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Old 08-06-2003, 09:28 AM   #51
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Ive heard that some 3rd party billers allow the paysites admin to disable rebills from being credited to affiliates. Any truth to that?
Its true. However the ones I'm aware of allow you to either credit all of the rebills or none of the rebills, you can't pick and chose which to credit so its not really a shaver.
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Old 08-06-2003, 09:52 AM   #52
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If the programs didn't shave sales and hits, the payout rates would be so much lower, but most likely more.

I like to think that none of my sponsors are shaving either hits nor sales, but I would have to be lame to think otherwise right?
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Old 08-06-2003, 10:05 AM   #53
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Why go on about it then?
Man, it was my 2nd post.

If you try to bash me find something better.
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Old 08-06-2003, 10:12 AM   #54
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I have no idea. The 'shaving' plugin was built into the signup script and sent shaved signups to a different account through the same processor .... if there was a glitch then in theory you shouldn't have had any signups. I don't know what your sponsor was using, so I really cant comment. anyhow ... just accept shaving.... you really don't lose anything much. $35 per signup is bullshit.
Sausage--I'd love to chat more with you offline about our service, but I have to disagree with you that shaving is a fact of life we have to live with....

Public companies can (and frequently do) cook their books, but that doesn't mean all companies do and that us investors need to put up with that crap....

We audit in many steps, and we've collectively worked for some of the largest sponsor programs and payment processors in the biz, so we're pretty savvy on the means to cheat. That said, as I mentioned above, we don't run paysites, and aren't interested in making money off the traffic, we're just trying to help the webmaster and in the process, establish our company as the auditor of choice....

If you have time to discuss, please ICQ/email me when you have a chance....

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Old 08-06-2003, 10:27 AM   #55
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Look guys shaving is a fact .... get used to it. even if they don't shave your sales, they take the cheque signups, or even take the exit console signups, or something.

I worked on a shave script for one of the top 10, and it is a work of art. It can smooth out bumps, take the lucky streaks and even manages to see when the traffic you send drops and can credit a shaved sale back to you to keep you sending. ever noticed when a sale just seems to pop up when you are sending next to no traffic ?? Anyhow, no auditing will fix the problem either ... too many ways to hide it.

Look, shaving will always happen and nothing will change it. The plugin script that we worked on was only set at around 15% resolved with a 5% buffer, so Its not too bad. I've seen one program which converted like a fucking dream and had average 4 months retention, and they shaved 50% and STILL had webmasters lining up.
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Old 08-06-2003, 10:47 AM   #56
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I made Battus reply 3 times in a row to my post
Oh and by useless I mean your innovative approach of coming on here and bashing.... who? Well someone for sure for shaving, but clearly without proof and saying you do not intend to reveal the name of this ALLEGED shaver.... so in other words.... a useless thread
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Old 08-06-2003, 11:42 AM   #57
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I made Battus reply 3 times in a row to my post
Oh and by useless I mean your innovative approach of coming on here and bashing.... who? Well someone for sure for shaving, but clearly without proof and saying you do not intend to reveal the name of this ALLEGED shaver.... so in other words.... a useless thread
Please dont make me reply 3 times again
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Old 08-06-2003, 11:48 AM   #58
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that porn posse do not fucking shave me prog sounds cool
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Old 08-06-2003, 06:15 PM   #59
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that porn posse do not fucking shave me prog sounds cool
Thanks Alias...we think so....

If you use PornKings or Flashcash, send us your WM ID's and we'll put you on our list so they don't f with ya....

And stay tuned to www.clicktruth.com as we are adding more progs each day (or tell the prog you like to talk to us--we pay a commission:-)...

Happy hunting,
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