Im Going Into Newbie Mode - Need Advise, Please Help .. - GoFuckYourself.com

lil2rich4u2 · 07-23-2003, 05:46 PM

Ok the only way to get true feedback is to disclose my stats i supose, so i will include a screenshot of them.

ALL of this traffic is comming from a single page, that is getting very targetted traffic from ONLY the SE's ... no trades, bought traffic, tgp's, ONLY SE's ...

The mag i am using is 100% targetted to my traffic, they happen to have one that fits my EXACT niche, and i thought this would help.

The page is simple ... the main page has a link says "No Credit Card? CLICK HERE!" and it leads to a page that has nothing more than this screeny below ...

Ok so my main page is doing its job and getting it to my second page (shown above) and my second page is doing its job by getting the hits to the sponsor (see stats below).

What is the problem with the confirms? If i can get HALF of my submits to actually confirm it, then i will be happy since this site was just sitting there anyhow.

Is it possibly something that the sponsor should/could be doing differently?

Here is a pic of my stats for the week, remember i just started pushing them so the ratio and traffic has gone up and down as i tweak my pages to get better CTR.

Please advise ... i would really like to tweak this and make it work better for me.

Thanks in advance.

Robocop · 07-23-2003, 05:53 PM

Robocop's advice is for you to leave the business....mmmkay?

BigFrog · 07-23-2003, 05:54 PM

is that 2nd page yours or your sponsors?

lil2rich4u2 · 07-23-2003, 05:54 PM

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Originally posted by Robocop
Robocop's advice is for you to leave the business....mmmkay?

just figured i can maybe get some good advice from you guys.

no biggie, thanks anyhow.

lil2rich4u2 · 07-23-2003, 05:55 PM

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Originally posted by BigFrog
is that 2nd page yours or your sponsors?

mine ...

BigFrog · 07-23-2003, 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

mine ...

why do you have it?

gothweb · 07-23-2003, 05:57 PM

This guy has to be a fake character.

lil2rich4u2 · 07-23-2003, 05:58 PM

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Originally posted by BigFrog

why do you have it?

wanted another chance to remind them to use a valid email addy, and to also remind them to check email right after they hit submit.

Aparently its not working too well

lil2rich4u2 · 07-23-2003, 05:59 PM

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Originally posted by gothweb
This guy has to be a fake character.

right ... because its so unheard of for someone to actually ask for help with something that relates to the biz, eh?

BigFrog · 07-23-2003, 06:01 PM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

wanted another chance to remind them to use a valid email addy, and to also remind them to check email right after they hit submit.

Aparently its not working too well

get rid of it. work on the 1st page....let the sponsor do the rest.

Carrie · 07-23-2003, 06:01 PM

Just because you tell them that they must use a real email to sign up doesn't mean they'll believe you.

How many times have you gone to re-install RealPlayer or Quicktime after a format and put in an address like [email protected]... and got taken to the download page?

Same thing.
People sign up with fake emails trying to be taken to the members area and therefore, don't confirm.
Deal with it.

07-23-2003, 06:01 PM

Don't send targetted search engine traffic to a free email program.

quiet · 07-23-2003, 06:01 PM

get rid of the 2nd page.

SYNIKAL · 07-23-2003, 06:03 PM

Sly_RJ · 07-23-2003, 06:04 PM

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Originally posted by quiet
get rid of the 2nd page.

lil2rich4u2 · 07-23-2003, 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by quiet
get rid of the 2nd page.

Ok.

I will send the traffic direct from my main page to the sponsor.

Im assuming this will result in way more hits, and way worst ratio's ... but i assume you know what your talking about, so i will listen to you guys.

BTW .... any feedback on the fact that even though the second page IS there, and all these hits are still getting to the sponsor ... wouldnt that make them that much more targetted?

Thats how it would seem to me anyhow ...

BigFrog · 07-23-2003, 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by SYNIKAL

must be getting close to the end of the month. your in the top ten...quit spamming gfy already. damn.
go away swoit fucker.

gothweb · 07-23-2003, 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

right ... because its so unheard of for someone to actually ask for help with something that relates to the biz, eh?

