Acacia - post on stock message board.... - GoFuckYourself.com

goBigtime · 08-08-2003, 12:23 AM

http://finance.messages.yahoo.com/bb...0497&mid=19742

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Acacia patent is very much valid. I wish it was not, I am being sued myself.

The adult industry top 50 companies make 90% of the money and sales. The rest of the 1200 or whatever companies are worthless for Acacia to sue but they did to win easy settlements and set precident.

The adult industry is the biggest money making industry on the internet, HANDS DOWN! Dont fool yourself thinging anything other. And all the companies sales are growing every year.

I know companies are settling as we speak, large companies and small companies. Its happening!

Yes to fully get the most of the patents some companies will fight for 2-3 years... But if the patent is being validated all over the place and 100's of companies are settling, those fighting the litigation will soon end up loosing and then end up paying for back years.

I'll hold my shares, I know companies are settling and this is PURE PROFIT earnings for Acacia every year from here on in.

No sales last Quarter, well wait till Q3 then Q4 you wanna see GROWTH!

I am definately going to purchase more shares, I am in the red my average is over $2.00 will try to get the bottom here soon.

Good Luck to all

Gee, I wonder who posted that bs.

quiet · 08-08-2003, 12:25 AM

riiight.

Ketadream · 08-08-2003, 12:25 AM

Wonder what happens tomorow when I release the solution to the Acacia solution for the adult world...

And I say FUCK YOU TO ACACIA and there patent...

TDF · 08-08-2003, 12:27 AM

the funny thing is,he posts here on GFY

goBigtime · 08-08-2003, 12:32 AM

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Originally posted by Ketadream
Wonder what happens tomorow when I release the solution to the Acacia solution for the adult world...

And I say FUCK YOU TO ACACIA and there pattent...

their patent. Nm this is GFY, spelling doesn't count.

But anyway, Huh?

The only solid solution I know of is to invalidate the patent through prior art.

These guys aren't going to just go away when people come up with crazy macgyverish ways to circumvent it. They'll just sue ya harder. I mean why not, they have legal staff on the payroll & odds are you'll fold under pressure.

A victory for the IMPA or the using the methods fiveyes mentioned last night are the only ways I see to possiblymake them "go away". (since odds are they will just appeal if the patent is invalidated - right?)

Ketadream · 08-08-2003, 12:36 AM

We shall see, I would not make such bold claims if my legal team has not only approved it but blessed it.

My solution is not covered in their patent...their patent is very clear on what it covers. Our solution does not infringe on the patent.

We are also donating a portion of our sales for this solution to the IMPA so either way its win win for the adult world.

But I should shut up now...I've allready said to much

goBigtime · 08-08-2003, 12:41 AM

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Originally posted by Ketadream
We shall see, I would not make such bold claims if my legal team has not only approved it but blessed it.

My solution is not covered in their patent...their patent is very clear on what it covers. Our solution does not infringe on the patent.

We are also donating a portion of our sales for this solution to the IMPA so either way its win win for the adult world.

But I should shut up now...I've allready said to much

Sounds good... looking forward to seeing it

Gemini · 08-08-2003, 12:43 AM

That guy is a joke. lol Obviously he bought high and is trying to drive the price back up to dump it. Read all of his posts... all with that in mind. lmao He's an idiot and a small timer on top of that.

Hope you lose the farm jerk!! I know of some tall buildings if you need a ledge.

goBigtime · 08-08-2003, 12:44 AM

Here is a great followup though:

http://finance.messages.yahoo.com/bb...0497&mid=19746

This about sums it up....

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Many of the adult companies will not settle no matter what the deal and will fight until an appellate decision tells them otherwise. Many will take their business offshore to jurisdictions beyond acacias reach. Even those that settle will likely only do so if there is a sweetheart deal on the table AND they will also likely still give LOTS of money to the IMPA and pump up the defense fund with that law firm Fish etal. Acacia is in for a real dog fight here and the truth of the matter is that there is not alot of money here that would justify it.

goBigtime · 08-08-2003, 12:48 AM

oh BTW.... for anyone who went to Internext...

