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Old 08-10-2003, 07:58 PM   #1
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What the fuck are with our churchs?

this has nothing to do with the industry but more of our country. we have a gay bishop now? i mean what could be more of a direct direction from the bible. i don't have ANY thing wrong with homosexuality but this is the church. the man who is suppose to be helping deliver Gods message to people is gay? is the church really a business that can't afford to take a lawsuit? i'm not understanind how this was even an option on the table for this chuch! the most fuck up part of the entire situation is that our country was built on a strong christian background, so where does this leave us? i'd love to hear from anyone, especially people who are looking at the USA and laughing.
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Old 08-10-2003, 08:12 PM   #2
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The bible is a nice fairy tale so gay Bishops are totally in line.
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Yeah yeah.. they said exactly the same bullshit when they started ordaining women.
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Religion as we've known it is in a sad state of affairs. And maybe that's a good thing in the long run. I never cared for their bullshit anyway.
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Yeah yeah.. they said exactly the same bullshit when they started ordaining women.
so after we are still on a downward slide, ok i was just checking.
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i find it funny that so many so called 'christians' are quick to point out the scripture in the bible that says being gay is an abomination, then go home and commit adultery with their girlfriends/boyfriends. now personally i see nothing wrong with being gay or having sex outside of marriage but a sin is a sin and these ppl should recognize before they start throwing stones.

not to mention that it seems perfectly ok if a priest molests a child. he is not prosecuted, he is not kicked out of the church. they simply transfer him to another community, so he can do more damage. in my opinion a gay bishop is the least of their worries. religion is full of so many hypocricies anyhow...
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Bow down for the special intrest groups.. noones allowed to think for themselves or have an opinion, if you do, you get sued. Soon burglars will be suing homeowners for "excessive security", They can already sue you if they hurt themselves while breaking into your fucking house. This country's gone to shit. I think I'll go find a black chick that only goes with black gays, ask her out, get shot the fuck down, and sue her for discrimination on some racial law. Thats bullshit that she should make a descision like that on her own, she's been instructed that she loves and accepts everyone, theres no room in this country for having your own opinion on much of anything anymore.

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so after we are still on a downward slide, ok i was just checking.
Yes

And I will do everything in my power to make sure the slide doesn't end until the Episcopal Church is blessing inter-species civil unions.
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i find it funny that so many so called 'christians' are quick to point out the scripture in the bible that says being gay is an abomination, then go home and commit adultery with their girlfriends/boyfriends. now personally i see nothing wrong with being gay or having sex outside of marriage but a sin is a sin and these ppl should recognize before they start throwing stones.

not to mention that it seems perfectly ok if a priest molests a child. he is not prosecuted, he is not kicked out of the church. they simply transfer him to another community, so he can do more damage. in my opinion a gay bishop is the least of their worries. religion is full of so many hypocricies anyhow...
those so called christians are being taught and instructed by homosexuals that seem to be ready to come out after they are tired of molesting young boys, what do you expect?
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those so called christians are being taught and instructed by homosexuals that seem to be ready to come out after they are tired of molesting young boys, what do you expect?
lol, im just pointing out that ppl like to pick and choose things from the bible to justify their bigotry and their own lifestyle. if you take the bible very literally, most christians are going to hell. what percentage of christians really wait until marriage to have sex?
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lol, im just pointing out that ppl like to pick and choose things from the bible to justify their bigotry. if you take the bible very literally, most christians are going to hell. what percentage of christians really wait until marriage to have sex?

in the bible it says that most christians are going to hell if memory serves me correctly.
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in the bible it says that most christians are going to hell if memory serves me correctly.
heh really? i've never read it in its entirety. tho i think for the most part, ppl would be better off without organized religion.
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Yeah, catholics are mest up, but when u think about it, all religions are mest up. They are just religious institutions set up for the week minded to be brain washed and have their pockets drain on a weekly basis, while the pastors, preachers, religious leaders have beautiful homes, driving Mercedes, and living life up!!
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Yeah, catholics are mest up, but when u think about it, all religions are mest up. They are just religious institutions set up for the week minded to be brain washed and have their pockets drain on a weekly basis, while the pastors, preachers, religious leaders have beautiful homes, driving Mercedes, and living life up!!

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i like asking this questions to 'christians'.

Only 'christians' are going to heaven according to y'all novel,so that means 'jews' God chosen ppl is not,if they're the 'chosen' ppl why they don't go to heaven.....

i nver can get a str8 answers
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churchs/religions are only started for the money, almost every pastor down here i've talked to/heard of is rolling in 6 figures easily
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It all only proves that the Church is realising that the bible needs some revisions again, the things it preaches are not practical for a civilised society as a matter of fact it is quite barbaric.

A new religeon is needed, one that puts faith on humanity, not a god.
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It was the Episcopal Church that voted ina Gay Bishop!
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Ok 69pornlinks here is an interesting point for you Christianity is not a religion it's a cult LOL

Jesus wasn't a Christian either, He was a Jew. When the Samarian woman (I think it was Samarian) at the well asked if she could speak to him he said yes and went on to say that he has only come for the Jews.

