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Za Ha · 07-10-2003, 09:54 AM

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Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
1:80 with TGP traffic...

I agree, 1:80 is impossible on tgp traffic. You would have to filter it at least 3-4 times.

http · 07-10-2003, 10:37 AM

So we're talking about $2.50 worth of traffic here right? (1/10 of the 100k/$25)

No signup after spending $2.50

Can you say scam?

hahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahhaha

Choker · 07-10-2003, 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by http
So we're talking about $2.50 worth of traffic here right? (1/10 of the 100k/$25)

No signup after spending $2.50

Can you say scam?

hahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahhaha

I don't think he is trying to scam, just concerned about bad results on his first buy from me. Sometimes all the hype does lead people to expect miracles. My traffic is not a miracle, it is just average TGP traffic, the difference is in the webmaster friendly rules I have. Most guys do not know how to take advantage of these rules, since they are so different.

Make those changes to the gallery I mentioned and you will see better results. These i-f-r-a-m-e-d spots are very different and hard to master, but once you do you will get addicted to them, they convert like crazy if the gallery is designed to accomadate the headers and footers.

baddog · 07-10-2003, 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by Choker
Here is the problem with this gallery man, you are buying the 100k i-f-r-a-m-e-d test for $25 thsi is what the surfer sees

http://www.bigfreepics.com/teens.php...s_pass/&h=1325

You need to move that top banner to the bottom and move the thumbs up to the top of the gallery. The surfers do not think this is a gallery as it looks now so they click out. I-f-r-am-e-d spots are tricky, you have to design your gallery around the headers and footers, but once you know how to do this, you will find that these spots are 50% more profitable than regular spots. In fact they are outselling my regular spots 3 to 1 now. Traffic to these galleries is not what I want it yet, but this will all change within a month.

thanks, will give that a shot -

baddog · 07-10-2003, 04:15 PM

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Originally posted by Za Ha

I agree, 1:80 is impossible on tgp traffic. You would have to filter it at least 3-4 times.

1:80 is of those that click our links to the join page sign up.

Our TGP raw conversion has been 1:1112 in June

http · 07-10-2003, 04:18 PM

lol I was being sarcastic. No scam here I am sure. Just found it funny that someone would start a thread over 2 fiddy

baddog · 07-10-2003, 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by http
So we're talking about $2.50 worth of traffic here right? (1/10 of the 100k/$25)

No signup after spending $2.50

Can you say scam?

hahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahhaha

dude, the $25 was a one time introductory price as I recall. The $25 I can use to blow my nose on. My intention was that if this traffic was better than the standard TGP traffic (which for some dumb reason, I was lead to believe by reading comments here and elsewhere), I would spend some more money, rather than more time sending traffic to our link list.

It has nothing to do with the amount of money I spent. That was never an issue.

baddog · 07-10-2003, 04:25 PM

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Originally posted by Choker

I don't think he is trying to scam, just concerned about bad results on his first buy from me. Sometimes all the hype does lead people to expect miracles. My traffic is not a miracle, it is just average TGP traffic, the difference is in the webmaster friendly rules I have. Most guys do not know how to take advantage of these rules, since they are so different.

Make those changes to the gallery I mentioned and you will see better results. These i-f-r-a-m-e-d spots are very different and hard to master, but once you do you will get addicted to them, they convert like crazy if the gallery is designed to accomadate the headers and footers.

Well, I will make some changes (like the moving of the top banner, do we need to notify you when doing so?), and while I do like the webmaster friendly rules of yesteryear as I stated on page one, I can see that 2/3's of the clicks are coming from the front page links.

To be honest, our CTR from gallery to join page was taken care of a couple months ago, and the conversion rate had dropped to 1:80 with my purely TGP efforts. So, when I saw 0:500 naturally I was just a little surprised.

But as I have said from the gate, there are still 90k to go, and I will make some mods.

thanks

baddog · 07-10-2003, 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by http
lol I was being sarcastic. No scam here I am sure. Just found it funny that someone would start a thread over 2 fiddy

again, it had nothing to do with the dollar amount. That never entered into the discussion until Choker brought it up.

Now, if the issue is solely because of the amount we spent, I have to ask, if we pay more, will we get a higher quality traffic in return, and what are we talking about as far as investment and ROI?

xxxdesign-net · 07-10-2003, 04:51 PM

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Originally posted by Dusen
I am getting 1:27,500 this month. I am really happy with that. I'm sure others do better.

Can I ask you how many hits/day do you receive on all your galleries?

Choker · 07-10-2003, 05:33 PM

You don't have to notify me when you change the gallery unless it resizes and the footers are not alligned right. If this happens jsut message me in CTTS and I will change the page. But again man, this is basically the same traffic as any other TGP, it is not better or worse. The difference is in the gallery rules. As long as the gallery is not a FPA, I don't even limit the number of links to the sponsor on it. Now with i-f-r-a-m-e-d gallery traffic, this is GS2. Since the TGP's sending traffic to these galleries are getting paid in traffic or cash based on the productivity of thier surfers on my headers, it does attract TGPs with better quality traffic. Hell there are many tgps whose traffic produces over 10% CTR just on my headers and footers, so overall the CTR has to be over 18% total to a gallery.

TheJimmy · 07-10-2003, 05:38 PM

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Originally posted by baddog

you know what? You are absolutely correct, and I guess it was the fact that I expected something to happen every 4.000 hits or so. So when I started this thread I was concentrating on the hits, not the clicks, but that is not fair to Choker. So . . .

