The GloBill "I told you so" thread...

[p00p]

Serves you all right.

On the other hand, I didn't think they would go out of biz. Must suck when they are the only processor you can use, huh?

[venus]

wasnt globill the billing company who was bragging that their clients did not have to pay the visa fee's?

[Raven]

I am so biting my tongue.

[p00p]

Originally posted by venus
wasnt globill the billing company who was bragging that their clients did not have to pay the visa fee's?

Yes! Where are all the people who were defending them on this very board?

Gone! Poof! Hiding! Crying! Wallowing in self pity!

[p00p]

Originally posted by Raven
I am so biting my tongue.

Come on dude, let it out! People who don't say what is on their minds have something to hide, a hidden agenda!

[Tipsy]

Originally posted by p00p

Serves you all right.

On the other hand, I didn't think they would go out of biz. Must suck when they are the only processor you can use, huh?

That's the bad thing about it. Seems for a few Canadians it was almost a last resort and you can't blame them for at least trying with Globill. However, for others who used them....

[Juicy D. Links]

I took a good "poop" this morning after i had some oat bran

[funkmaster]

Originally posted by p00p

Serves you all right.

On the other hand, I didn't think they would go out of biz. Must suck when they are the only processor you can use, huh?

... well, afterall they saved the $750 ... most guys are still in positive numbers here !!

[tootie]

I wonder why some of the people screaming about Acacia and refusing to pay, donating to IMPA and trying to fight back... are laughing at those who used Globill as their way of telling VISA

I considered using Globill myself. I'm obviously glad that I didn't, but the decision was based on the fact that I had llimited startup funds that I thought might best be used for content or other things instead of paying VISA's extortion fee and because I felt that I wanted a way to avoid paying that stupid fee because I didn't feel it was right. Had it been more reasonable (like maybe a $99 processing fee) then I would have been fine with paying it, but $750 is ridiculous because there is no way that administration fees for any of the companies involved comes anywhere near this amount. Not to mention the outrageous fees that they are extorting from banks/IPSP's/webmasters in the form of those stupid chargeback fines when it's their fault chargebacks are so high anyway for allowing any schmuck whose wife finds the CC bill to claim "he didn't do it".

I think Acacia must be fought, but I also think people should be doing more than they are to stop VISA, too. After all, if VISA does it, Mastercard could do it, too. And if Acacia, VISA and possibly MC are all extorting from us... where are we going to get the money to pay off the next extortionist who comes along claiming to have patents on the idea of nude photography (major sarcasm there)?

[p00p]

Originally posted by Tipsy


That's the bad thing about it. Seems for a few Canadians it was almost a last resort and you can't blame them for at least trying with Globill. However, for others who used them....

There are so many options for Canadians. So many! Problem is, you have to PAY for them.

[p00p]

Originally posted by funkmaster


... well, afterall they saved the $750 ... most guys are still in positive numbers here !!

yeah.
Why anyone would put their "business" at risk over $750 is beyond me. Oh, right, they weren't making money anyways.

Ah yes, the herd is getting thinned again....good times ahead for those who are patient. Na zdrowie!!

[Tipsy]

Originally posted by p00p

There are so many options for Canadians. So many! Problem is, you have to PAY for them.

Hence the 'for a few' Some really are too broke to do so but then I wont go into my views on starting a paysite when that skint...

Mind you, even with the money the solutions are a major pain in the ass for them. But then, that's the risk they took. Didn't need a high IQ to see what would eventually happen. Unfortunately if VISA say jump and you don't you will eventually be very, very fucked.

[[Labret]]

Celebrating the death of a processor is absurd.

[gothweb]

"I told you so."

[TheSaint]

Ok, I'll play. When I chose Globill for 2 sites last year the $750 was the farthest thing from my mind.

It was based on personal recommendations, period.

For the past year they have been good as gold, always paying on time.

Now obviously I am fucked. I haven't done the math yet, but certainly tens of thousands of dollars. I somehow doubt that the guys in the Carribean are going to pay me, especially when those fucks are now bouncing checks ALREADY sent.

