Scarring/Body Mutilation as SEX PLAY/ART

[MrPopup]

So the idea is you cut yourself for sexual pleasure?

And what about this permanent scarring artwork...where do you get THAT done?

[Gutterboy]

[SykkBoy]

Originally posted by MrPopup
So the idea is you cut yourself for sexual pleasure?

And what about this permanent scarring artwork...where do you get THAT done?

scarification, body modification and even branding can often be done at tattoo/piercing shops, but only after consulting with the artist, checking all references, reading up on the proper sanitation procedures, etc.

It can be very dangerous. You don't want to be some guy's guinnea pig....

[Gutterboy]

whheeeeeeeee!

[HEARTBREAKER]

on no....that's kinda sexy but brutal!!!

[SykkBoy]

Originally posted by Gutterboy


whheeeeeeeee!

I've been thinking about doing some suspension

A friend nearly has me talked into all that mind over matter seminar/meditation shit...could be fun.....

[Gutterboy]

Originally posted by SykkBoy2


I've been thinking about doing some suspension

A friend nearly has me talked into all that mind over matter seminar/meditation shit...could be fun.....

I would try it. Not to the extent of the guy in the pic.. maybe a back hook or two.

[SykkBoy]

Originally posted by Gutterboy


I would try it. Not to the extent of the guy in the pic.. maybe a back hook or two.

heheh, definitely seperates the men from the boys ;-)

[Dugmor]

[SykkBoy]

Originally posted by Dugmor

Dugmor, you have a pic for every occassion...hehehehehe

[Tala]

Hey Gutter, are you a member of BME? I just put some new pics up that I did with my girl. Just some needle play, she did a suspension back in July.

[Dugmor]

Originally posted by SykkBoy2


Dugmor, you have a pic for every occassion...hehehehehe

hehehe .............. The funny thing is I have so many pictures I really have to some day get them organized and work on my personal bio site.

This summer alone I shot over 40,000 pictures on my Canon 10D .

Not just porn but everything ! For example just today I shot the X Game street louge and skateboard competition .

I also shot one of the biggest graffiti conventions called Under Pressure !

[RRRED]

Originally posted by Gutterboy

That about sums it up. I'm sorry but people just don't do things like that unless they have serious mental issues. Bleh

[SykkBoy]

Originally posted by RRRED



That about sums it up. I'm sorry but people just don't do things like that unless they have serious mental issues. Bleh

we all have issues....their's are just more...open

hehehe

[Gutterboy]

Originally posted by Tala
Hey Gutter, are you a member of BME? I just put some new pics up that I did with my girl. Just some needle play, she did a suspension back in July.

Cool. I'm an avid reader, not really a member.

Had someone do needle work on one of my cheeks (mouth cheeks..lol) once at a party, but that wasn't terribly painful. Sure as hell looked like it though! my girlfriend at the time nearly fainted when she saw it.

The closest thing I've done to self infliction of pain other than that was eating habanero peppers.

[Tala]

Originally posted by Gutterboy


whheeeeeeeee!

That looks suspiciously liek some of Grazer's handiwork. Was that also on the ihung.org site?

[BlackCrayon]

Originally posted by RRRED



That about sums it up. I'm sorry but people just don't do things like that unless they have serious mental issues. Bleh

i gotta agree with RRRED, i haven't met one person into this kind of thing who doesn't have some kind of past history of abuse.

[SykkBoy]

Originally posted by BlackCrayon

i gotta agree with RRRED, i haven't met one person into this kind of thing who doesn't have some kind of past history of abuse.

Actually, I know quite a fwe people in the scene and most are just ordinary every day folks, bankers, doctors, lawyers, etc.

Most bloodletting/needleplay is a body control thing.

The Mayans used to use suspension a lot as did a lot of the other Indian tribes.

A lot of it is mind over matter and power of the will. It's not to necessarily destruct so much as to "purify" the strength of mind.

[Tala]

Originally posted by Gutterboy


Cool. I'm an avid reader, not really a member.

Had someone do needle work on one of my cheeks (mouth cheeks..lol) once at a party, but that wasn't terribly painful. Sure as hell looked like it though! my girlfriend at the time nearly fainted when she saw it.

The closest thing I've done to self infliction of pain other than that was eating habanero peppers.

Here ya go, one of the pics from the piercing play I did with my girl about two weeks ago. (She's the one bleeding.)

[Gutterboy]

Originally posted by SykkBoy2
Actually, I know quite a fwe people in the scene and most are just ordinary every day folks, bankers, doctors, lawyers, etc.

True, and some people are just masochists...

My first girlfriend had a great childhood, came from a upper middle class christian family.. no abuse or other problems. She used to make me twist her nipples until blood came out of the pores because it made her insanely horny. Later we moved on to labia clamps and shit. I was only 17.. lol. Freaked me out at first!

[Tala]

Originally posted by Gutterboy


True, and some people are just masochists...

