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Paul Markham · 07-09-2003, 08:16 PM

Iraq weapons 'unlikely to be found'

Title says it all.

Not sure if they are reporting this everywhere else.

Paul Markham · 07-09-2003, 08:18 PM

But Blair is still bluffing it out.

Self confidence or delusion?

SexySarah · 07-09-2003, 08:18 PM

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Originally posted by charly
But Blair is still bluffing it out.

Self confidence or delusion?

He's lost the fucking plot.

KRL · 07-09-2003, 08:21 PM

It really doesn't matter. The mission to get Iraq's Oil and knock Saddam off his throne has been accomplished. All the political bullshit will fade with time.

We won. He's fucked. End of story.

SexySarah · 07-09-2003, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
It really doesn't matter. The mission to get Iraq's Oil and knock Saddam off his throne has been accomplished. All the political bullshit will fade with time.

We won. He's fucked. End of story.

Doesn't the 'small' fact that your elected officials flat out lied to you (or at the very least - deliberately misled you) bother you at all?

Do you enjoy being duped by the people that are meant to govern 'for the people'?

I was always under the impression the US was a democracy.

Maybe not any more.

cosis · 07-09-2003, 08:25 PM

You thought they would find WMD?

Big Nath · 07-09-2003, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
It really doesn't matter. The mission to get Iraq's Oil and knock Saddam off his throne has been accomplished. All the political bullshit will fade with time.

We won. He's fucked. End of story.

Nobody wins in a war dickwit !!

But yeah i agree with you, who cares about weapons of mass destruction, saddam has been opressing people for too long.

Heaven forbid that we could remove a tyranist from power for not allowing his people the same basic rights that we have, freedom.

Fuck the oil and fuck everything else, at least the iraqi people will have the choice to decide who runs the country now and can live in what should be one of the richest countries on the face of the planet.

Even the bible has passages pertaining to iraq (well the areas that iraq now controls) and how beautiful it was and that it was paradise on earth.

just my

SexySarah · 07-09-2003, 08:28 PM

And before anyone mentions it, the big difference with Kosovo is we went in for the reason we were told.

Not blinkered by bullshit.

I'd like to know why the American population is so docile and easily led?

HEARTBREAKER · 07-09-2003, 08:29 PM

they're useless!!

Paul Markham · 07-09-2003, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
It really doesn't matter. The mission to get Iraq's Oil and knock Saddam off his throne has been accomplished. All the political bullshit will fade with time.

We won. He's fucked. End of story.

End of story?

This story has a lot more chapters to go. Would you like to see a trend of Presidents going to war to line their own pockets?

cosis · 07-09-2003, 08:30 PM

It's all about the oil

KRL · 07-09-2003, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SexySarah

Doesn't the 'small' fact that your elected officials flat out lied to you (or at the very least - deliberately misled you) bother you at all?

Do you enjoy being duped by the people that are meant to govern 'for the people'?

I was always under the impression the US was a democracy.

Maybe not any more.

Fuck No. America was built on bullshit. Runs on bullshit. And controls the world with bullshit.

Lies? That's what makes the world go round.

SexySarah · 07-09-2003, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cosis
It's all about the oil

Well, duh.

The US really seems to be going on a global smash and grab.

Had to do something to pay off those debts...

Paul Markham · 07-09-2003, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Big Nath

Fuck the oil and fuck everything else, at least the iraqi people will have the choice to decide who runs the country now and can live in what should be one of the richest countries on the face of the planet.

just my

When we see real free elections in Iraq I might agree with this statement.

What if the people of Iraq decide to go for a fundamentalist Muslim goverment like Iran? Will that be allowed in their new "Freedom"

KRL · 07-09-2003, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
End of story?

This story has a lot more chapters to go. Would you like to see a trend of Presidents going to war to line their own pockets?

All the US Texas Big Oil corps got their sweetheart contracts.

Fuck Yeh baby. Bring all that nice Iraqi cash home to mama Georgie!

cosis · 07-09-2003, 08:33 PM

dont worry we will give the other country's a good deal on oil

KRL · 07-09-2003, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Big Nath

Nobody wins in a war dickwit !!

just my

Yeh that was a 2 cent post for sure dickbreath.

