Top Bucks Claims Responsibility for Party Flaps - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

VideoJ · 08-07-2003, 09:48 PM

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Originally posted by Hooper
Be a man and own up to your fuckin responsiblity.

As soon as you and Topbucks accept your responsiblity, instead of trying to push it off on us. We were given a fucked up setup to start with and made the best of it we could.

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The deal was for a photoshoot bro. Not a four hour long gang bang.

The deal was to deliver a better show then Topbucks had in Vegas. We delivered. If you're not happy with it, bitch at Topbucks, not us. We delivered what we were asked to, to the best of our abilities. If you expected something different maybe you should have talked to us before the show.

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I'll be shocked if anybody ever hires you again for anything you pathetic worthless whiner. [/B]

Then be shocked. We have at least three new contracts for reality sites from people who were at the party. That's not counting all the people who asked for our contact info during and after the party. So I'm whining all the way to bank.

Digipimp · 08-07-2003, 09:50 PM

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Originally posted by ChimpytheChatter
Quote: This type of so called journalism sucks anyway, you get message board quotes and instant message logs and call it work.

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I don't believe the story on Top Pro Talent was a cut and paste message board jobby. It was live accounts, interviews and follow ups.

Regardless, it gave you something to do the last few days.

I guess you didn't read it, it clearly says he talked to Quentin via instant message and then the quotes at the bottom say so and so from gofuckyourself.com says. So read it again, afterall nearly all of his shitty stories are messageboard and instant message bullshit.

BradShaw · 08-07-2003, 09:53 PM

Anyone who needs reality content, I can fire back up my studio in Vancouver. At one point we were pumping out 50 scenes a month.

ex.

milfsearch.com
and all reality sites at siccash.com

ChimpytheChatter · 08-07-2003, 10:15 PM

Quote: I guess you didn't read it, it clearly says he talked to Quentin via instant message and then the quotes at the bottom say so and so from gofuckyourself.com says. So read it again, afterall nearly all of his shitty stories are messageboard and instant message bullshit.

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I read it. But I was refering to all the stories on this subject they wrote, not their latest post. Their latest post, while the interview was done thru a messenger service, was still informative and fair reporting. The reader posts under the message don't have anything to do with that site, that's just what people wrote who read the story.

If the readers pulled posts off this board and posted them there, who cares. A lot of people have been posting here and there over the last couple of days. I read that site daily and it's always way ahead of AVN and all the other shitty news sites in the industry...not to mention they're the company that broke this story the day it happened...ya know the one four days later you're still talking about.

Are you mad at the news agency who broke the Kobe story? Would you be pissed if they got an exclusive interview with the accuser, even if the only way they got it was by instant messenger? Geez.

Carrie · 08-07-2003, 11:36 PM

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Originally posted by VideoJ
If somone is sticking something into you, in the end it's your responsiblity to know what it is and who it is no matter what. If you trust anyone else with your personal safety, you're playing the fool. And I'm not trying to be insulting or nasty, I'm trying to give you good advice here. Depending on someone else to take care of your health, especially during an event like this, will only get you into trouble.

Oh fucking bullshit.
You deserve to have ALL of your models refuse to work with you and spread the word so that you never have another model again unless you change states.

It's their responsibility to know what it is and who it is?
How could they do that? Did you get all of the talent together beforehand and introduce them all to each other? Did you introduce *every* model to *every* other model that would be, or might be, or was considering being part of the shoot?
No?
Then fuck your "it's their responsibility".

You are telling these models you're going to provide a safe environment for them to work.
That is YOUR responsibility.

You don't see a manufacturing plant saying that it's the workers' responsibility to make sure they're safe around the heavy equipment... it's the fucking employer's responsibility. And in this case, YOU are the employer.

Your story changes so much you've forgotten which lies you've told. And you're not keeping up with the lies everyone else is telling too.
So far I've heard one - ONE story from the different models... no tests were asked for.

But the number of different stories I've heard from you guys has climbed into double digits.

