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JMM 07-11-2003 02:30 PM

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Originally posted by VideoJ


Why? What we're doing is quite legal, even the officer said so. The only issue is whether we're licensed for it and if I wanted to spend the money I could fight it in the courts and get the license. I got better things to do with my money.

We're in the middle of 7.5 acres of wooded property (Gregg has it wrong). If there is any impact on the neighbors when we're shooting I'd be amazed. We picked this place for just that reason.

If JMM is one of the smartest fuckers you know, that doesn't say a whole lot for your associates. JMM thinks he 's a wit, he's only half right.

I NEVER said that producing pornography in Broward county is illegal, did I?

I said producing it on a regular basis in a residential neighborhood is illegal, which apparently it is. It is also wrong from a moral/ethical/common sense viewpoint.

As for your halfwit comment..just brilliant. Did you just make that up, because I have never heard that joke before. Again, I must say brilliant. Next you are going to ask me why the chicken crossed the road. Hurry and give me the answer because I can't wait to laugh some more.

I'm done with you guys. Gregg, Arm, you, your only answer is to call me a dumb motherfucker, which speaks volumes about you, not me.

Babaganoosh 07-11-2003 02:33 PM

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Originally posted by JMM


How does it affect the neighbors?????????? You don't understand how it affects the neighbors?

Do you have children?

It doesn't matter if I have kids or not. What I do in my house is my business (assuming it doesn't break any laws). You sound like one of those idiots who tries to run a gay couple out of a neighborhood because sodomy is immoral. We're not talking about morals here. We're talking about laws. I higly doubt Gregg is inviting the neighborhood kids over for cookies and porn.

freeme 07-11-2003 02:34 PM

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Originally posted by Armed & Hammered


over for cookies and porn.

new menu at my party

cookies and porn

would you like milk with your porn???


:1orglaugh

JMM 07-11-2003 02:34 PM

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Originally posted by VideoJ


Why? What we're doing is quite legal, even the officer said so. The only issue is whether we're licensed for it and if I wanted to spend the money I could fight it in the courts and get the license. I got better things to do with my money.


I got $500 that says you will NEVER have a license to produce hardcore porn in that house. Produce a permanent business license that shows you do and I will paypal the funds.

freeme 07-11-2003 02:36 PM

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Originally posted by JMM


I got $500 that says you will NEVER have a license to produce hardcore porn in that house. Produce a permanent business license that shows you do and I will paypal the funds.

occupational license count???

BradShaw 07-11-2003 02:38 PM

owned by jmm.

GotGauge 07-11-2003 02:57 PM

You guys are forgetting,
These are not In town living on tp of each other houses.....LOL

He has two-acre rural house......

I make fun of the people that buy 100K house and have about 2 feet of lawn shared with anothe 100K house and so on....

GotGauge 07-11-2003 03:07 PM

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Originally posted by JMM


How does it affect the neighbors?????????? You don't understand how it affects the neighbors?

Do you have children?

What does children matter?

I didn't see anything about nudity being outside?
Everything is taking place inside the house, 2 acres rual house I might add.

Do the kids need to know what is going on inside the house?
Do you drive by a strip club and tell them what is going on inside there?

If there is sexual acts taking place outside where children can see, then it is wrong......

I have a friend that lives right beside a food bank.
Cars and People coming and going all day.
I assume they are getting food, but I have no idea what is going
on inside...

freeadultcontent 07-11-2003 03:20 PM

My :2 cents: Since this is a private dwelling, everyone is concenting adults, and this is a form of expression and all.

"Liberty protects the person from unwarranted government intrusions into a dwelling or other private places. In our tradition the State is not omnipresent in the home. And there are other spheres of our lives and existence, outside the home, where the State should not be a dominant presence. Freedom extends beyond spatial bounds. Liberty presumes an autonomy of self that includes freedom of thought, belief, expression, and certain intimate conduct. The instant case involves liberty of the person both in its spatial and more transcendent dimensions."

Justice Kennedy - June 26, 2003

Ok I will shut up now.

VideoJ 07-11-2003 03:40 PM

JMM couldn't own me if he had the intelligence and wealth of Bill Gates.

JMM, sarcasm should be subtle and pointed, not heavy handed and repetitive.