Nobody wins in a war. OK. Right . . .

MassAppeal · 07-09-2003, 08:35 PM

Did anyone really expect them to find anything?

AssFairy · 07-09-2003, 08:36 PM

Even if they found them they would hardly dare show them to the public with "Made in the USA" stamped all over them

SandraB · 07-09-2003, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SexySarah

Doesn't the 'small' fact that your elected officials flat out lied to you (or at the very least - deliberately misled you) bother you at all?

Do you enjoy being duped by the people that are meant to govern 'for the people'?

I was always under the impression the US was a democracy.

Maybe not any more.

Interesting points. I guess you are entiteled to put theses question to the table. I guess have to second some of that...

KRL · 07-09-2003, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cosis
dont worry we will give the other country's a good deal on oil

KRL · 07-09-2003, 08:40 PM

The House of Saud is shaky as shit right now. That was one of the MAIN primary reasons we had to take over Iraq.

Big Nath · 07-09-2003, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
When we see real free elections in Iraq I might agree with this statement.

What if the people of Iraq decide to go for a fundamentalist Muslim goverment like Iran? Will that be allowed in their new "Freedom"

Yeah good point man but shouldnt they be allowed to choose in the first place??

We get to choose our governemnt type and who is gunna run it.

The least they can have is the right to choose for themselves

SandraB · 07-09-2003, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MassAppeal
Did anyone really expect them to find anything?

Bo nobody normal except Tony Blair and Bush.
Blair because Busn told him they excisted and Bush becuse the spin doctors told jim so

cosis · 07-09-2003, 08:44 PM

They are to stupid to choose.

SandraB · 07-09-2003, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AssFairy
Even if they found them they would hardly dare show them to the public with "Made in the USA" stamped all over them

Hehehehehehehehe your damm right on this point .... Funny though!

Big Nath · 07-09-2003, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL

Yeh that was a 2 cent post for sure dickbreath.

Nobody wins in a war. OK. Right . . .

Well nobody does.. Take Iraq invasion this time around..

America lost soldiers, iraq lost soldiers..

Iraq lost civilians...

Think of all the familys that have had their loves dramatically changed??

Nobody wins. It might look that way because iraq is now liberated (to a degree), but nobody had a clear and defined victory.

Use your brain thats why you have evolved to have one.

Paul Markham · 07-09-2003, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Big Nath

Yeah good point man but shouldnt they be allowed to choose in the first place??

We get to choose our governemnt type and who is gunna run it.

The least they can have is the right to choose for themselves

And we sent an army to give them that right.

When do you expect elections in Afghanistan?

Remember the people of the Middle East are not like those in the Mid West and do not think the same as them.

KRL · 07-10-2003, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Big Nath

Well nobody does.. Take Iraq invasion this time around..

America lost soldiers, iraq lost soldiers..

Iraq lost civilians...

Think of all the familys that have had their loves dramatically changed??

Nobody wins. It might look that way because iraq is now liberated (to a degree), but nobody had a clear and defined victory.

Use your brain thats why you have evolved to have one.

Nobody won? We just took over an entire country and the one with the 2nd largest oil reserves in the world. Casualties are part of the process and expected. They pre-order the body bags even.

D-man · 07-10-2003, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SexySarah

Doesn't the 'small' fact that your elected officials flat out lied to you (or at the very least - deliberately misled you) bother you at all?

Do you enjoy being duped by the people that are meant to govern 'for the people'?

I was always under the impression the US was a democracy.

Maybe not any more.

Sorry the truth is we knew they were lying and we didn't care -

elected officials flat out lie for a living maybe thats why they are so good at it

ADL Colin · 07-10-2003, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly

Remember the people of the Middle East are not like those in the Mid West

People want a voice in their government. Why do you think the people of the Middle East are any different in that regard?

Kapitan Ivanov · 07-10-2003, 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
Iraq weapons 'unlikely to be found'

I could have told you that a year ago.

Paul Markham · 07-10-2003, 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Colin

People want a voice in their government. Why do you think the people of the Middle East are any different in that regard?

And the US/UK army is going to give it to them and what if they vote for a Shi ite fundamentalist state?\

Still going to give them a word in their goverment?