My first girlfriend had a great childhood, came from a upper middle class christian family.. no abuse or other problems. She used to make me twist her nipples until blood came out of the pores because it made her insanely horny. Later we moved on to labia clamps and shit. I was only 17.. lol. Freaked me out at first!

[Gutterboy]

Originally posted by Tala
Here ya go, one of the pics from the piercing play I did with my girl about two weeks ago. (She's the one bleeding.)

Good stuff. If the girlfriend I talked about and I had known about needles when we were dating, we would have been into it. We both had pretty sheltered childhoods up 'till then, so we didn't really know how to plug in to the community, or even that a community existed.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally posted by Gutterboy


True, and some people are just masochists...

My first girlfriend had a great childhood, came from a upper middle class christian family.. no abuse or other problems. She used to make me twist her nipples until blood came out of the pores because it made her insanely horny. Later we moved on to labia clamps and shit. I was only 17.. lol. Freaked me out at first!

i suppose there are exceptions but generally ppl who find pain sexually pleasing somewhere in early development had associated violence with sex/love.

[SykkBoy]

Originally posted by BlackCrayon

i suppose there are exceptions but generally ppl who find pain sexually pleasing somewhere in early development had associated violence with sex/love.

A lot of them also see it as a release of control

[thatdykeliz]

Originally posted by BlackCrayon

i gotta agree with RRRED, i haven't met one person into this kind of thing who doesn't have some kind of past history of abuse.

There's a HUGE difference between knifeplay/bloodplay/cutting during some kind of sexual play and someone with abuse issues who cuts because it's a release for them. Please don't confuse the "Daddy Fucked Me" picture with the pic of the guy doing the suspension, or the needle play pic.

[Gutterboy]

Originally posted by BlackCrayon

i suppose there are exceptions but generally ppl who find pain sexually pleasing somewhere in early development had associated violence with sex/love.

Thats a hypothesis I'd like an answer to. Personally I haven't known enough true submissives/masochists, as opposed to people who just play at it part time, to have a sizable enough sample to draw conclusions from.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally posted by SykkBoy2


A lot of them also see it as a release of control

yeah there is the whole D/s side, i've read a lot of about and am especially interested in the psychology behind it all but there doesn't seem to be too much research about that available online.

[Tala]

Originally posted by Gutterboy


Good stuff. If the girlfriend I talked about and I had known about needles when we were dating, we would have been into it. We both had pretty sheltered childhoods up 'till then, so we didn't really know how to plug in to the community, or even that a community existed.

I was quite pleased with her this time around. She'd never done 100 before, and so we threw 100 into her breasts. I'm making out a nice pattern for the next set of needles. I'm thinking 200 for her back in star patterns.

[Tala]

Originally posted by thatdykeliz


There's a HUGE difference between knifeplay/bloodplay/cutting during some kind of sexual play and someone with abuse issues who cuts because it's a release for them. Please don't confuse the "Daddy Fucked Me" picture with the pic of the guy doing the suspension, or the needle play pic.

There is an incredible difference in the suspension stuff and the needle play and the carving on the body, yes. However, I have found that many people who enjoy one enjoy them all. (Not all, this is NOT an absolute here.)

[BlackCrayon]

Originally posted by Gutterboy


Thats a hypothesis I'd like an answer to. Personally I haven't known enough true submissives/masochists, as opposed to people who just play at it part time, to have a sizable enough sample to draw conclusions from.

this seemed to be the conclusion from a lot of articles that i read. however i've only known a few personally but most did have some kind of background and other siblings were usually into it too which suggested something. i don't believe in easy answers tho ie: they just like it because it feels good to them.

[Tala]

Originally posted by BlackCrayon

this seemed to be the conclusion from a lot of articles that i read. however i've only known a few personally but most did have some kind of background and other siblings were usually into it too which suggested something. i don't believe in easy answers tho ie: they just like it because it feels good to them.

I have no brothers old enough to be into it. My parents were not into it, I was raised by a grandmother.

I like it because it's different, fun, exciting, and it feels good.

[RRRED]

Getting a boner watching other people hurt or bleed... MENTAL PROBLEMS

[MrPopup]

Originally posted by Tala
I like it because it's different, fun, exciting, and it feels good.

Except when you hit an artery

[MrPopup]

Originally posted by RRRED
Getting a boner watching other people hurt or bleed... MENTAL PROBLEMS

What is the definition of consent between adults?

[BlackCrayon]

Originally posted by Tala
I have no brothers old enough to be into it. My parents were not into it, I was raised by a grandmother.

I like it because it's different, fun, exciting, and it feels good.

maybe so, there are always exceptions but are you the one that takes 100 needles in your skin? do you both do it to each other or do you have defined roles? i can't understand how needles into skin feels good. spanking biting, tieing up, all seems like harmless fun but the blood and needles stuff, i just don't get.