Eric · 08-07-2003, 11:39 PM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net

well actually, when you are hired for something, in front of alot of people... the pressure is on you and not everyone will have the guts to say No, im not doing this

I am sorry but I have to disagree. You are talking about life and death here. You don't know who has AIDS or anything like that. Also I made it 29 years with out doing a single drug. Said no plenty of times. It is just that easy. So what if the fucking people there are disappointed. Then that is on the photographer to make sure shit is taken care of, proper documents on testing or condoms available.

So the bullshit about pressure being on, is just that, bullshit.

Why · 08-08-2003, 01:01 AM

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Originally posted by Malezia

Will yopu be in Vegas swedguy ?

if he isnt, i WILL be and ill give you a turn

your fucking gorgeous.

Why · 08-08-2003, 01:03 AM

on a more serious note, photgregg really needs to grow a spine and stop pointing fingers. Q took a stand up role and accepted responsibilty on TopBucks behalf, gregg is just pointing shit at others. IF you needed something from TopBucks or Quickbuck for that matter i know them both, im sure they would not have refused anything they could have done to help to make thier party as successful as possible.

swedguy · 08-08-2003, 02:26 AM

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Originally posted by Malezia

Will yopu be in Vegas swedguy ?

I'm considering it

PhotoGreggXXX · 08-08-2003, 03:13 AM

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Originally posted by Why
on a more serious note, photgregg really needs to grow a spine and stop pointing fingers. Q took a stand up role and accepted responsibilty on TopBucks behalf, gregg is just pointing shit at others. IF you needed something from TopBucks or Quickbuck for that matter i know them both, im sure they would not have refused anything they could have done to help to make thier party as successful as possible.

Have to agree with you "why". Just woke up and saw this thread started last night.

Our job was to provide a wild live sex photo shoot. We did that.

We've since talked to all the talent that was in the show and gave the best performers bonuses for a job well done. All of them that were in the show talked about how much fun it was.

LisaR from TopBucks was in the shoot area with us. During and immediately after the show we were told everything was great

Sure, we could have done things better...anything of this size and complexity could have improvements. We learned that a dressing room for talent closer to the shoot area would be better. We learned that security at the shoot area would have been better. We learned that couples in the show should have used condoms.

I think the only finger pointing should go to TopBucks for throwing one hell-uv-a party, and putting a live show together that 100's of people crowded around to see...and couldn't pull themselves away from until it was over. That finger pointing should be a thumbs up for a great job.

I take full responsibility for any misconceptions anyone has that was or wasn't at the show. I take full responsibility for the talent we hired for the show. I have to share responsibility with TopBucks for the 100's of people that loved the show and expressed that it was "awesome".

sexeducation · 08-08-2003, 04:47 AM

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Originally posted by Digipimp

There you go chief, I don't think anyone made anyone fuck or suck anyone that they didn't want to.

That is not necessarily true.
As shown by the quote in this very thread.
And which appears to be just common sense.

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Originally posted by Kanoealoha
If I bent over in doggystyle and all of a sudden the guy pulls out and a new one puts in...and I didn't turn around to check...and ppl are letting random guys on the bed...well, how is that my fault? As far as the talent knows they signed up to bang X #of guys...
all tested...and they trusted the ppl that they signed those contracts with...
In all due respect, that is a complete disregard of the ppl that are the backbone of the industry

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Orginally posted by Digipimp
So if go fuck some chick without a condom can I blame the hotel or car maker or some other bullshit. Who cares.

When you enter into any type of contract for "work" there is a reasonable amount of safety the "employer" must provide. It appears to the average reader that - safety was not properly handled.

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Originally posted by Digipimp
This type of so called journalism sucks anyway, you get message board quotes and instant message logs and call it work.

I read the article and it seems to me to be slanted in favour of TopBucks. In fact, the "journalist" even offers Quentin of TopBucks.com advice in is his closing paragraph.