It is not finished and some of you fool yourselves, as you did over WMD, that it is. Every terrorist leader has just been given the most wonderful piece of propaganda for recruiting more suicide attackers.

So far I've been proved right, the reasons for invasion were fictional and the peace is harder to win than the war.

theking · 07-10-2003, 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
And the US/UK army is going to give it to them and what if they vote for a Shi ite fundamentalist state?\

Still going to give them a word in their goverment?

It is not finished and some of you fool yourselves, as you did over WMD, that it is. Every terrorist leader has just been given the most wonderful piece of propaganda for recruiting more suicide attackers.

So far I've been proved right, the reasons for invasion were fictional and the peace is harder to win than the war.

Fudamentalism will not be on the ticket. The US intends to establish a Democratic Republic.

Terroists do not require a reason to be terrorists.

The reasons for the invasion are not ficitional...as WMD's was a very small part of the the list of reasons for the invasion...but was a part of the public face.

I do not know of anyone that ever thought that turning a Muslim nation into a Democratic Republic would be accomplished overnight. It has been a few months...come back in a few years and report then.

There are more Americans killed daily by Americans than there are killed by terrorist orgs or in Afghanistan and Iraq combined.

Get a fucking clue...clueless.

fiveyes · 07-10-2003, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
... They pre-order the body bags even.

I agree with everything you said in your posting, but this struck me as sort of funny. I mean to say, it conjured a picture of what would happen if they didn't do it that way, waiting six weeks for each body bag, after the fact, would be kind of silly.

XYCash · 07-10-2003, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by D-man

Sorry the truth is we knew they were lying and we didn't care -

elected officials flat out lie for a living maybe thats why they are so good at it

BS - I care and so does near 70% of the people in the U.S.

Recent polls show that

This destroys our credibility in the world - rips Bushs pre-emptive doctrine to shreads.

If they can't depend on intelligence assessments - if they aren't flawless, then there cannot *be* a pre-emptive policy.

theking · 07-10-2003, 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by XYCash

BS - I care and so does near 70% of the people in the U.S.

Recent polls show that

This destroys our credibility in the world - rips Bushs pre-emptive doctrine to shreads.

If they can't depend on intelligence assessments - if they aren't flawless, then there cannot *be* a pre-emptive policy.

I agree. If it factually turns out to be a massive intelligence failure then pre-emption based upon intel is not viable...although I believe that WMD's...though being the bulk of the public face...was only a small part of the reasons for the invasion.

jimmyf · 07-10-2003, 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking

Fudamentalism will not be on the ticket. The US intends to establish a Democratic Republic.

Terroists do not require a reason to be terrorists.

The reasons for the invasion are not ficitional...as WMD's was a very small part of the the list of reasons for the invasion...but was a part of the public face.

I do not know of anyone that ever thought that turning a Muslim nation into a Democratic Republic would be accomplished overnight. It has been a few months...come back in a few years and report then.

There are more Americans killed daily by Americans than there are killed by terrorist orgs or in Afghanistan and Iraq combined.

Get a fucking clue...clueless.

agree

<IMX> · 07-10-2003, 06:42 AM

Funny...so many armchair politicians.

Nobody was talking about the "big picture," until now.

LOL.

Sorry, back channels are a serious problem in any elected organization.

A lot of great things could be done for America ...and the world for that matter if we ignored the consent of the populace and/or elected officials of other branches.

However, that isn't the point of a democracy...or even a republic (in the case of the U.S.). You can't go through back channels. The constitution is there for a reason.

Things must be properly done according to protocol.

Ironic that the U.S. chooses to use an executive-dominated, back-channel laced adminsistration to toppel a dictatorship ... in order to instate....a democracy?

theking · 07-10-2003, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by <IMX>
Funny...so many armchair politicians.

Nobody was talking about the "big picture," until now.

LOL.

Sorry, back channels are a serious problem in any elected organization.

A lot of great things could be done for America ...and the world for that matter if we ignored the consent of the populace and/or elected officials of other branches.

However, that isn't the point of a democracy...or even a republic (in the case of the U.S.). You can't go through back channels. The constitution is there for a reason.

Things must be properly done according to protocol.

Ironic that the U.S. chooses to use an executive-dominated, back-channel laced adminsistration to toppel a dictatorship ... in order to instate....a democracy?