So, no big deal. CCBill will have me up by tomorrow, and I'll send all my recurring customers a sweetheart deal via email (yep, I saved them all) to come back. (It will take 10 7-10 days to get Visa approval, but I expect to do 90% of normal processing during then. Almost all my customers have a mastercard)

In the end <yawn> its a little bump in the road, except as a constant reminder of just how dishonest some people can be.

Rot in hell, globill, this has nothing to do with your banking problem. You could have warned us a week ago and kept up the payment schedule as usual, but then again, you are shitheads and loosers.

[funkmaster]

Originally posted by [Labret]
Celebrating the death of a processor is absurd.

... I will open a big bottle of champagne the day ibill turns off the lights ... 8month to go, what do you think ?

[p00p]

Originally posted by [Labret]
Celebrating the death of a processor is absurd.

If it was one of the compliant ones, it would be absurd.
Globill was playing games with Visa. Visa won. The writing was on the table many months ago. People had a chance to back out, do it right. They didn't, and now they are fucked.

[scoreman]

Originally posted by funkmaster


... I will open a big bottle of champagne the day ibill turns off the lights ... 8month to go, what do you think ?

Care for a large wager on this?

[jimmyf]

Originally posted by venus
wasnt globill the billing company who was bragging that their clients did not have to pay the visa fee's?

Yep your right.

Your page didn't load for me. Think I use to promote it a few years ago, not 100% sure, was going to check it out

[NETbilling]

Originally posted by venus
wasnt globill the billing company who was bragging that their clients did not have to pay the visa fee's?

Now, now Venus. Not everyone has their own merchant account and uses the best gateway in the land, yet. :-)

Mitch

[p00p]

Originally posted by netbilling


Now, now Venus. Not everyone has their own merchant account and uses the best gateway in the land, yet. :-)

Mitch

I believe business is going to be booming for you soon.

You should work on something for Canadians, the solution you have now sucks. Prepare your company for the future, Mitch!

[Honeyslut]

Originally posted by p00p

Yes! Where are all the people who were defending them on this very board?

Gone! Poof! Hiding! Crying! Wallowing in self pity!

I am busy signing up at ccbill...

[Raven]

Originally posted by p00p

Come on dude, let it out! People who don't say what is on their minds have something to hide, a hidden agenda!

Ya know....I said it all when Glo-bill....started telling people they had a solution that didn't involve a US presence..that didn't involve money....

This business is not free...

Glo-bill was never a favourite of mine; but, when they offered an out that wasn't....and webmasters flocked on over....thinking they were going to be David to VISA's Goliath?

What is there to say...when the big guys couldn't do it...and, don't you think they would have?

And, the big guys said they couldn't.....and, I believed them...

So...there you have it...

[AmeliaG]

Of course it is a drag to have this happen. The $750 is totally irrelevent to the cost of doing business for anyone serious. I don't really like the registration aspect personally. There is nothing wrong with being gay, but the Nazis made homosexuals register and wear pink triangles before they said, "what they hey let's gas 'em." There is nothing wrong with being Jewish, but the Nazis made Jews register and wear yellow stars before they said, "what they hey let's gas 'em." It sounds over-the-top, but it was over-the-top and surprising the first time.

That said, I think Globill could have given webmasters the opportunity to retrieve their data before taking everything down. I do regular backups, so I lost very little, but this is not the case for everyone.

Of course I am really upset about my rebills and my dough, but I have pretty unique sites that my members enjoy, so I expect that most folks will rejoin. I will probably give some sort of sweet deal to them, same as TheSaint. I've been getting phone calls and emails from a bunch of decent processors, but I'm going to go with ccbill for now and I think that will be good for my affiliate program as folks such as spotbrokers who were uncomfortable with globill will be comfortable with ccbill.

But like Labret said, it is absurd to celebrate the death of a processor. News bulletin: This is a high risk business and there is always the possibility that the well will run dry for everyone, so no use crying and no sense celebrating.

[NETbilling]

Originally posted by p00p

I believe business is going to be booming for you soon.

You should work on something for Canadians, the solution you have now sucks. Prepare your company for the future, Mitch!

Hi,

Business has been booming for some time now.We are working on a new solution for out of US merchants that are lower volume. The problem is that the offshore banks really want higher volume merchants.

