them to use condums so as not to confuse people. The rest of the talent (both male and female) demanded condums before doing anything. They are professionals who are well aware of the risks. It's too bad the "reporter" is not a professional. The only people on the bed were hired talent. Due to poor planning by the Topbucks staff, talent had to enter the set through the crowd, which makes it appear that people came out of the crowd. --- Why do you keep changing your story? In some posts you say they all had condoms, in others say you say they all had tests, in others you say the random dudes from the crowd were prescreened, then I read a couple of posts from guys who were NOT screened and happily jumped in and banged a hotty or two, no condom. If your trying to cling to your gig with Top Bucks, maybe you should try sticking to one story. Yes it's ultimately the performers responsibility. But in an organized situation as the producers of the project you need to A: treat people nicely, and there are many witnesses that said Jason Block was a pure asshole to the girls, and B: Protect the company you're working for by getting all documentation upfront, including tests. The smartest thing you could've done is shut the fuck up. You're not a spokesperson for topbucks, your the fuckin' help. Keep your pie hole shut so you don't get them straight into a law suit. You also keep spending so much time blaming the poor dude at Top Pro Talent who only pointed out the things he was told, including comments from both sides. And it seems like with his fair reporting to both sides you got stuck in the middle of the whole thing as the asshole. Topbucks shined, the talent shined...the spotlight it on you. I highly recommend you crawl your ugly old tired ass into a shell and change careers. Who the fuck wants to hire you now? (In all this shit posted on every board, news service, etc...have you seen anyone speak positively on YOUR behalf? Ugh...no.)

08-07-2003, 05:49 PM	#24
shermo Guest Posts: n/a	Hats off to Topbucks for pulling off a party like this, taking some heat, and taking all the blame. VideoJ said: The only people on the bed were hired talent. Due to poor planning by the Topbucks staff, talent had to enter the set through the crowd, which makes it appear that people came out of the crowd. From what I've heard, your company was in charge of the photoshoot. Maybe YOU guys should have planned it better. I was pretty sure Photo Gregg wanted that reality look if I'm not mistaken. It's things like that that ruin future parties, but there's a large chance that this may make it much more exclusive and organized next time. Anyways, why don't you take the cue from Topbucks and swallow the bullet for once like they have. Then this whole thing can disappear and fall into the archives.

08-07-2003, 05:57 PM	#26
Kanoealoha Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Happy Valley Posts: 1,261	The blame is everyone's to share so it appears... but for those of you that think its 100% the talents responsibility to protect their bodies is a bit idiotic... If I bent over in doggystyle and all of a sudden the guy pulls out and a new one puts in...and I didn't turn around to check...and ppl are letting random guys on the bed...well, how is that my fault? As far as the talent knows they signed up to bang X #of guys... all tested...and they trusted the ppl that they signed those contracts with... In all due respect, that is a complete disregard of the ppl that are the backbone of the industry __________________ Strong Bad Rocks!

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ChimpytheChatter Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hollywood Posts: 9	Condom? Tests exchanged?

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swedguy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,981	I wish I fucked her!

08-07-2003, 06:54 PM	#37
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	I swear i'd see people that was in the crowd all of a sudden i see them getting their dick suck. Was they talent or not i wasn't sure. But either way it was one of the most interesting shit i had ever seen in a long time

08-07-2003, 06:58 PM	#38
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	that's the Florida porn production scene, the Wild West where anybody can show up for a porn shoot without any tests. something very tragic is going to happen eventually as more porn is shot there. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

08-07-2003, 07:06 PM	#41
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	Even if condoms were used, you can still get std's from blowjobs, and i know in this industry nobody uses condoms for blowjobs

08-07-2003, 07:12 PM	#43
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	don't get me wrong though,, i had a good time and wouldn't miss another chance to see it again

08-07-2003, 09:46 PM	#50
ChimpytheChatter Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hollywood Posts: 9	Quote: This type of so called journalism sucks anyway, you get message board quotes and instant message logs and call it work. --- I don't believe the story on Top Pro Talent was a cut and paste message board jobby. It was live accounts, interviews and follow ups. Regardless, it gave you something to do the last few days.