I presented my version of the big picture prior to the invasion and have always thought as well as stated prior to the invasion that WMD's were the least of the reasons for the invasion.

Paul Markham · 07-10-2003, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking

Fudamentalism will not be on the ticket. The US intends to establish a Democratic Republic.

So much for democracy. They can only chose what they are told to have.

The Shah was a Western leader, he got kicked out. The Russians got kicked out of everywhere they tried to control. The US got kicked out of Vietnam. The British got Kicked out of America. The Europeans got kicked out in Africa. Plus too many other instances to name.

And it will happen again in Iraq if the US try to control it.

Didn't you learn anything at school, how stupid are you?

You're not the guy giving Bush his "intelligence" are you?

theking · 07-10-2003, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
So much for democracy. They can only chose what they are told to have.

The Shah was a Western leader, he got kicked out. The Russians got kicked out of everywhere they tried to control. The US got kicked out of Vietnam. The British got Kicked out of America. The Europeans got kicked out in Africa. Plus too many other instances to name.

And it will happen again in Iraq if the US try to control it.

Didn't you learn anything at school, how stupid are you?

You're not the guy giving Bush his "intelligence" are you?

Yes I learned something in school...and if I remember correctly no country in the history of the world has ever had a democracy as a form of government.

The US did not get kicked out of Vietnam...it withdrew its forces because the people of the US withdrew its support for the war.

Japan...whose culture at the time was just as foriegn to western culture, as mid-eastern is to western culture...was a major success to being forced to have a Democratic form of government and adopting the ways of the west. It is the 2nd richest country on the earth although Germany and Japan compete for the number two slot.

Still fucking clueless Charly and shall remain so.

Manga1 · 07-10-2003, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
The House of Saud is shaky as shit right now. That was one of the MAIN primary reasons we had to take over Iraq.

I still think the main target is Iran. It makes sense strategically. With troops in both Iraq and Afghanistan, Iran is now surrounded. Just watch. The US will start putting a lot of pressure on Iran which will steadily increase over the next few years. This will be followed by a few well timed crisises which will manufacture consent in the US media for sanctions, followed by intervention.

JDog · 07-10-2003, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
Iraq weapons 'unlikely to be found'

Title says it all.

Not sure if they are reporting this everywhere else.

They said that to attack them. Everybody knows it. Why do you think the UN didn't agree with bombing them? And you can't tell me he destroyed all of the? So we must of been lying, US just want's to be the bigger Muscle.

Blair on the other hand, probably thought there were WMD's over there! I know Blair would just do it just because, his reputation has to be held. And know he is worried about re-election. Poor Blair. I hope he stays in, I like him more than our own president.

jDoG

beergood · 07-10-2003, 07:51 AM

They must've moved the weapons to one of the neighboring countries!!!! Lets get'em!! Operation Clean Sweep

flashfreak · 07-10-2003, 07:51 AM

where are the old bush asskissers? unseenworld, colin.. come here and say again : "it's not about the oil"

rooster · 07-10-2003, 07:55 AM

same spin all over. Get over the election already.

directfiesta · 07-10-2003, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JDog

They said that to attack them. Everybody knows it. Why do you think the UN didn't agree with bombing them?

jDoG

So it seems that France, Germany and Russia were smarter... they looked, didn't see and didn't want to invade on doctored or false "intel"...

Bush lovers ( please note the difference from US lovers for those who are confused) may call them pussies or be pissed because they didn't follow blindly, but neither heads of those countries are in the hot seat like Bush and Blair ...

pauliewalnutz · 07-10-2003, 08:32 AM

it was about the oil not the weapons. MIDEAST OIL IS CHEAPER. US Does not care about 3rd world countries being upset, over a war, the excuse was there Saddam kept playing games instead of cooperating like he gave his word he would, and unlike Saddam atleast GWB was true to his word, and now we have tons of more oil at way cheaper prices.

rooster · 07-10-2003, 08:34 AM

buy a clue, those three countries were in bed with Sadaam for oil deals and wanted him to reman in place.

Look it up, the only two times the un ever authorized a millitary action were korea and gulf war 1. And korea only passed because the Russians didnt show up that day. No other times.

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