Mitch

[Webby]

nettbilling:

The problem is that the offshore banks really want higher volume merchants.

Another offshore processor?

Na.. understand you!!

[p00p]

Originally posted by AmeliaG
Of course it is a drag to have this happen. The $750 is totally irrelevent to the cost of doing business for anyone serious. I don't really like the registration aspect personally. There is nothing wrong with being gay, but the Nazis made homosexuals register and wear pink triangles before they said, "what they hey let's gas 'em." There is nothing wrong with being Jewish, but the Nazis made Jews register and wear yellow stars before they said, "what they hey let's gas 'em." It sounds over-the-top, but it was over-the-top and surprising the first time.

That said, I think Globill could have given webmasters the opportunity to retrieve their data before taking everything down. I do regular backups, so I lost very little, but this is not the case for everyone.

Of course I am really upset about my rebills and my dough, but I have pretty unique sites that my members enjoy, so I expect that most folks will rejoin. I will probably give some sort of sweet deal to them, same as TheSaint. I've been getting phone calls and emails from a bunch of decent processors, but I'm going to go with ccbill for now and I think that will be good for my affiliate program as folks such as spotbrokers who were uncomfortable with globill will be comfortable with ccbill.

But like Labret said, it is absurd to celebrate the death of a processor. News bulletin: This is a high risk business and there is always the possibility that the well will run dry for everyone, so no use crying and no sense celebrating.

There's nothing absurd about celebrating a company trying to screw Visa over going out of business. What's absurd is they stayed in business for so long and misled webmasters for so long. Do you believe they just found out they would be shut down yesterday?

[p00p]

Originally posted by netbilling



Hi,

Business has been booming for some time now.We are working on a new solution for out of US merchants that are lower volume. The problem is that the offshore banks really want higher volume merchants.

Mitch

Good news! I have wanted to use you for years, but it was such a pain it wasn't worth it. By the time we paid this, paid that, hired this, hired that, it wasn't much more to process with 3rd party.

[Guy]

we now offer echeck processing for adult.

[Sausage]

Originally posted by funkmaster

... well, afterall they saved the $750 ... most guys are still in positive numbers here !!

Must be putting through next to no sales then. Was globill a processor for all the small sites or something ?

[Nardimus]

ive never understood why anyone would use globill anyways. theyve always had the shittiest interfaces ive ever seen. looked like some kid used word and made some html join forms.

[AmeliaG]

Originally posted by p00p

There's nothing absurd about celebrating a company trying to screw Visa over going out of business. What's absurd is they stayed in business for so long and misled webmasters for so long. Do you believe they just found out they would be shut down yesterday?

I think you are totally correct on that point. I just also think there are risks whichever way a webmaster goes on a lot of different decisions. In this business, I think it is really important to maintain a cushion because it is high risk. Globill took good care of me for a long time. The Visa registration data could have been used to impose new taxes or fees or worse, but it wasn't. At least, not yet. I wish Globill had been right that they could get around the rules on that, but it is not like this is the biggest shock either. They did do the decent thing about getting current member data back online, so there is a reasonable chance they may end up paying in October.

[Olivier]

Originally posted by Guy
we now offer echeck processing for adult.

who are you?

Is your company from Montreal?

email me:

olivier at angelcontent.com

Thanks!

[venus]

Mastercard already does it.
People with merchant accounts already pay the MC fee's, you will see, those of you using third party billing will get hit up for it also. But the mastercard fee is 1000 initally and I cant rmember the annual on it.

Originally posted by tootie
. After all, if VISA does it, Mastercard could do it, too. And if Acacia, VISA and possibly MC are all extorting from us... where are we going to get the money to pay off the next extortionist who comes along claiming to have patents on the idea of nude photography (major sarcasm there)?

[p00p]

Originally posted by venus
Mastercard already does it.
People with merchant accounts already pay the MC fee's, you will see, those of you using third party billing will get hit up for it also. But the mastercard fee is 1000 initally and I cant rmember the annual on it.

WRONG!
Mastercard wanted to charge $1k, but CCBill (and other processors, not many) found a work around.

I love your tits, btw. You have a new fan!