No. Look at the page you are asking about. Look at it. Nice.

BigFrog · 07-23-2003, 06:07 PM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

Ok.

I will send the traffic direct from my main page to the sponsor.

Im assuming this will result in way more hits, and way worst ratio's ... any feedback?

BTW .... any feedback on the fact that even though the second page IS there, and all these hits are still getting to the sponsor ... wouldnt that make them that much more targetted?

Thats how it would seem to me anyhow ...

isnt that what the 1st page is for? you said it's all SE traffic.....how much more targeted do you want?

slapass · 07-23-2003, 06:07 PM

.10/click is not bad. Check the stats to see how many you lose in between but it seems to be working ok.

lil2rich4u2 · 07-23-2003, 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by gothweb

No. Look at the page you are asking about. Look at it. Nice.

good or bad, it is getting hits to the sponsor. However the only reason that page is there is to target the hits better prior to hitting the sponsors front door ... that isnt working too well i think.

I will listen to the guys above and try a few days with sending direct from my main page .. see how it works out.

Sly_RJ · 07-23-2003, 06:09 PM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

Ok.

I will send the traffic direct from my main page to the sponsor.

Im assuming this will result in way more hits, and way worst ratio's ... but i assume you know what your talking about, so i will listen to you guys.

BTW .... any feedback on the fact that even though the second page IS there, and all these hits are still getting to the sponsor ... wouldnt that make them that much more targetted?

Thats how it would seem to me anyhow ...

Why are you sending filtered niche traffic to a fucking email program? Unless they're looking for free ezines, make some money off of them...

lil2rich4u2 · 07-23-2003, 06:10 PM

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Originally posted by BigFrog

isnt that what the 1st page is for? you said it's all SE traffic.....how much more targeted do you want?

yes the SE hits are delivered targetted directly for this niche ...

however i wanted a chance to brainwash these hits into using a real email addy, and going to check addy right after submitting.

In my head i thought it would work nice .. i was wrong, and its time to make a change.

quiet · 07-23-2003, 06:12 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Why are you sending filtered niche traffic to a fucking email program? Unless they're looking for free ezines, make some money off of them...

what he said. sending se to email programs?

lil2rich4u2 · 07-23-2003, 06:13 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Why are you sending filtered niche traffic to a fucking email program? Unless they're looking for free ezines, make some money off of them...

Sly i think we talked about this via ICQ one day ....

I had the traffic going to silvercash since they also have the exact niche i need. I was getting not too many signups.

When SC went down i went looking for a new program and ran into this recently ... I like email prog's since they generally show alot more activity than a regular sponsor .. its unfortunate that they also take ALOT longer to build upto any sort of $$$

If you would be willing, id love to speak to you via ICQ and discuss the hits, traffic, page and whatever. just drop me a line.

Sly_RJ · 07-23-2003, 06:15 PM

Silver Cash can't be the only sponsor with that niche. Get me on ICQ, I'm sure I know of another...

lil2rich4u2 · 07-23-2003, 06:16 PM

BTW overall i think that this is working out better for me than SC did.

At this rate it will be the equivilent of 4 or 5 signups at SC, i dont think iw as getting that many per month off of this page.

So even at these ratio's it is still better than what it was, but i have the feeling that it can be doing much better on an email program.

As targetted to the niche as it is, i would expect much greater conversions (off any sponsor) i just wish i knew how to work it ....

lil2rich4u2 · 07-23-2003, 06:16 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Silver Cash can't be the only sponsor with that niche. Get me on ICQ, I'm sure I know of another...

comming ....

slapass · 07-23-2003, 06:17 PM

Dude this page is too funny! http://www.nyclubgirls.com/
Maybe the slide bar should have contrast if you expect anyone to know to look for the link. WTF

BigFrog · 07-23-2003, 06:18 PM

well if you ever get some cumshot traffic, look me up....i'll help you make some cash.