Did anyone see the Acacia reps/booth there? What was that like?

I imagine it was very rowdy or very quiet.

fiveyes · 08-08-2003, 12:59 AM

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Originally posted by toodamnfli
the funny thing is,he posts here on GFY

You noticed the same thigs I did in that message! I just love people that are consistent...

quiet · 08-08-2003, 01:11 AM

well, who the fuck do you think it is?

TDF · 08-08-2003, 01:13 AM

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Originally posted by fiveyes

You noticed the same thigs I did in that message! I just love people that are consistent...

so very predictable it hurts

Mr.Fiction · 08-08-2003, 01:18 AM

That post is funny because the person is probably just trying to get the price back up so he can dump it.

bhutocracy · 08-08-2003, 01:30 AM

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Originally posted by quiet
well, who the fuck do you think it is?

Mr.Fiction · 08-13-2003, 08:21 PM

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Originally posted by Ketadream
We shall see, I would not make such bold claims if my legal team has not only approved it but blessed it.

My solution is not covered in their patent...their patent is very clear on what it covers. Our solution does not infringe on the patent.

We are also donating a portion of our sales for this solution to the IMPA so either way its win win for the adult world.

But I should shut up now...I've allready said to much

It's been a few days. Was this just a joke or do you really have an idea?

sexeducation · 08-13-2003, 10:09 PM

...
okay he owns shares and is continuing to plug Acacia ...
"basically pump and dump" ...
lot's of credibility there ... ; )

LiveDose · 08-13-2003, 10:18 PM

berman loves the cock.

Chris · 08-13-2003, 10:19 PM

acacia > your life

Theo · 08-13-2003, 10:25 PM

"The adult industry is the biggest money making industry on the internet"

lol yeah right clueless

FightThisPatent · 08-14-2003, 07:45 AM

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Originally posted by Ketadream

My solution is not covered in their patent...their patent is very clear on what it covers. Our solution does not infringe on the patent.

A patent is supposed to be 100% clear on what it covers, the problem is when a patent holder takes a narrowly defined patent, and tries to apply it in a broader sense.

There is a multitude of patents filed for streaming audio and video and the transfer of digital audio/video. A good majority of those are specific to the technologies that the inventor created.

My website and my point of view is not saying that patents are bad, on the contrary, patents are good for what they were intended, to protect inventors right to what they created, and to share that knowledge with others. Patents are now being used to just sue people for "business methods" that means they don't have to actually create anything.

Acacia and other companies like SightSound patent are troubling because they are broad in what they are claiming.

We need to shoot down Acacia's patent claim by finding prior art pre-1991.

If you think your method doesn't violate their patent, or the hundreds of other ones out there, then you need to spend more time with you IP/patent attorney.

I think some old timers would remember streaming audio when they tied a rope between two cups... that's not patented.. and that method would be safe from Acacia's and all others patents.

I applaud your intentions of donating % of the proceeds from the sale of your audio/video distribution system, but besides being able to fight off any patent claims like Acacia, i guess that would mean people have to buy your solution first....

Paul Markham · 08-14-2003, 08:12 AM

The choice is very simple.

On one hand you have a bunch of lawyers who think we are low hanging friut ready to be picked.

On the other hand you have companies big and small that fight every day to stay in business.

Give in to Acacia you will find they have another patent that they want us to pay a royalty on, or maybe another bunch of lawyers will find another patent to come after us with.

Also you are also assuming that when Acacia start mopping us up they will be happy with 2%, they started at 5% I believe, what is to stop them asking for 10% or joining with the biggest players and forcing the rest out of the market?

Does it say in the license that it will be 2% for ever or just year by year?

They picked on us because they didn't think we had the stomach for a fight, if this patent was worth diddly squat Acacias shares would not be going through the floor.