[venus]

My website didnt load for you?
what error ? DNS error or what exactly?

Originally posted by jimmyf
Yep your right.

Your page didn't load for me. Think I use to promote it a few years ago, not 100% sure, was going to check it out

[NETbilling]

Originally posted by p00p

Good news! I have wanted to use you for years, but it was such a pain it wasn't worth it. By the time we paid this, paid that, hired this, hired that, it wasn't much more to process with 3rd party.

Hi,

There will for sure be alot of paperwork to get yout merchant account, as there always is. No need to hire anyone. However, it is a bit of a process and expense to get the merchant account setup. However, once that is done, you will gain an incredible amount of control and will own your data including the card #s. We all know today what that is worth. You will surely save at least 5-7% in processing fees.

Please contact me Monday if you want to discuss your needs and options.

Toll Free within the US: (888)357-8166
Outside the US: (661)252-2456

Thank you, Mitch Farber

[footsex]

Originally posted by p00p

Serves you all right.

On the other hand, I didn't think they would go out of biz. Must suck when they are the only processor you can use, huh?

once an asshole always an asshole!

[gothweb]

Originally posted by AmeliaG


Of course I am really upset about my rebills and my dough, but I have pretty unique sites that my members enjoy, so I expect that most folks will rejoin

That sounds like your perspective as a webmaster. As someone who runs an affiliate program, what happens to your affiliates? They just lost all their recent signups, and any chance at rebills.

This isn't a dig at you, just at the complacency about any program getting back on their feet. When you have more people to think about than yourself, it's important to have the money going through a solid biller.

[reallynicejerk]

Originally posted by tootie
Had it been more reasonable (like maybe a $99 processing fee) then I would have been fine with paying it, but $750 is ridiculous because there is no way that administration fees for any of the companies involved comes anywhere near this amount.

There's a reason that the fee is this high. To keep the jackass ripoff companies out so that it doesn't become filled with dipshit know nothing scam artists like 99% of Rackshack's customers which sell hosting.

[reallynicejerk]

Originally posted by gothweb
That sounds like your perspective as a webmaster. As someone who runs an affiliate program, what happens to your affiliates? They just lost all their recent signups, and any chance at rebills.

Seems like a common problem on the internet. credit card companies don't care about processors, processors don't care about webmasters, and webmasters don't care about their affiliates. All of it starts with the fucking surfers calling in chargebacks after they get their membership and download all the porn they want and then don't want to pay for the porn site.

Or, does it start with the porn site webmaster that rips off the customers, pissing them off to the point of getting chargebacks?

I don't know. I was told that Globill had really low chargeback rates.

But I'm a total dipshit in this whole area so I'll shut up about all this now, i just know that there's a lot of companies out there that don't care that they owe me money. One of them has this big pay per click amateur website and this adult webmaster forum, they owe me a shit load of money and won't answer my e-mails and don't give a fuck about me...

[FlyingIguana]

i promoted one site using globill, but that site over the past couple months made up a large % of my revenue. now its all gone.

hopefully that site can get up and running with another processor soon.

[AmeliaG]

Originally posted by reallynicejerk


Seems like a common problem on the internet. credit card companies don't care about processors, processors don't care about webmasters, and webmasters don't care about their affiliates. All of it starts with the fucking surfers calling in chargebacks after they get their membership and download all the porn they want and then don't want to pay for the porn site.

Or, does it start with the porn site webmaster that rips off the customers, pissing them off to the point of getting chargebacks?

I don't know. I was told that Globill had really low chargeback rates.

But I'm a total dipshit in this whole area so I'll shut up about all this now, i just know that there's a lot of companies out there that don't care that they owe me money. One of them has this big pay per click amateur website and this adult webmaster forum, they owe me a shit load of money and won't answer my e-mails and don't give a fuck about me...

reallynicejerk you know I love you and I'll take care of you. Globill did have really good scrubbing and low chargeback rates. They were really good for a long time. Adult internet is high risk, so I'm not about to cry because of a setback. Setbacks are just part of the cost of doing business. Feel free to drop me a line at [email protected] with any questions you may have about what is up and I'll let you know as I know. --Amelia