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sexeducation 07-13-2003 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gemini
1 yr old domain name, so YOU are the more important aff eh? lol? Also I am not a 19 yr old, nor even in my 30's. Bump that number. I've worked in adult longer than you were in school.

Point being is, you must obey Canadian AND American laws and you won't even listen to common sense. You just fluffed and foddered my points. As to content - sponsors, wonder how many sponsors you will have now? You've shown utter stupidity throughout this whole ordeal.

And you recklessly endanger the adult business without a qualm, just a paltry excuse trying to cover up the fact that you can't even pay to consult an attorney. If you made as much as you just tried to let on then you'd not think twice about laying out the cash to get solid advice.

Someone here will agree with you I'm sure... hope the judge accepts them as a legal expert when they haul you into court. Its YOUR rearend riding on it, not any of ours.

BTW, you are dead wrong on the v*ginal orgasm. :Graucho

"aff" ???

I intend to obey Canadian, US and UK laws simultaneously.
This is a discussion of those laws.

" ... And you recklessly endanger the adult business without a qualm..." Aaah so that's it ... but how is the "hamburger flipping" Father endangering the adult business?

How?

LadyMischief 07-13-2003 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation


"aff" ???

I intend to obey Canadian, US and UK laws simultaneously.
This is a discussin of those laws.

" ... And you recklessly endanger the adult business without a qualm..." Aaah so that's it ... but how is the "hamburger flipping" Father endangering the adult business?

How?

Ok, I lied.. Let me explain this to you in the most simple of terms. When you participate knowingly or unknowingly in illegal activitity and you are in ANY way associated with the adult industry, which you're attemping to do, it NEGATIVELY REFLECTS on those of us who do this for a living. YOU THREATEN OUR LIVLIHOOD BY YOUR VERY EXISTANCE, you fool. You wonder why people are angry? The bs you are pulling makes it harder for those of us who DO follow the law to gain the legitimacy we require to conduct business. There's ENOUGH prejudice against the adult industry without you reinforcing it by engaging in illegal activities.

FATPad 07-13-2003 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation

I intend to obey Canadian, US and UK laws simultaneously.
This is a discussion of those laws.

No, it's not a discussion.

It's you doing the same thing you always do. You whining over and over hoping someone will tell you it's okay to steal pics and use them on your site.

You must be starved for attention because even a fucken retard by now would have figured out what people were telling him.

sexeducation 07-13-2003 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LadyMischief
The only fly-by-nighter I see here is mister Sexeducation himself. He already said he can't hire a lawyer, and something tells me even if he could, he wouldn't.. He's far too comfortable living in his delusionary dreamworld. I'm not posting in this thread again, I did want to state that. He'll figure it all out when he's behind bars.. I can see it now, his lawyer walking away shaking his head, and Mister Sexxeducation muttering Fluff and fodder and screaming NO AROUSED GENITALS OR BODILY FLUIDS ON ANY DIRECTLY ACCESSED DOMAIN... Sad little man.
Yes ...
That is it - but off topic.
No aroused genitals or reproductive bodily fluids on any directly accessed domain name.

You feel this is a threat to your pocket book?
And you may be temporarily right.

But IMO - this will come true.

The average adult content consumer is more then prepared to click on a 18+ button now. This is a good move for the adult industry to regain the respect of the consumer which has been lost. I don't feel this is a bad thing.

LadyMischief 07-13-2003 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation


Yes ...
That is it - but off topic.
No aroused genitals or reproductive bodily fluids on any directly accessed domain name.

You feel this is a threat to your pocket book?
And you may be temporarily right.

But IMO - this will come true.

The average adult content consumer is more then prepared to click on a 18+ button now. This is a good move for the adult industry to regain the respect of the consumer which has been lost. I don't feel this is a bad thing.

You are a complete moron if you think you will affect my pocketbook in ANY way directly... You mean less than a WORM in my world.. and a worm is useful, at least. You are so full of it you can't get over repeating your little mantras long enough to realize that you ARE WRONG. And you COMPLETELY missed my point, too. I almost feel sorry for the way you continually make a fool of yourself, and I feel you deserve everything you get if you keep subjecting yourself to it by continuing to open your woefully uninformed mouth.

Jakke PNG 07-13-2003 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation

You feel this is a threat to your pocket book?
And you may be temporarily right.

But IMO - this will come true.

The average adult content consumer is more then prepared to click on a 18+ button now. This is a good move for the adult industry to regain the respect of the consumer which has been lost. I don't feel this is a bad thing.