Hue G. Pness · 07-23-2003, 06:19 PM

What do you mean you're going "in to" newbie mode?

lil2rich4u2 · 07-23-2003, 06:20 PM

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Originally posted by slapass
Dude this page is too funny! http://www.nyclubgirls.com/
Maybe the slide bar should have contrast if you expect anyone to know to look for the link. WTF

really?

what res do you have?

on mine it lines up perfectly ... no scrolling needed

Pornkings · 07-23-2003, 06:22 PM

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Originally posted by quiet
get rid of the 2nd page.

Dido every page you load on someone has potential of getting dropped.

Let the program build the sites to convert it and explain whats required.

target the traffic but I think the 2nd page is over kill and I bet your losing traffic from it as well.

Snake Doctor · 07-23-2003, 06:23 PM

Without a valid email address we can't verify you're over 18 years old

Pornkings · 07-23-2003, 06:26 PM

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Originally posted by evildick
Don't send targetted search engine traffic to a free email program.

I would test a few programs to see what makes you the most.

email programs do well on mass traffic. if its targeted SE traffic you would probably make more of off a PPS and then have a exit to a Free email program

Also all our sites have $1 trial for a month in the Porn4abuck program and now we have Porn4aBuck traffic back where you can control the exit to have 0 or 50

and don't forget we will have Free trials again very very soon

muchmoreporn · 07-23-2003, 06:26 PM

lets say i got 5k of se traffic to my free site would there be away to say , if traffic from http://www.google.com redirect to page thats would convert instead of giving them free porn. free porn shouldnt be easy to find.

lil2rich4u2 · 07-23-2003, 06:39 PM

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Originally posted by muchmoreporn
lets say i got 5k of se traffic to my free site would there be away to say , if traffic from http://www.google.com redirect to page thats would convert instead of giving them free porn. free porn shouldnt be easy to find.

then why use all the free porn to begin with?

you can fill your pages to the ears with free content, doesnt have to be revealing hardcore shots.

You can give the surfer 10 free pics per page, and spread out over 100 pages = a buttload of free porn.

But if you use all softcore and semi-revealing shit, then a link like "click here for hardcore stuff" or something to that affect ...

no need to redirect, if you cheat, you will be caught. Trust me.

Rorschach · 07-23-2003, 06:51 PM

It's spelt "definitely" not "definately."

Holly · 07-23-2003, 07:06 PM

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Originally posted by Rorschach
It's spelt "definitely" not "definately."

It's spelled "spelled", not "spelt".

quiet · 07-23-2003, 07:06 PM

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Originally posted by Holly

It's spelled "spelled", not "spelt".

lol

Rorschach · 07-23-2003, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Holly

It's spelled "spelled", not "spelt".

According to the OED "spelt" is a correct past participle of "spell," so go eat a dick.

Rorschach · 07-23-2003, 08:35 PM

and don't talk back to your daddy.

lil2rich4u2 · 07-23-2003, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Holly

It's spelled "spelled", not "spelt".

haha

bobv50 · 07-23-2003, 08:47 PM

lil2rich4u2...I see that you are promoting the CE Mags..You have to realize that If a surfer has ever signed up with "any" Ce mag before...you won't get ($1.50) for the same e-mail address.

Also some surfers don't "automatically" check their e-mail afterwards..you have to give it some time. And with the Ce Mags there is always a chance for an "upsell" $15 . I know you just started promoting the Ce Mags because I have seen some of your other post on here and the CE webmaster board. You have to give it some time and "tweak" your page. I would suggest making a "text menu" table with all of the CE Mags and give your surfers a wider selection.

If you truly want some constructive tips..go to the CE webmaster board and Rowdy will help you out

The very people that tell you not to use free email sponsors ...Have free email sponsors in the exit consoles of their pps sites.

