Payouts Falling: Will Hosting And Design Rates Restructure For Webmasters? - GoFuckYourself.com

Platinum Lantern · 07-11-2003, 07:10 AM

We all know payout rates are about to drop, will hosting and designe rates restructure to these ever changing times?

candyflip · 07-11-2003, 07:24 AM

I don't think design pricing can get much cheaper. Lots of foreign designers who can afford to cut their prices already have...forcing those who really shouldn't be cutting their prices to do so.

I've seen people pushing cheap paysite designs for $200. Doesn't get much cheaper than that.

bhutocracy · 07-11-2003, 07:26 AM

profits aren't really going to drop that much.

KRL · 07-11-2003, 07:27 AM

No in fact it could go up as people pay a premium for new designs that convert without all the FREE FREE stuff in the pitch.

Jakke PNG · 07-11-2003, 07:27 AM

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Originally posted by candyflip
I don't think design pricing can get much cheaper. Lots of foreign designers who can afford to cut their prices already have..

Umm.. okay, what has foreign gotta do with this?
Europe is probably more expensive than US, and also USD is being so low I see only rising prices from foreign designers.
There's newbie designers everywhere, probably more in the US than elsewhere. But this is just a quick point, I haven't thought about this. I might be wrong.

liquidmoe · 07-11-2003, 08:42 AM

Its all supply and demand. If prices keep dropping quality and service will certainly drop, the people who dont mind the drop in quality and services will pay less, while those that can't stand the drop in quality wont mind paying extra. I mean in th elast couple of months what has really happened that has knocked design prices down greatly. As for hosting prices I think if anything they will probably rise just because prior to this they have been falling, they are just about bottomed out and the result is that a lot of hosting is having problems, poor support, poor uptime, so the people that need support and up time pay a little extra.

getpaid · 07-11-2003, 08:44 AM

are you reading old posts and just rewriting them?

DaLord · 07-11-2003, 08:57 AM

No. I can't go any lower without getting my ass kicked.

Snake Doctor · 07-11-2003, 09:06 AM

Hosting and design prices are already at all time lows....I don't see them dropping.
Bottom line is your margins will probably be thinner with the lower payouts. You might make up for it with volume, and then again you might not. Time will tell.

What will drop is the price of traffic. Everyone paying per click from the SE's is going to experience the same drop in payouts so they'll all have to drop their bids on keywords to a lower per click price.

Also paid listings on TGP's should become less expensive IMO.

There will be a lot of changes in ALL parts of this business over the next 6 months or so, this isn't just going to affect the big boys.

easyfun · 07-11-2003, 09:08 AM

Content supplyers and designers are charging as low as it can get already - I don't think it will get much lower -

The new Visa regs are not going to make us all poorer - I am certain it will revive the industry -

If free joins are forced out - And cross sales follow suit, then surfer confidence will come back and he will start joining sites again.

Many potential members are keeping the cc cards in their ass pockets because they end up paying a fair old whack for what was initially a free join - And as he has been cross-sold to other sites (often without fully realising it), also, he now has his email box jammed full with daily spam, then it is hardly surprising the growth rate of this industry has grown considerable less than all forcasts expected.

This industry should be self regulating - Unfortunately, greed gets in the way of logic.

Trax2 · 07-11-2003, 09:08 AM

a wise man once said

you get what you pay for!

i wanna see the guy who does decent paysite design for 200 bucks

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Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	Hosting and design prices are already at all time lows....I don't see them dropping. Bottom line is your margins will probably be thinner with the lower payouts. You might make up for it with volume, and then again you might not. Time will tell. What will drop is the price of traffic. Everyone paying per click from the SE's is going to experience the same drop in payouts so they'll all have to drop their bids on keywords to a lower per click price. Also paid listings on TGP's should become less expensive IMO. There will be a lot of changes in ALL parts of this business over the next 6 months or so, this isn't just going to affect the big boys. __________________ sig too big

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easyfun Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 731	Content supplyers and designers are charging as low as it can get already - I don't think it will get much lower - The new Visa regs are not going to make us all poorer - I am certain it will revive the industry - If free joins are forced out - And cross sales follow suit, then surfer confidence will come back and he will start joining sites again. Many potential members are keeping the cc cards in their ass pockets because they end up paying a fair old whack for what was initially a free join - And as he has been cross-sold to other sites (often without fully realising it), also, he now has his email box jammed full with daily spam, then it is hardly surprising the growth rate of this industry has grown considerable less than all forcasts expected. This industry should be self regulating - Unfortunately, greed gets in the way of logic. __________________ <p><embed width="120" height="60" src="http://www.harlotcash.com/harlot_3.swf"><br> </p>

07-11-2003, 07:26 AM	#3
bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	profits aren't really going to drop that much.

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liquidmoe Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 4,994	Its all supply and demand. If prices keep dropping quality and service will certainly drop, the people who dont mind the drop in quality and services will pay less, while those that can't stand the drop in quality wont mind paying extra. I mean in th elast couple of months what has really happened that has knocked design prices down greatly. As for hosting prices I think if anything they will probably rise just because prior to this they have been falling, they are just about bottomed out and the result is that a lot of hosting is having problems, poor support, poor uptime, so the people that need support and up time pay a little extra.

07-11-2003, 08:44 AM	#7
getpaid Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Vegas Posts: 18	are you reading old posts and just rewriting them?

07-11-2003, 08:57 AM	#8
DaLord Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,318	No. I can't go any lower without getting my ass kicked.

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Trax2 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 16	a wise man once said you get what you pay for! i wanna see the guy who does decent paysite design for 200 bucks