You LOVE talking about stuff you have no idea of, don't you?

KingK7 07-13-2003 07:48 AM

Jeez, you still here?

candyflip 07-13-2003 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation


Yes ...
That is it - but off topic.
No aroused genitals or reproductive bodily fluids on any directly accessed domain name.

You feel this is a threat to your pocket book?
And you may be temporarily right.

But IMO - this will come true.

The average adult content consumer is more then prepared to click on a 18+ button now. This is a good move for the adult industry to regain the respect of the consumer which has been lost. I don't feel this is a bad thing.

Sex Education and the Adult Business are not the same thing, and should not mix...especially when minors may be involved. They don't have to be. You should be able to present your "education" with out presenting porn at the same time.

I took classes in Junior High, High School and College that were "sex ed" classes. Not once did a teacher need to use pornography to illustrate a point.

LadyMischief 07-13-2003 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by candyflip


Sex Education and the Adult Business are not the same thing, and should not mix...especially when minors may be involved. They don't have to be. You should be able to present your "education" with out presenting porn at the same time.

I took classes in Junior High, High School and College that were "sex ed" classes. Not once did a teacher need to use pornography to illustrate a point.

And you just came to the root of the entire thing in one post ;) Btw, hit me up sweets!

sexeducation 07-13-2003 07:53 AM

I have to go "flip burgers" (work)... roflmao
but will be back again later/tomorrow.

Have a good day everyone.

John E. Beacock
[email protected]
1-403-619-2739

Gemini 07-13-2003 07:53 AM

You don't know what 'aff' stands for yet your a solid producer for sponsors? *smacking forehead*

Wouldn't know about a father flipping burgers. Mine retired as a Army Officer. ;-) P Was it YOUR Daddy that worked at Mickey D's?? If he did, I'm betting that SD just switched to Whoppers over Big Macs!

candyflip 07-13-2003 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LadyMischief


And you just came to the root of the entire thing in one post ;) Btw, hit me up sweets!

I'm heading down the lake for a few...my sea doo is calling my name and it's beautiful. Drop your ICQ digits here and I'll give you a shout when I get back.

Try not to miss "Dad" and I too much :Graucho

LadyMischief 07-13-2003 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by candyflip


I'm heading down the lake for a few...my sea doo is calling my name and it's beautiful. Drop your ICQ digits here and I'll give you a shout when I get back.

Try not to miss "Dad" and I too much :Graucho

ahahhaha wildo :P
3522039.

Cassie 07-13-2003 07:58 AM

people like this thrive off of the attention you are giving him. like n*cro, g*nod*de and the rest of the idiots of recent, just ignore him and he will go away. i promise:winkwink:

he will get bored talking to himself and find another source of amusement. for now, you are giving him all the amusment he needs in one day. dont fuel his appetite!

JFPdude 07-13-2003 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation


NO - I do not believe it is that simple.
Freedom of speech never is.

Intend to present - my research live here for discussion.

I do not want to be "blinded" by curses and swearing ... like I admit I was in other threads.

LadyMischief presented some valuable links - that I missed because of my "emotions". I would prefer this does not ocurr in this thread.


You know what ... screw it ... put up your sites as you see fit and as we see fit we will take them down.

I have watched how you are interpreting these laws after I even went so far as calling you long distance on my dime.

The law is laid out for a reason ... if you cannot afford an attorney on these matters and feel your "free speech" will cover you please feel free to post what you want.

We will feel free to have your sites pulled and possibly forever banned with ICANN.

A week of this and you still don't get what we are saying .... This is beyond pathetic and I have held my cool all through it as you know from the phone conversation.


Your tired of what you call fluff and fodder from us ... we are tired of explaining the same simple laws to you.



******* Go back to work folks nothing to see here !! *******

MattO 07-13-2003 08:45 AM

posted this last night but no one was interested, thought I'd put it here since the answer is in this thread



http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=152300

DJRCyberAVS 07-13-2003 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFPdude


You know what ... screw it ... put up your sites as you see fit and as we see fit we will take them down.

Yeah, hard to believe that after you called this stain on the industry, that he's still clueless.
SexEd

Quote:

The quality of my website is also irrelevant to whether on a whole - I a global magazine of sexual intercourse has a right to "quote" graphics used throughout the internet - as evidence of pornography's affect on society.
No, you have no right to quote/publish graphics you do not have a license for. Your 'website' does not fall within the fair use boundaries. If you can't understand that, then you need an attorney - it is that simple. Why do you think legal representaion costs money - because they are keeping you on the right side of the law. GFY is not the 'Legal Charity Organization'..... did you seen a sign on the way in which said 'Cheap Punk Ass, Get Free Legal Advice Here'.