[Gutterboy]

Originally posted by RRRED
Getting a boner watching other people hurt or bleed... MENTAL PROBLEMS

lemme guess... Bush voter?

[Tala]

Originally posted by MrPopup


Except when you hit an artery

There are those of us with more common sense than that. Personally I wouldn't trust a top who would throw hooks and such (needles, cutting, etc..) who didn't know how deep the arterties lie and where they lie.

Consenting adults are persons over the legal age of consent (18-21, depending) and who are NOT under the influence of drugs or alcohol who have had whatever procedures explained and understand that there are certian dangers and have had those dangers explained as well so that they can make informed choices. I've had someone walk away for over a week to study the idea and learn more about it from others before coming back to me to have it done. No worries.

[MrPopup]

Originally posted by BlackCrayon

i can't understand how needles into skin feels good.

I'm sure you have a few tidbits stored up in that noggin that nobody else can understand.

these people just wear their sex fetishes on their sleeves.

[Gutterboy]

Originally posted by MrPopup


Except when you hit an artery

Its not easy to pierce an artery with a needle if the penetration is kept close to the skin.Unless you're doing it on the neck or joints you'd have to try real hard to hit a big one.

Same with hooks, only you've obviously gotta be much more careful about hygeine and the piercing process.

[Tala]

Originally posted by BlackCrayon

maybe so, there are always exceptions but are you the one that takes 100 needles in your skin? do you both do it to each other or do you have defined roles? i can't understand how needles into skin feels good. spanking biting, tieing up, all seems like harmless fun but the blood and needles stuff, i just don't get.

I will not do to someone else anything that I am not willing to do myself. I must know how it feels so that I better understand what's going on in my bottom's mind and nerve-endings.

We have defined roles. I am the top, and she is the bottom.

Hey, I'm not asking that you "get it", not everyone does. I just ask that those of us who enjoy what we enjoy aren't judged by those who don't enjoy the same thing. We don't care what goes on in your bedroom, don't pass judgement on what goes on in ours.

[Tala]

Originally posted by Gutterboy


lemme guess... Bush voter?

Dude, I almost spit pepsi on my monitor!

[Tala]

Originally posted by Gutterboy


Its not easy to pierce an artery with a needle if the penetration is kept close to the skin.Unless you're doing it on the neck or joints you'd have to try real hard to hit a big one.

Same with hooks, only you've obviously gotta be much more careful about hygeine and the piercing process.

Which is why I don't throw hooks. I leave that sort of stuff to Grazer.

[SykkBoy]

Originally posted by BlackCrayon

yeah there is the whole D/s side, i've read a lot of about and am especially interested in the psychology behind it all but there doesn't seem to be too much research about that available online.

Right, it can be hard to do proper research as a lot of people that are into the scene don't like to talk about it. A lot are in positions of power and it could affect their job/families/livelihoods

I can only speak for people that I know that are into the scene, I can't speak for everyone.

[SykkBoy]

Originally posted by Gutterboy


Its not easy to pierce an artery with a needle if the penetration is kept close to the skin.Unless you're doing it on the neck or joints you'd have to try real hard to hit a big one.

Same with hooks, only you've obviously gotta be much more careful about hygeine and the piercing process.

definitely, hygeine is a huge factor. Also, with mutual bloodplay, there is the fear of HIV, hepatitus, etc.

It's all about trust. You have to trust the other person and that's where a lot of the "thrill" of bloodplay, blooddrinking, peirce play, etc. come in. That ultimate trust and the bringing of strong emotions to the surface. It's hard to put into words.

[fiveyes]

This is a local performance group I've covered a few times,
<CENTER><BIG><B>The Atone Pain Tribe</B></BIG>

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[MrPopup]

Funny...theres really not much difference in theory to what the people are doing in these pics, compared to what goes on at PUPPETRY OF THE PENIS...which is a national touring act playing to great critical accord.

Besides the bloodletting anyway.

The Ancient Art of Genital Origami

http://www.puppetryofthepenis.com

[Tala]

Originally posted by SykkBoy2


definitely, hygeine is a huge factor. Also, with mutual bloodplay, there is the fear of HIV, hepatitus, etc.

It's all about trust. You have to trust the other person and that's where a lot of the "thrill" of bloodplay, blooddrinking, peirce play, etc. come in. That ultimate trust and the bringing of strong emotions to the surface. It's hard to put into words.

Well said.

[Tala]

Originally posted by fiveyes
This is a local performance group I've covered a few times,
<CENTER><BIG><B>The Atone Pain Tribe</B></BIG>

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Nice stuff fiver.

[fiveyes]

Originally posted by Tala
Nice stuff fiver.

Thanks! Just wait until I finish my robotic camera boom though so I can get those shots from above. Have it all but the remote pan/tilt head, which I'm saving up for.

[Tala]

You can come and film some of my playdates.