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Pornkings · 07-11-2003, 04:38 PM

I see alot of webmaster worried about the new visa regs and the impact it has on the industry. all its doing is cleaning it up. basically a shakedown. many people are calling me worried when there is nothing to worry about. if the sponsors takes whatever measures needed to keep them in business and they understand how to keep there chargebacks down they will be fine.
every sponsor is uniq in what it takes for them to do that.

as far as affiliates go...TGP's, avs's,mailers,SE webmasters etc.
you guys are going to have to be careful in the programs you choose.
Some programs might keep there higher payouts but only pay on active.
some will lower payouts and membership costs if paying on a trial.
but they will have to restructure there site model so it converts better. etc. I'm sure every sponsor is going t do there best to make there webmasters the most. that is the name of the game
we all want your business

there are many factors that you need to keep in consideration when sending to a program.( don't just look at the Payout)

Like I have said may times your best bet is to choose a sponsor who tweaks there sites, text, join pages etc. continuously to keep the conversions good . and works with the webmasters keeping them informed.
the sponsor has to work on retaining them to profit. everyone has there own models or way of doin things. choose the one that make you the most.
Don't worry about the payouts its about the bottom line.

try every sponsor out till you find a good match don't rely on what others do or say about a sponsor. do your own home work.

we are all here to make the webmasters as much as possible and to stay in business.
the payouts don't mean much if the sponsor is doin his job with his sites and converting your traffic to make you the most possible

We have paid $25 on Porn4abuck and have a steady following because the conversions are good.
I will be lowering the payouts on our paid trial program but tweaking things to make that program keep the same steady income for our webmasters. It's always been a never ending battle.
our Free trial programs will be Pulled next week and we will inform all our affiliates using it before it happens.

I would rather send to a program paying $20 on a trial that converts my traffic at 1/400 first page
then a program who pays $40 on a trial converting 1/1000 first page.

also find out if they count first page or second page etc.

do your homework and you will be fine.

If anyone has questions feel free to hit either me or Sean up at Pornkings. we will be more then happy to help you.

it takes two in this biz to make a dollar. the webmaster sending traffic and the progam converting it. it helps to work together.
the way you send traffic or target it to a program means everything.

I wish everyone luck and another great year

Juicy D. Links · 07-11-2003, 04:38 PM

King ,

You got a abridged version?

Spunky · 07-11-2003, 04:39 PM

No matter what we are getting fucked in the ass by the man...it's discrimination.

dantheman · 07-11-2003, 04:39 PM

hell that was worth a nickel

MetaMan · 07-11-2003, 04:40 PM

its called a summary

afrocreep · 07-11-2003, 04:40 PM

i never learned how to read

freeme · 07-11-2003, 04:42 PM

verry good post Pornkings

MetaMan · 07-11-2003, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by afrocreep
i never learned how to read

are you polish>?

Pornkings · 07-11-2003, 04:50 PM

Sorry I just kept typing there was to much i wanted to get out

Basically its your job to find out what sponsor makes you the most.
don't just focus on the payouts is all I'm saying and pick sponsors who are in this for the long run and willing to work with you.

newbiz · 07-11-2003, 05:39 PM

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Pornkings · 07-11-2003, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by newbiz
Try this sponsor! CapitalBucks! Pornkings does!

Yea boy

kisskatlyn · 07-11-2003, 08:31 PM

porn king I agree...I am launching a paysite in september and I am not worried. All this does is force me to do it right from the beginning and make sure that i offer a quality product so that I don't have charge backs, etc! If I can't make it with the new regs, trying my very hardest, then I never would have made it at all in the first place.

~katlyn~
my

Rick Latona · 07-12-2003, 08:55 PM

You are a smart guy, Roger.

CDSmith · 07-12-2003, 09:02 PM

Ra-Ra speaks the truth

Just send test traffic to a variety of sponsors, enough to find out if you can convert them with your advertising methods. Promote the ones that work, regardless of what their payout is.
100 signups x $20 is better than 30 signups x $35.

It's that simple.

07-11-2003, 04:38 PM	#1
Pornkings Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Roger V Posts: 5,334	Just my 2 cents I see alot of webmaster worried about the new visa regs and the impact it has on the industry. all its doing is cleaning it up. basically a shakedown. many people are calling me worried when there is nothing to worry about. if the sponsors takes whatever measures needed to keep them in business and they understand how to keep there chargebacks down they will be fine. every sponsor is uniq in what it takes for them to do that. as far as affiliates go...TGP's, avs's,mailers,SE webmasters etc. you guys are going to have to be careful in the programs you choose. Some programs might keep there higher payouts but only pay on active. some will lower payouts and membership costs if paying on a trial. but they will have to restructure there site model so it converts better. etc. I'm sure every sponsor is going t do there best to make there webmasters the most. that is the name of the game we all want your business there are many factors that you need to keep in consideration when sending to a program.( don't just look at the Payout) Like I have said may times your best bet is to choose a sponsor who tweaks there sites, text, join pages etc. continuously to keep the conversions good . and works with the webmasters keeping them informed. the sponsor has to work on retaining them to profit. everyone has there own models or way of doin things. choose the one that make you the most. Don't worry about the payouts its about the bottom line. try every sponsor out till you find a good match don't rely on what others do or say about a sponsor. do your own home work. we are all here to make the webmasters as much as possible and to stay in business. the payouts don't mean much if the sponsor is doin his job with his sites and converting your traffic to make you the most possible We have paid $25 on Porn4abuck and have a steady following because the conversions are good. I will be lowering the payouts on our paid trial program but tweaking things to make that program keep the same steady income for our webmasters. It's always been a never ending battle. our Free trial programs will be Pulled next week and we will inform all our affiliates using it before it happens. I would rather send to a program paying $20 on a trial that converts my traffic at 1/400 first page then a program who pays $40 on a trial converting 1/1000 first page. also find out if they count first page or second page etc. do your homework and you will be fine. If anyone has questions feel free to hit either me or Sean up at Pornkings. we will be more then happy to help you. it takes two in this biz to make a dollar. the webmaster sending traffic and the progam converting it. it helps to work together. the way you send traffic or target it to a program means everything. I wish everyone luck and another great year __________________ Pornkings.com Last edited by Pornkings; 07-11-2003 at 04:57 PM..

07-11-2003, 04:39 PM	#3
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07-11-2003, 04:50 PM	#9
Pornkings Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Roger V Posts: 5,334	Sorry I just kept typing there was to much i wanted to get out Basically its your job to find out what sponsor makes you the most. don't just focus on the payouts is all I'm saying and pick sponsors who are in this for the long run and willing to work with you. __________________ Pornkings.com

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07-11-2003, 04:38 PM	#2
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	King , You got a abridged version?

07-11-2003, 04:40 PM	#5
MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	its called a summary

07-11-2003, 04:40 PM	#6
afrocreep Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: ON, Canada Posts: 1,074	i never learned how to read

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freeme Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 924	verry good post Pornkings

07-11-2003, 08:31 PM	#12
kisskatlyn Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 433	porn king I agree...I am launching a paysite in september and I am not worried. All this does is force me to do it right from the beginning and make sure that i offer a quality product so that I don't have charge backs, etc! If I can't make it with the new regs, trying my very hardest, then I never would have made it at all in the first place. ~katlyn~ my

07-12-2003, 08:55 PM	#13
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07-12-2003, 09:02 PM	#14
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	Ra-Ra speaks the truth Just send test traffic to a variety of sponsors, enough to find out if you can convert them with your advertising methods. Promote the ones that work, regardless of what their payout is. 100 signups x $20 is better than 30 signups x $35. It's that simple. __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634