There are many paysites that use CE mags in their exit consoles..I have even seen CE mags text links in the exit console of "other" free email sponsors. It is a good program and there are tons of cheap surfers that don't have credit cards don't miss out on them.

bobv

Rorschach · 07-23-2003, 08:49 PM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

haha

I can't help it if you're illiterate as well as stupid.

lil2rich4u2 · 07-23-2003, 08:52 PM

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Originally posted by Rorschach

I can't help it if you're illiterate as well as stupid.

you think im illiterate? lol

you went through this entire thread and all you can come up with is a spelling error?

sheesh, talk about nothing better to do ...

zzgundamnzz · 07-23-2003, 08:55 PM

Get rid of that second page. Add some text similar to this or what you had in your second page.

Tell the surfers that they have to enter a real email address because there login and password will be sent to them when they hit the confirm link.

Yes that one line of text near the banner/whatever gets clicked on really does make a difference. Surfers are really lazy

Rorschach · 07-23-2003, 09:05 PM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

you think im illiterate? lol

you went through this entire thread and all you can come up with is a spelling error?

sheesh, talk about nothing better to do ...

Judging from the fact that there are at least four basic spelling and punctuation errors in the sample you posted, yes, you do seem to be lacking in edumacation.

As has already been pointed out to you, the solution to your problem is:
* learn how to provoke response you desire from the surfer.
* don't waste your time with worthless second pages if you don't know how to sell.
* don't waste SE traffic on free email progs except as a last resort.
* your ad or ad page should reflect the style and tone of the tour you're sending the surfer to.

...and as any direct marketer will tell you, correct spelling instills buyer confidence and makes a quantifiable difference in conversions.

gezzed · 07-23-2003, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rorschach

Judging from the fact that there are at least four basic spelling and punctuation errors in the sample you posted, yes, you do seem to be lacking in edumacation.

As has already been pointed out to you, the solution to your problem is:
* learn how to provoke response you desire from the surfer.
* don't waste your time with worthless second pages if you don't know how to sell.
* don't waste SE traffic on free email progs except as a last resort.
* your ad or ad page should reflect the style and tone of the tour you're sending the surfer to.

...and as any direct marketer will tell you, correct spelling instills buyer confidence and makes a quantifiable difference in conversions.

I'd have to agree on the point that using correct spelling on your web pages does create a more professional appearance, spelling mistakes make the author look bad in my opinion.

Having said that, if you insist on correcting people's spelling on a webmaster board, you'll be in for a lot of work, Rorschach. You haven't really given very useful advice either; far too general.

Holly · 07-23-2003, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rorschach
and don't talk back to your daddy.

Mouth off to me like that again, and I might not be so willing to call you that the next time you're begging me to. Which seems to be quiet often, lately.

07-23-2003, 05:46 PM	#1
lil2rich4u2 ICQ: 175171926 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,046	Im Going Into Newbie Mode - Need Advise, Please Help .. Ok the only way to get true feedback is to disclose my stats i supose, so i will include a screenshot of them. ALL of this traffic is comming from a single page, that is getting very targetted traffic from ONLY the SE's ... no trades, bought traffic, tgp's, ONLY SE's ... The mag i am using is 100% targetted to my traffic, they happen to have one that fits my EXACT niche, and i thought this would help. The page is simple ... the main page has a link says "No Credit Card? CLICK HERE!" and it leads to a page that has nothing more than this screeny below ... Ok so my main page is doing its job and getting it to my second page (shown above) and my second page is doing its job by getting the hits to the sponsor (see stats below). What is the problem with the confirms? If i can get HALF of my submits to actually confirm it, then i will be happy since this site was just sitting there anyhow. Is it possibly something that the sponsor should/could be doing differently? Here is a pic of my stats for the week, remember i just started pushing them so the ratio and traffic has gone up and down as i tweak my pages to get better CTR. Please advise ... i would really like to tweak this and make it work better for me. Thanks in advance. __________________ HEY!! Unbeatable hosting! Customer service is top notch! --> ISPrime <-- Do a search on any board, their reputation is rock solid .. for years!!