Quote:

I can not afford to - otherwise I would.
I am not against the adult industry.
I do believe some changes need to be made though.
But you can afford to buy a shit load of domain names right? BUT can't afford a few cheap sets of licensed content? Changes need to be made? That comment coming from you is a classic. Stopping content theives as such is a good first step to take...

"No aroused genitals or reproductive bodily fluids on any directly accessed domain name."
Do me a favour please... fuck off making comment slike that. Stick to your topic and cut out the meaningless bollox.

CDSmith 07-13-2003 02:04 PM

Okay, so I went and had a look at this "sexecucation.com" site. I must say, truthfully it is a dog's breakfast. Huge-assed font for some reason, maybe for the sight-impaired? Much of what is written there looks to be nonsense and gibberish, many of his sentences aren't even a complete thought. I'm not sure how one can present themself as being a *teacher* or have anything to do with education when he can't even express a coherent thought. Why a surfer would be motivated to whip out their CC over a goofy page like that is beyond me.


Conclusion: el boneheado.

MadCap 07-13-2003 02:06 PM

DUDE FUCK OFF

malakajoe 07-13-2003 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation


I can not afford to - otherwise I would.
I am not against the adult industry.
I do believe some changes need to be made though.

Adults have a right to reasonable access to adult content.
Children have a right to reasonable access to the information age.

Somewhere - in between these two rights - is the new evolving adult industry.

Are you still saying you want minors to access your site? If you only had articles and helping..then that could be debated.

BUT you are still talking about having nude pictures on your site. You are promoting your site as an adult website, even if you state you aren't.

Get a fuckin clue.

malakajoe 07-13-2003 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by candyflip


Sex Education and the Adult Business are not the same thing, and should not mix...especially when minors may be involved. They don't have to be. You should be able to present your "education" with out presenting porn at the same time.

I took classes in Junior High, High School and College that were "sex ed" classes. Not once did a teacher need to use pornography to illustrate a point.

Very well said..but unforunately, this idiot thinks he knows how to teach...and will teach what he wants. He has no education in sexual education, just that he is a "dad" of a teenage son (by his own words).

I believe more than anything, this one part sums it up on this idiot. Even more than the stealing of content.

"Vaginal Orgasm is a lie" followed by "Majority of women cannot have a vaginal orgasm" followed by "It is a lie since the majority can't, so that is why I call it a lie".

The dude is so dumb he doesn't even understand a lie from a rarity. He is spreading false information, by his own admission.

One wish I have is for him to lose his site, and for someone that really wants to help and teach the truth of sexual education gets the site.

sexeducation 07-13-2003 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by candyflip


Sex Education and the Adult Business are not the same thing, and should not mix...especially when minors may be involved. They don't have to be. You should be able to present your "education" with out presenting porn at the same time.

I took classes in Junior High, High School and College that were "sex ed" classes. Not once did a teacher need to use pornography to illustrate a point.

Sex education is an adult concern. The "adult business" is affecting teenagers when they view aroused genitals and reproductive bodily fluids on directly accessed domains. Adults are concerned what teenagers are viewing on the internet. Do you really think - curious teenagers - close their eyes - and do not take your tours? Come on - grow up.

The same pictures presented in a medical book not considered porn - but presented as a TGP collection is porn. Learn the difference between porn, erotica and nude graphics.

More and more high schools are using "real" pictures to teach "internet savy" students. Get your facts straight.

sexeducation 07-13-2003 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by malakajoe


Very well said..but unforunately, this idiot thinks he knows how to teach...and will teach what he wants. He has no education in sexual education, just that he is a "dad" of a teenage son (by his own words).

I believe more than anything, this one part sums it up on this idiot. Even more than the stealing of content.

"Vaginal Orgasm is a lie" followed by "Majority of women cannot have a vaginal orgasm" followed by "It is a lie since the majority can't, so that is why I call it a lie".

The dude is so dumb he doesn't even understand a lie from a rarity. He is spreading false information, by his own admission.

One wish I have is for him to lose his site, and for someone that really wants to help and teach the truth of sexual education gets the site.

I present alternative forms of discussion/intercourse that Parents may optionally use for discussion with their teens.

Where the majority of people believe something - yet for the majority of people it does not happen - it is a global lie.
You're trying to split hairs.

Go ahead and buy the site - lets see if you can do a better job ...roflmao...