And are you licensed to practice law in the state of Florida and are you familiar with the cases regarding zoning and adult businesses here? If you're not, why are you showing your ignorance? My comments are based on my research and my discussions with lawyers who practice here.

Regarding the children, that's the one area I agree with everyone. I do NOT permit any children on my property and the house is set so far back that the only way anyone can find out what is going on is to jump a fence and be on the property. I do not want children exposed to what we do here, this is for adults only.

That being said, what I do in the privacy of my home is my business so long as it doesn't have an impact on my neighbors. And unless they have x-ray vision or are tresspassing they can't know what I'm doing. I'm sure my neighbors do things I don't agree with, but I don't care as long as they don't expose me to their personal life.

VideoJ 07-11-2003 03:44 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw
"even the officer said so"


It may come down to a judge, not an officer it looks like. I would not rely on an officer for legal advice.

No I don't rely on officer's opinions on legal matters, but if you knew the history of the law and adult entertainment here in Broward county, this was a very telling statment.

afrocreep 07-11-2003 03:46 PM

Maude Flanders:
Won't somebody please think of the children?!

http://www.thesimpsons.com/bios/images/maude_angel.jpg


Wanna know what i think of the children? I think their parents should teach them something.


I mean its not like gregg was running a petting zoo for kids, wtf are they doing on his private property in the first place? if that has even ever happened! Some dumb Maude Flanders will make shit up say kids watched anal through a window or something. I highly doubt it.


Hey gregg remember that time you spent 8 hours on the middle of the street filming that gangbang? Neither do i...

PhotoGreggXXX 07-11-2003 03:51 PM

Hmmm....had to look at Jmm's content site and of course I have to laugh...all his morality bullshit and here I see Dave Cummings selling his content on the site...many sets in an outdoor setting...Just wondering what kind of "wharehouse" has a yard like that ?

Obviously this idiot is slamming our content for making it outdoors in a private yard...and he is selling the same thing on his site....so dumbass...you want a hat saying "I'm a dumbass"...give me your address

By the way, we're shooting at a miami condo tomorrow...yep...there's neighbors...maybe kids, but they happen to be within every block of anywhere there is a building in this country...duhhhhh

freeadultcontent 07-11-2003 03:52 PM

Honestly it is covered in what I posted, try going above the US Supreme Court.

Lil hint, it was not just about sodomy.

When you go into zoning or running a business from your home, then its a lil different. Yet I guarentee you that a large percentage of the residents around you do it as well.

From bringing some work home from the office, to making deals on the phone, to catering. I promise you they are in the same violation. Will they kick them all out as well?

Adult Zoning goes into having customers coming and going, and traffic. It was set up because it can cause blight in an area or be a haven for unwanted individuals lurking arounds (i.e. higher crime rates) None of which you are even doing.

This is not a porn case, it is not an adult case, hell this isnt even a case.

freeme 07-11-2003 03:59 PM

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Originally posted by freeadultcontent
Honestly it is covered in what I posted, try going above the US Supreme Court.

Lil hint, it was not just about sodomy.

When you go into zoning or running a business from your home, then its a lil different. Yet I guarentee you that a large percentage of the residents around you do it as well.

From bringing some work home from the office, to making deals on the phone, to catering. I promise you they are in the same violation. Will they kick them all out as well?

Adult Zoning goes into having customers coming and going, and traffic. It was set up because it can cause blight in an area or be a haven for unwanted individuals lurking arounds (i.e. higher crime rates) None of which you are even doing.

This is not a porn case, it is not an adult case, hell this isnt even a case.

EXCELLENT POST and point!!

gregg shoot here when ever you need bro

2 houses no waiting

:thumbsup

JMM 07-11-2003 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by PhotoGreggXXX
Hmmm....had to look at Jmm's content site and of course I have to laugh...all his morality bullshit and here I see Dave Cummings selling his content on the site...many sets in an outdoor setting...Just wondering what kind of "wharehouse" has a yard like that ?

Obviously this idiot is slamming our content for making it outdoors in a private yard...and he is selling the same thing on his site....so dumbass...you want a hat saying "I'm a dumbass"...give me your address

By the way, we're shooting at a miami condo tomorrow...yep...there's neighbors...maybe kids, but they happen to be within every block of anywhere there is a building in this country...duhhhhh

I have gone from stupid motherfucker, to dumbass and idiot. Your communication skills overwhelm me.