Paul who was originally named Saul murdered Jesus's followers wherever he could find them. Then one day Saul was strolling along and God spoke to him and asked "Saul why do you persecute me?" and then struck him blind.

After that shock Saul became Paul and having never met Jesus nor was he part of the original 12 disciples sat on a roof smoking some good shit because he saw a sheet come down from heaven with all unclean animals in it and to him this was a message from on high that everyone was now entitled to become a "Christian"

Remember that the New Testament says that 2 or more is a witness. Not one. So All alone on his roof he sees this vision and he was able to persuade the original 12 disciples to dump the teachings of Jesus and take on his smoke filled vision and eureka Christianity is born

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this has nothing to do with the industry but more of our country. we have a gay bishop now? i mean what could be more of a direct direction from the bible. i don't have ANY thing wrong with homosexuality but this is the church. the man who is suppose to be helping deliver Gods message to people is gay? is the church really a business that can't afford to take a lawsuit? i'm not understanind how this was even an option on the table for this chuch! the most fuck up part of the entire situation is that our country was built on a strong christian background, so where does this leave us? i'd love to hear from anyone, especially people who are looking at the USA and laughing.
It's kind of funny. Churches are an adaptive being just like any other species, ESPECIALLY the catholic church. Throughout time they do what they have to in order to survive.. Example, when the catholic church wanted to take over spanish culture they were blocked by the idol-worshipping ways their religions followed.. What did they do? They adapted.. They made the virgin mother a bigger focalpoint of their religious practices in order to allow the engulfing of these so-called Mary cults..

In the bible, (and I'm not a holy roller, I'm a proud athiest), sometime after romans 1:31/1:32 they also go on to speak against eating beef, allowing women in churches in any capacity, allowing women to do anything but be mothers, LOANING MONEY FOR INTEREST .. these were all sins .. these are all things that have since been adjusted in order to keep power.

Churches aren't about religion, they're about power.
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Jesus wasn't a Christian either, He was a Jew. When the Samarian woman (I think it was Samarian) at the well asked if she could speak to him he said yes and went on to say that he has only come for the Jews.
true... if you like to believe that storybook you like to call a bible.
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i don't want to go to a heaven where gay people and women aren't considered decent enough to stand up and talk about the rules under which they are being ruled.

Oh and love it when all homosexuals are compared to child abusers.
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Remember that Genesis song that was banned in the USA ?
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Do you see the face on the TV screen
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On the cover of the magazine
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You won't even have to leave your house
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explicite where was it banned? I lived in the States when it came out and I saw the video many times.
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You think so?

Welp, I am a catholic, National Catholic faith actually and walked away from the Roman catholic church. If you can get past the struggles in our dimension and look at the bigger picture, "There should be no throw child of christ", you can accept the happenings of late.

PS_-The Bishop is Episcopalian, not Catholic.
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The bible has been interpreted many times, and who to say some of the words were placed with a meaning other than intended.
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this has nothing to do with the industry but more of our country. we have a gay bishop now? i mean what could be more of a direct direction from the bible. i don't have ANY thing wrong with homosexuality but this is the church. the man who is suppose to be helping deliver Gods message to people is gay? is the church really a business that can't afford to take a lawsuit? i'm not understanind how this was even an option on the table for this chuch! the most fuck up part of the entire situation is that our country was built on a strong christian background, so where does this leave us? i'd love to hear from anyone, especially people who are looking at the USA and laughing.
An ironic view of the bible from you considering it's detailed directions on how a man should treat and maintain one's slaves.

1 Tim. 6:1-2; ?Let slaves regard their masters as worthy of all honor."

I agree, you either take "direct direction from the bible", or you don't. Which is of course why I don't.
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Of course...Render all unto Caesar that is Caesar's etc...

The New Testament is powerful mind control for the weak to subvert justice on earth for peace in heaven.

Needless to say...I like the old testament better. Multiple wives, slaves, killing and rampaging.



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An ironic view of the bible from you considering it's detailed directions on how a man should treat and maintain one's slaves.

1 Tim. 6:1-2; Let slaves regard their masters as worthy of all honor."

I agree, you either take "direct direction from the bible", or you don't. Which is of course why I don't.
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Old 08-11-2003, 10:01 AM   #44
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Religion is nothing more than the most effective way to control a mass populace.

Right now, though, all churches are at a croassroads. One one hand, they desperately want to stick to what they've been teaching for centuries (homosexuality is a sin). On the other hand, they see membership in the church dwindling every day.

They want to stick to their guns, but they also know that they have to bow to political correctness in order to keep the sheep they have, and to coax more into the herd.

People are getting more and more fed up with religion in general, which is why we're seeing more and more athiests and agnostics.
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Old 08-11-2003, 10:29 AM   #46
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oh yea... religion is a sham.
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