I will reply to the other posts ...
after a break...

MadCap 07-13-2003 05:16 PM

Man What are you still doing here you lame fuck this is an adult webmaster board. We've all seen enough sex to be educated.



SO GO THE FUCK AWAY YOU FUCKIN RE PEDO FUCK.......... FUCK OFF

FATPad 07-13-2003 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation


Where the majority of people believe something - yet for the majority of people it does not happen - it is a global lie.
You're trying to split hairs.

You're an idiot. :)

I believe in siamese twins. Siamese twins are not very common, most people are not born as siamese twins. According to you, siamese twins are now a global lie.

You might very well be the dumbest person on this board, and that is quite an accomplishment.

sexeducation 07-13-2003 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FATPad
You're an idiot. :)

I believe in siamese twins. Siamese twins are not very common, most people are not born as siamese twins. According to you, siamese twins are now a global lie.

You might very well be the dumbest person on this board, and that is quite an accomplishment.

I believe in siamese twins.
Most people believe in siamese twins.
Siamese twins are NOT a lie and do occur.

LadyMischief 07-13-2003 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation


Sex education is an adult concern. The "adult business" is affecting teenagers when they view aroused genitals and reproductive bodily fluids on directly accessed domains. Adults are concerned what teenagers are viewing on the internet. Do you really think - curious teenagers - close their eyes - and do not take your tours? Come on - grow up.

The same pictures presented in a medical book not considered porn - but presented as a TGP collection is porn. Learn the difference between porn, erotica and nude graphics.

More and more high schools are using "real" pictures to teach "internet savy" students. Get your facts straight.

You are a fucking piece of work, alright. The images that are on adult-oriented sites are FAR different than what would be found in ANY teaching textbook. I don't think guys in textbooks are anally piledriving pornstars... do you? I don't even ever recall seeing REAL images of coitus ANYWHERE. What the FUCK do you know about the adult industry? You have NOTHING to do with it. Would you fuck off already and stop pretending you know something? Your website is shit, you can't write for shit, your "ideas" are about as shitty as they come. You're just turning out to be a good old turdfest, aren't ya pal? The one ally you MIGHT have had YOU alienated with your own stupidity. YOu should be banned, and that's about it. I'm going to be contacting your sponsors again as well. Good fucking luck.

FATPad 07-13-2003 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation


I believe in siamese twins.
Most people believe in siamese twins.
Siamese twins are NOT a lie and do occur.

So do vaginal orgasms, fucknut.

MadCap 07-13-2003 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LadyMischief


You are a fucking piece of work, alright. The images that are on adult-oriented sites are FAR different than what would be found in ANY teaching textbook. I don't think guys in textbooks are anally piledriving pornstars... do you? I don't even ever recall seeing REAL images of coitus ANYWHERE. What the FUCK do you know about the adult industry? You have NOTHING to do with it. Would you fuck off already and stop pretending you know something? Your website is shit, you can't write for shit, your "ideas" are about as shitty as they come. You're just turning out to be a good old turdfest, aren't ya pal? The one ally you MIGHT have had YOU alienated with your own stupidity. YOu should be banned, and that's about it. I'm going to be contacting your sponsors again as well. Good fucking luck.

Couldnt have said it better myself:thumbsup

sexeducation 07-13-2003 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LadyMischief


You are a fucking piece of work, alright. The images that are on adult-oriented sites are FAR different than what would be found in ANY teaching textbook. I don't think guys in textbooks are anally piledriving pornstars... do you? I don't even ever recall seeing REAL images of coitus ANYWHERE. What the FUCK do you know about the adult industry? You have NOTHING to do with it. Would you fuck off already and stop pretending you know something? Your website is shit, you can't write for shit, your "ideas" are about as shitty as they come. You're just turning out to be a good old turdfest, aren't ya pal? The one ally you MIGHT have had YOU alienated with your own stupidity. YOu should be banned, and that's about it. I'm going to be contacting your sponsors again as well. Good fucking luck.

"I don't think guys in textbooks are anally piledriving pornstars... do you?"
NO but you see this in the tours available to teenagers everywhere without age verification and therefor it is a new concern that must be addressed by modern parents.

" I don't even ever recall seeing REAL images of coitus ANYWHERE."
Exactly - that is why this issue of pornography must be delt with in an open manner. Pornography is not real sex - I agree. I think this should be discussed. SexEducation.com is a global magazine of sexual intercourse.