Gregg...did I say any disparaging remarks about you? Can you have an intelligent conversation without resorting to such?

Can you read? If you can read, do you have the ability to comprehend the words that you do read?

Did I ever say shooting outside was wrong? No. Many shoot outside. You want to attack Dave, take your best shot, there is probably not a more honest, concerned, ethical person in this business than Dave Cummings. Shooting outdoors in a controlled situation is a FAR CRY from operating a hardcore studio on a regular, daily basis in a residential neighborhood. The two are nothing alike. I can guarantee you that when Dave shoots outdoors it is a controlled situation.

You said that you interview and hire models daily. Do these models come to your studio or are these phone internviews? You and I both know that the women/men that do this work are not always the highest caliber of people. Do you think that just maybe the people living in these homes, raising their families in these homes have a right to do this without having to be exposed to this? Of course they do. Do you think that the woman mentioned in the article has a right to raise her children, letting them play in their neighborhood, without having to worry about what her children may stumble upon while playing in their neighborhood? Of course she does.

I have no problem with what you do. I have no problem with how you do it. My problem is WHERE you do it. My comment was simple, a residential neighborhood is no place for a hardcore studio to operate on a regular basis, day in, and day out. If this is so hard to understand, then I am stumped on how to make it more clear.

I still am curious how a 2.26 acre property has a 3 acre backyard. Better yet, 7.5 wooded acres.

Go ahead..respond in your normal style. You have already used stupid motherfucker, idiot, and dumbass. I look forward to what comes next.

afrocreep 07-11-2003 04:17 PM

fuck off and die already jmm

PhotoGreggXXX 07-11-2003 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by afrocreep
fuck off and die already jmm
hahaha
have to agree with you afrocreep...this guy has no clue :)

He sells content done in backyards of residential neighborhoods like mine and then bitches about someone else doing it....hahahha...okay JMM...going to have to add "retard" to your list of names :)

afrocreep 07-11-2003 04:25 PM

i don't even care what the fuck if anything or how often jmm does. i could care less.

Webby 07-11-2003 04:29 PM

Sheesh... what a load of crap over some licence re property use!!

It ain't exactly an executable offense.. least not yet! :1orglaugh

Good luck PhotoGreggXXX !

JMM 07-11-2003 04:29 PM

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Originally posted by afrocreep
i don't even care what the fuck if anything or how often jmm does. i could care less.
HAHAHAHAHAHA. You are hardly even literate.

"I could care less" means that you do care.

The correct expression is "I couldn't care less".

Now go tell your mommy you are grounded for a week.

afrocreep 07-11-2003 04:34 PM

riiiight, dude you sound like yer 12.

how do you like dem apples?

VideoJ 07-11-2003 05:40 PM

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http://www.miami.com/images/miami/m...39406873183.jpg

Is that the house? Did the photographer fail to capture the gates and fences?
Uhm, you've heard of telephoto lens, haven't you? The fence and gate are there, the photographer shot over them.

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You honestly want someone to believe that a scream cannot be heard from 200 yards?
I've checked it. I've stood at hte front of the house to make sure our noise couldn't be heard from the road. We're talking a cement block house and lot's of trees.
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I'm also curious about your ability to cram 50 pounds of shit into a 25 pound bag. The property you were using is 2.26 acres. Can you enlighten GFY how you were able to fit a 3 acre backyard into a property that is only 2.26 acres??
Get the math right, we're talking a 33.3 pound bag of shit. And while I haven't checked the lot size, I was told it's about 2.5 acres which is the number I use. The 2.5 acre lot on one side is a tree farm with no house and occasional workers. The other side is a 2.5 acre nursrey storage area with trucks, palettes and scafolding in the back and trees in the front. So we're smack in the middle of 7.5 acres with no houses except for mine. If you don't believe me, go to http://terraserver-usa.com/ and enter our address from the article and look for yourself.