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http://www.topprotalent.com/newsdetail.php?ID=310
TPT: You may want to let Photo Gregg and Jason Block know that when they are hired under the flag of Top Bucks, they are representing Top Bucks. That said, they need to consult Top Bucks before replying in the press to any allegations that could directly affect your company. They kind of made you guys look bad.

With all the "finger pointing" and "slanted reporting" to the outsider it sounds like "inappropriate incidents" did occur. However, "sounds like" and reality are two different things.

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Originally posted by VideoJ
It's too bad the "reporter" is not a professional.

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Originally posted by VideoJ
Show me a picture of someone who was in the shoot, not talent and having sex in front of the cameras.

Yep - where's the proof.

You can not quote "emotions of the minute" from message boards and chat - and base "allegations of inappropriateness" on that. Where's the proof. If the reporter was there - where is the photo?

In summary - "disaster" control time.
This thread angers the "talent" because it shows a lack of respect.

Dad@

ChimpytheChatter · 08-08-2003, 08:58 AM

Where's the proof?

Do you really need a photo if the reporter witnessed it and had the accounts of multiple parties attending as well, people involved in the production?

Where's the photo of Kobe having sex with the accuser?

Please.

D-Money · 08-08-2003, 09:13 AM

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Originally posted by Eric_aka_RedEyes

I am sorry but I have to disagree. You are talking about life and death here. You don't know who has AIDS or anything like that. Also I made it 29 years with out doing a single drug. Said no plenty of times. It is just that easy. So what if the fucking people there are disappointed. Then that is on the photographer to make sure shit is taken care of, proper documents on testing or condoms available.

So the bullshit about pressure being on, is just that, bullshit.

Preach brotha , preach!

29 years without a single drug, impressive! How about alcohol?

Red eyes and big tongue, the only way to go through life.

In a way I'm happy our party got rained out. If an orgy would have started, I'd be gettin' slammed right now. I better give testing at my Players Ball door in January, cause it's gonna get dirty!

OK, just thought I'd pop in and say hi.

BradShaw · 08-08-2003, 10:26 AM

Almost 29 years here as well, not a single drug. Hardly drink any more. I am no fun.

Serge_Oprano · 08-08-2003, 10:29 AM

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Originally posted by BradShaw
Almost 29 years here as well, not a single drug. Hardly drink any more. I am no fun.

hmmm...I guess I wouldn't need a condom than if I ever do ya
;-)))

SleazyDream · 08-08-2003, 10:39 AM

so, if a model gets pregnant from the unprotected sex at the photo shoot would topbucks and quickbucks be financially responsible for child support when the baby is born?

What about if the male and female models were a couple, and raise the child together as a family, but claim they didn't really want to have a child and felt obligated to have unprotected sex due to the pressure of the party?

And if topbucks and quickbucks end up paying child support would they get visitation rights on the child? The child could have a life where say one month a year living in the topbucks or quickbucks studio and visits for one weekend a month.......

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 08-08-2003, 10:40 AM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
so, if a model gets pregnant from the unprotected sex at the photo shoot would topbucks and quickbucks be financially responsible for child support when the baby is born?

What about if the male and female models were a couple, and raise the child together as a family, but claim they didn't really want to have a child and felt obligated to have unprotected sex due to the pressure of the party?

And if topbucks and quickbucks end up paying child support would they get visitation rights on the child? The child could have a life where say one month a year living in the topbucks or quickbucks studio and visits for one weekend a month.......

JFK · 08-08-2003, 10:45 AM

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Originally posted by PhotoGreggXXX

I take full responsibility for any misconceptions anyone has that was or wasn't at the show. I take full responsibility for the talent we hired for the show. I have to share responsibility with TopBucks for the 100's of people that loved the show and expressed that it was "awesome".