No problem ...
This is a very emotional issue for all.
Me too.

sexeducation 07-13-2003 05:26 PM

Look ... I started at 4:00 AM its almost 6:30 ...
I really am just a Father ...
I would like to read and contemplate your answers ...
I really am trying to learn from this discussion ...

sexeducation 07-13-2003 05:32 PM

[ you're welcome ... ]

LadyMischief 07-13-2003 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation
Look ... I started at 4:00 AM its almost 6:30 ...
I really am just a Father ...
I would like to read and contemplate your answers ...
I really am trying to learn from this discussion ...

Ask yourself this.. Would you actually take your own kid through your website? And if so, you're a sicko.. Talking about sex openly is one thing.. Exposing minors to sexually oriented materials is illegal. It's called sexual interferance, it will put you in jail. It's wrong. You are a crackhead.

sexeducation 07-13-2003 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LadyMischief


Ask yourself this.. Would you actually take your own kid through your website? And if so, you're a sicko.. Talking about sex openly is one thing.. Exposing minors to sexually oriented materials is illegal. It's called sexual interferance, it will put you in jail. It's wrong. You are a crackhead.

I will reply to you ...
but not tonight ...
The reason is .. FJPDude said you were quite knowledgable in the industry ... I believe him .. and I believe him about you ... I think it is just your emotions right now ...

What we are discussing is a very controversial subject.
I recommend you collect your thoughts ...

sexeducation 07-14-2003 05:36 AM

Many of the links on the
Standford University Article ...
http://fairuse.stanford.edu/articles/
do not seem to be working.

However ...
This appears to be a good website for the basics on "fair use".

http://www.nolo.com
Their slogon is
Over 30 years - putting the law into plain english.

I don't have time right now to study AND post replys.
This morning is a study morning at that website.

Dad@

LadyMischief 07-14-2003 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation


I will reply to you ...
but not tonight ...
The reason is .. FJPDude said you were quite knowledgable in the industry ... I believe him .. and I believe him about you ... I think it is just your emotions right now ...

What we are discussing is a very controversial subject.
I recommend you collect your thoughts ...

I recommend you prepare yourself for a long jail term. You tell me it's time to change MY thinking? Sorry pal, you don't know SHIT. You better start "upgrading" your thinking, because your current mindset is going to make you bubba's bitch.

Webby 07-14-2003 05:43 AM

sexeducation:
Quote:

Many of the links on the
Standford University Article ...
http://fairuse.stanford.edu/articles/
do not seem to be working.

However ...
This appears to be a good website for the basics on "fair use".

http://www.nolo.com
Their slogon is
Over 30 years - putting the law into plain english.

I don't have time right now to study AND post replys.
This morning is a study morning at that website.

Dad@

Once again.. you are a child pornographer, liar, thief, and sex offender - sue my ass off!

Study morning at where??? You don't have a website idiot! Tis a shell of very bad HTML!

Fuck off out of GFY scumbag!!




Gemini 07-14-2003 05:52 AM

putting the law into plain english....

It might be a great site to help someone understand what an attorney has told them, but don't EVER believe that you can read Law in English or Legalese and think yourself profficient in interpreting how the Legal System interprets it. Why do you think it takes so long to get thru lawschool?? The days of Abraham Lincolns' reading Blackstone and then practicing law passed well over 100 years ago. :warning

sexeducation 07-14-2003 05:56 AM

This is an excellent website ...
http://www.nolo.com/lawcenter/ency/a...12FE5C119B5806

Here is one of five basic rules posted on that page ...

"Rule 2: Don't Compete With the Source You're Copying From

Without consent, you ordinarily cannot use another person's protected expression in a way that impairs (or even potentially impairs) the market for his or her work. Thus, if you want to use an author's protected expression in a work of your own that is similar to the prior work and aimed at the same market, your intended use isn't likely a fair use."


So it appears - if I am in the "adult business" AND quote the expressions of the "adult business" - which could interfere with another website's "potential market" then "fair use" WOULD NOT apply.

It appears - that I may have to make a decision - to GET OUT of the adult business - if I wish to discuss the adult business.
You guys may get your wish afterall... : )

I have not decided yet - what the new business model of SexEducation.com will be.

Somehow - I have to make the website self supporting.
And I have not been able to do that for many years.
And I have tried many many ways ...

Got to get ready for work.
Have a great day everyone.

Dad@

PS: I love this UBB - if I had the bucks I would install one on SexEducation.ORG or create a board.SexEducation.com or something.

MattO 07-14-2003 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation

It appears - that I may have to make a decision - to GET OUT of the adult business -


FUCKING GO


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