07-23-2003, 05:57 PM	#7
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07-23-2003, 06:01 PM	#13
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07-23-2003, 06:15 PM	#26
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07-23-2003, 05:53 PM	#2
Robocop Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 325	Robocop's advice is for you to leave the business....mmmkay?

07-23-2003, 05:54 PM	#3
BigFrog Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 2,057	is that 2nd page yours or your sponsors?

07-23-2003, 06:01 PM	#11
Carrie Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Virgin - nee Posts: 3,162	Just because you tell them that they must use a real email to sign up doesn't mean they'll believe you. How many times have you gone to re-install RealPlayer or Quicktime after a format and put in an address like [email protected]... and got taken to the download page? Same thing. People sign up with fake emails trying to be taken to the members area and therefore, don't confirm. Deal with it.

07-23-2003, 06:01 PM	#12
evildick Guest Posts: n/a	Don't send targetted search engine traffic to a free email program.

07-23-2003, 06:07 PM	#20
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,625	.10/click is not bad. Check the stats to see how many you lose in between but it seems to be working ok.

07-23-2003, 06:16 PM	#27
lil2rich4u2 ICQ: 175171926 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,046	BTW overall i think that this is working out better for me than SC did. At this rate it will be the equivilent of 4 or 5 signups at SC, i dont think iw as getting that many per month off of this page. So even at these ratio's it is still better than what it was, but i have the feeling that it can be doing much better on an email program. As targetted to the niche as it is, i would expect much greater conversions (off any sponsor) i just wish i knew how to work it .... __________________ HEY!! Unbeatable hosting! Customer service is top notch! --> ISPrime <-- Do a search on any board, their reputation is rock solid .. for years!!

07-23-2003, 06:17 PM	#29
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,625	Dude this page is too funny! http://www.nyclubgirls.com/ Maybe the slide bar should have contrast if you expect anyone to know to look for the link. WTF

07-23-2003, 06:18 PM	#30
BigFrog Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 2,057	well if you ever get some cumshot traffic, look me up....i'll help you make some cash.

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07-23-2003, 06:23 PM	#34
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07-23-2003, 06:26 PM	#36
muchmoreporn Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 784	lets say i got 5k of se traffic to my free site would there be away to say , if traffic from http://www.google.com redirect to page thats would convert instead of giving them free porn. free porn shouldnt be easy to find. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

07-23-2003, 06:51 PM	#38
Rorschach So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,579	It's spelt "definitely" not "definately."

07-23-2003, 08:35 PM	#42
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07-23-2003, 08:47 PM	#44
bobv50 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: TEXAS Posts: 260	lil2rich4u2...I see that you are promoting the CE Mags..You have to realize that If a surfer has ever signed up with "any" Ce mag before...you won't get ($1.50) for the same e-mail address. Also some surfers don't "automatically" check their e-mail afterwards..you have to give it some time. And with the Ce Mags there is always a chance for an "upsell" $15 . I know you just started promoting the Ce Mags because I have seen some of your other post on here and the CE webmaster board. You have to give it some time and "tweak" your page. I would suggest making a "text menu" table with all of the CE Mags and give your surfers a wider selection. If you truly want some constructive tips..go to the CE webmaster board and Rowdy will help you out The very people that tell you not to use free email sponsors ...Have free email sponsors in the exit consoles of their pps sites. There are many paysites that use CE mags in their exit consoles..I have even seen CE mags text links in the exit console of "other" free email sponsors. It is a good program and there are tons of cheap surfers that don't have credit cards don't miss out on them. bobv __________________ A wise Pimp once said "PUSSY WILL SELL...EVEN WHEN CORN & COTTON WON'T!"

07-23-2003, 08:55 PM	#47
zzgundamnzz Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,102	Get rid of that second page. Add some text similar to this or what you had in your second page. Tell the surfers that they have to enter a real email address because there login and password will be sent to them when they hit the confirm link. Yes that one line of text near the banner/whatever gets clicked on really does make a difference. Surfers are really lazy __________________