American justice is decided very often on the amount of money you have. Acacia planned that we would roll over with the Domino effect. They actually have filed an action because we stood up to them. They are frightened now that whether they are right or wrong we can out spend them.

01SCdZ06 · 08-14-2003, 08:19 AM

I am definately going to purchase more shares, I am in the red my average is over $2.00 will try to get the bottom here soon.
__________________________________________________

He bought in when they were peaking and now hes getting nervous and trying to convince himself that his investment was a wise choice. Now stuck in limbo at 1.65-1.68

poor baby

08-08-2003, 12:25 AM	#2
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	riiight. __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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08-08-2003, 12:36 AM	#6
Ketadream Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Austin Posts: 1,373	We shall see, I would not make such bold claims if my legal team has not only approved it but blessed it. My solution is not covered in their patent...their patent is very clear on what it covers. Our solution does not infringe on the patent. We are also donating a portion of our sales for this solution to the IMPA so either way its win win for the adult world. But I should shut up now...I've allready said to much __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

08-08-2003, 12:43 AM	#8
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	That guy is a joke. lol Obviously he bought high and is trying to drive the price back up to dump it. Read all of his posts... all with that in mind. lmao He's an idiot and a small timer on top of that. Hope you lose the farm jerk!! I know of some tall buildings if you need a ledge. __________________ <center><a target="_blank" href="http://dev.datedollars.com/index.php?s=signup&aid=535&cfg=aac"><img border="0" src="http://216.130.172.224/gfy/gsig.gif" width="490" height="100"></a><br><a href="http://dev.datedollars.com/index.php?s=signup&aid=535&cfg=aac" target="_blank"><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#FF99FF"> Buy me away from Slavedriver Smokey!<br>It's May Sig Sweeps!<font></b></center>

08-08-2003, 12:48 AM	#10
goBigtime Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,761	oh BTW.... for anyone who went to Internext... Did anyone see the Acacia reps/booth there? What was that like? I imagine it was very rowdy or very quiet.

08-08-2003, 01:11 AM	#12
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	well, who the fuck do you think it is? __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP

08-08-2003, 01:18 AM	#14
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08-13-2003, 10:09 PM	#17
sexeducation So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Calgary - Alberta - Canada Posts: 7,315	... okay he owns shares and is continuing to plug Acacia ... "basically pump and dump" ... lot's of credibility there ... ; )

08-13-2003, 10:18 PM	#18
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08-13-2003, 10:19 PM	#19
Chris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: icq: 71462500 Skype: Jupzchris Posts: 27,880	acacia > your life __________________ [email protected]

08-13-2003, 10:25 PM	#20
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	"The adult industry is the biggest money making industry on the internet" lol yeah right clueless

08-14-2003, 08:12 AM	#22
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	The choice is very simple. On one hand you have a bunch of lawyers who think we are low hanging friut ready to be picked. On the other hand you have companies big and small that fight every day to stay in business. Give in to Acacia you will find they have another patent that they want us to pay a royalty on, or maybe another bunch of lawyers will find another patent to come after us with. Also you are also assuming that when Acacia start mopping us up they will be happy with 2%, they started at 5% I believe, what is to stop them asking for 10% or joining with the biggest players and forcing the rest out of the market? Does it say in the license that it will be 2% for ever or just year by year? They picked on us because they didn't think we had the stomach for a fight, if this patent was worth diddly squat Acacias shares would not be going through the floor. American justice is decided very often on the amount of money you have. Acacia planned that we would roll over with the Domino effect. They actually have filed an action because we stood up to them. They are frightened now that whether they are right or wrong we can out spend them. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

08-14-2003, 08:19 AM	#23
01SCdZ06 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: United States Posts: 55	I am definately going to purchase more shares, I am in the red my average is over $2.00 will try to get the bottom here soon. __________________________________________________ He bought in when they were peaking and now hes getting nervous and trying to convince himself that his investment was a wise choice. Now stuck in limbo at 1.65-1.68 poor baby