I for one, tought the shoot was one of the Best ones on record !Greg is right when he says "100's of people expressed that it was awesome

BradShaw · 08-08-2003, 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by JFK

I for one, tought the shoot was one of the Best ones on record !Greg is right when he says "100's of people expressed that it was awesome

For someone who is a photographer I am sure it was great. But from a business owners perspective, there is huge liability. If Top Bucks wants to do a photoshoot party for the Vancouver show, let me know. I can assure you it will be handled the right way.

HighRoller · 08-08-2003, 10:49 AM

The party was suppose to be at Billboardlive with the foam and all that, well they couldn't do that after the billboard incident, so they put it all together somewhere else, I was surprised how organized it was on such short notice.

SleazyDream · 08-08-2003, 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by BradShaw

For someone who is a photographer I am sure it was great. But from a business owners perspective, there is huge liability. If Top Bucks wants to do a photoshoot party for the Vancouver show, let me know. I can assure you it will be handled the right way.

handled the right way????? that's like pretty much the same as when you were offering lars business advise.

buuuhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

of fuck that's funny

funny funny funny

too fucking funny

BradShaw · 08-08-2003, 12:20 PM

Sleazy, I can run circles around you when it comes to content, video, etc. I have good people, lay off the donuts.

DAMNMAN · 08-11-2003, 09:11 PM

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Originally posted by VideoJ

I can't comment on other producers but for us two things are true

1) All of our talent is tested. Period.
2) Unless they are a couple all of our talent uses condoms.

Anyone who claims otherwise need to offer proof or accept the legal consequences for libel and/or slander.

1)

2)

DAMNMAN · 08-11-2003, 09:23 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw
Anyone who needs reality content, I can fire back up my studio in Vancouver. At one point we were pumping out 50 scenes a month.

ex.

milfsearch.com
and all reality sites at siccash.com

Brad you are such a spammer.

Everyone knows they'd rather have ZMASTER do their exclusive reality content shoots nowadays.

More spam

Hit me by email for content with all proper documentation and tests provided.webmaster at zmaster.com

BradShaw · 08-11-2003, 09:44 PM

Dan, what reality shoots have you done? We have done 100's. Who wants to pay a rookie like you to learn on their dime?

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08-07-2003, 10:15 PM	#54
ChimpytheChatter Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hollywood Posts: 9	Quote: I guess you didn't read it, it clearly says he talked to Quentin via instant message and then the quotes at the bottom say so and so from gofuckyourself.com says. So read it again, afterall nearly all of his shitty stories are messageboard and instant message bullshit. --- I read it. But I was refering to all the stories on this subject they wrote, not their latest post. Their latest post, while the interview was done thru a messenger service, was still informative and fair reporting. The reader posts under the message don't have anything to do with that site, that's just what people wrote who read the story. If the readers pulled posts off this board and posted them there, who cares. A lot of people have been posting here and there over the last couple of days. I read that site daily and it's always way ahead of AVN and all the other shitty news sites in the industry...not to mention they're the company that broke this story the day it happened...ya know the one four days later you're still talking about. Are you mad at the news agency who broke the Kobe story? Would you be pissed if they got an exclusive interview with the accuser, even if the only way they got it was by instant messenger? Geez.

08-08-2003, 01:03 AM	#58
Why MFBA Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: PNW Posts: 7,230	on a more serious note, photgregg really needs to grow a spine and stop pointing fingers. Q took a stand up role and accepted responsibilty on TopBucks behalf, gregg is just pointing shit at others. IF you needed something from TopBucks or Quickbuck for that matter i know them both, im sure they would not have refused anything they could have done to help to make thier party as successful as possible.

08-08-2003, 08:58 AM	#62
ChimpytheChatter Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hollywood Posts: 9	Where's the proof? Do you really need a photo if the reporter witnessed it and had the accounts of multiple parties attending as well, people involved in the production? Where's the photo of Kobe having sex with the accuser? Please.

08-08-2003, 10:49 AM	#70
HighRoller Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MN Posts: 1,037	The party was suppose to be at Billboardlive with the foam and all that, well they couldn't do that after the billboard incident, so they put it all together somewhere else, I was surprised how organized it was on such short notice.