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Do you think that just maybe the people living in these homes, raising their families in these homes have a right to do this without having to be exposed to this?
How are they being "exposed" to it. These people show up, they visit our house, they leave. Nobody sees anything they don't want to. And wait, do I get to pick who gets to visit my neighbors? They're running businesses too, you know. I don't like the looks of the guy who kills the weeds at the tree farm, can I call the cops on him? He looks a lot scarier then our talent!

VirtuMike 07-11-2003 06:51 PM

Yeah let's not forget the landscaping company. They're operating on the next door neighbor's house, outdoors, with loud equipment, AND FOR A COMMERCIAL PURPOSE.

I remember when I used to live in America, land of the free. Now I live in America, land of the oppressed.

I also remember the communist scare. Where's that asshole McCarthy now? He'd set this place straight as soon as he realized that we are now living in a communistic country. Or he'd just accuse me of being a communist for saying that. Which, in retrospect, is a communist thing to do.

Anyway, I'd like to see Photogregg with a parabolic mic listening to the neighbors on their phones taking business calls at home and start oppressing the rest of the neighborhood in the same way they seek to oppress us.

Fucking oppressionists.

Dravyk 07-11-2003 07:52 PM

For years -- make that decades -- I hear of photos renting houses and mansions for shoots. I'm betting everyone here has at least some kind of that content, beautiful model in a mansion.

So where does one draw the line? Is it ok if it's on a hill? In another country? If it has a high wall around it?

Is it still "residential" anyplace there is a mansion, I'd assume so since someone lives there? Does it need 100 acres of land before it's tolerable? Should it be on a private island only? Do photogs have to build million dollar sets in warehouses from now on?

Come on, wanna here some answers on just where the "line" is supposed to be and where it's supposedly crossed.

tony286 07-11-2003 09:44 PM

A few thoughts, never met you Gregg but really like your work. Would love to intern for you for a week, I know I could learn so much. The thing I dont understand if you are doing well why not have a office to run the business out of and then shoot where ever you want. I used to watch family business seymours butts ran the business out of a office including interviewing the actors and actresses. Then it looked like he did most of the shooting at his house. Its not like Miami is anti porn you have Score operating in a business park next to Sony and you a bunch of other big sites hard core sites down there. I think you should be able to do what you want in your house but if you are hiring people with shady pasts thats a tough one because you are them introducing them to that neighborhood. I am lucky most of our people are people with very normal lives but want to get a kick. I hope this works out for you :)

GotGauge 07-11-2003 09:55 PM

shady people, LOL
Shady people at the food bank --- houses around
Shady people at Church --- houses around
Shady people at the blood or plasma bank --- houses around

Most studios are in a business area downtown, so you want the shady people downtown around othe Busy business, man that is bad for business, they might steal something, or if they find out it is porn........ LOL you get what I am saying, it is all bullshit no matter how you pile it.


Most people, are in need of money that take pics on a more amateur level, No one here needs to think otherwise.

I don't see a rich girl, say hey let me bang that guy, you take pics, and I will do it for free since I am rich...

GirlsWithTickets.com

p00p 07-11-2003 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by tony404
The thing I dont understand if you are doing well why not have a office to run the business out of and then shoot where ever you want.
The answer is obvious.....

=^..^= 07-11-2003 10:42 PM

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Originally posted by GotGauge


What does children matter?

I didn't see anything about nudity being outside?
Everything is taking place inside the house, 2 acres rual house I might add.

Do the kids need to know what is going on inside the house?
Do you drive by a strip club and tell them what is going on inside there?

If there is sexual acts taking place outside where children can see, then it is wrong......


fukineh!
This dumbbitch talking about "sexual preadtors"
there are no predators - just consenting adults fucking and making some cash from it

almost EVERY case i've heard about pedophiles in my country - the offender was a priest politician or doctor
whereas all the pornographers I know are striaght down the line - hell they see enuff T&a all day trhey're sick of it haha - and ppl who work in "mainstream" jobs are more than happy to let these guys babysit their kids... but they wouldnt let their kid attend a catholic school :1orglaugh

its all fucked up

anyhow best of luck with it all guys and we wont let it dampen the party!!! :thumbsup

tony286 07-12-2003 07:40 AM

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Originally posted by p00p

The answer is obvious.....


Please inform me I am slow lol

berg.the.red 07-12-2003 02:26 PM

Good Luck Gregg. hope all of this works out for the best !!


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