Since July 1 he has sent 313 clicks, with no conversion. Just in last 9 days The only thing I have seen convert worst has been Chinese and pure blind exit traffic. I have dealt with that before, I just heard all these people talking up choker, and I was prepared to be impressed and continue buying if it was all I hoped it would be.

would you like fries with that

baddog · 07-10-2003, 06:25 PM

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Originally posted by TheJimmy

would you like fries with that

I take it Taco Bell didn't work out for you?

baddog · 07-10-2003, 06:32 PM

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Originally posted by Choker
You don't have to notify me when you change the gallery unless it resizes and the footers are not alligned right. If this happens jsut message me in CTTS and I will change the page. But again man, this is basically the same traffic as any other TGP, it is not better or worse. The difference is in the gallery rules. As long as the gallery is not a FPA, I don't even limit the number of links to the sponsor on it. Now with i-f-r-a-m-e-d gallery traffic, this is GS2. Since the TGP's sending traffic to these galleries are getting paid in traffic or cash based on the productivity of thier surfers on my headers, it does attract TGPs with better quality traffic. Hell there are many tgps whose traffic produces over 10% CTR just on my headers and footers, so overall the CTR has to be over 18% total to a gallery.

well, I am glad those headers and footers are working for you. I guess this is a good message for those that don't believe that freehosts with banners, or that counters make good traffic leaks.

We moved the top banner as suggested, so we shall see what happens.

As far as the traffic being high quality TGP traffic, well, I guess we will have to agree to disagree considering that this is the first 0:500 conversions I have ever experienced.

Guess I will go back to doing my own promotions. In all honesty, I kind of figured this introductory traffic would be better than average to insure repeat business.

That is what drug dealers used to do back in the day

Choker · 07-10-2003, 07:05 PM

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As far as the traffic being high quality TGP traffic, well, I guess we will have to agree to disagree considering that this is the first 0:500 conversions I have ever experienced.

Come on man, this is getting really silly really fast. You have recieived what 10k hits to your gallery so far? You are judging my traffic based on this????? This traffic is coming from over 1000 different TGPs my friend. If it does not convert for you then blame it on TGPs in general. List a gallery on the Hun, get 200k hits to it, by your standards you would get 20 signups everytime he lists a gallery of yours. Guys tried to tell you the model was ugly, I tried to tell you that this is a bad category. This is a babes gallery, nothing special. I use babes galleries as fillers, not as galleries to actually pull signups or traffic. If I gave up everytime I had a gallery listed on a tgp, got 100k hits and NO SIGNUPS>>> then I would have quit this business years ago. 10k to a gallery is NOTHING at all.

Choker · 07-10-2003, 07:16 PM

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Now, if the issue is solely because of the amount we spent, I have to ask, if we pay more, will we get a higher quality traffic in return, and what are we talking about as far as investment and ROI?

No it has nothing to do with the amount of money you spend, everyone who buys a spot gets the same traffic. Babes categories have the lowest amount of traffic because TGP's really don't care to list these categories. Surfers just don't give a shit about them to be totally honest.

Most regular buyers will run 10 to 30 active gallery spots at the same time. They will just top the orders off before they run out. The uniques system I use allows you to run the same gallery basically forever. So once you find galleries that convert good, jsut keep topping them off. Some guys are running the same gallery for 6 months now. As long as it still converts they just keep running it. One guy has bought over 8 million hits to the exact same gallery. It still converts good for him so he keeps it active.

GS2 is not sending much to each gallery right now because there are so many active spots and not enough traffic to feed them all. This will change next month.

baddog · 07-10-2003, 08:20 PM

like I said, we will see what the other 90k will do.

And no, I am not saying that if thehun sent me 200k hits I would have 20 signups, but I am saying that if he sent me 500 clicks, on average at least 5 signups would result.

Also as I stated before, I was a little surprised that only 10k had been sent so far.

So tell me, most of my TGP that I hand submit has been blonde, Asian, amateur, fetish, bondage, and a little ebony; what category works best with your traffic?

Choker · 07-10-2003, 08:29 PM

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And no, I am not saying that if thehun sent me 200k hits I would have 20 signups, but I am saying that if he sent me 500 clicks, on average at least 5 signups would result.

Ok, TGP's do not send you clicks. They send you surfers. The clicks on your gallery is up to your design, not the TGP sending the traffic. If I send you 100k hits to your gallery, then that is all I did, I sent you 100k surfers. If your gallery gets 10% CTR, then your gallery produced 10,000 click thrus. I DID NOT send you those clicks. Your gallery PRODUCED those clicks from my surfers.

The only difference between my gallery traffic and most others is that I allow aggressive advertising that CAN RESULT in your gallery having a CTR 5 times more than other TGPS. That's it man, that's the only difference.

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So tell me, most of my TGP that I hand submit has been blonde, Asian, amateur, fetish, bondage, and a little ebony; what category works best with your traffic?

I_F_R_A_M_E_D

gs2_movie_fucking 500 a hour
gs2_movie_amateur 450
gs2_movie_teens 420
gs2_movie_anal 400
gs2_mature_fucking 450
gs2_mmf 250
gs2_brunettes_blowjobs 250
gs2_amateur_teen_fucking 220
gs2_teen_fucking 220
gs2_teen_blowjobs 220
gs2_ffm 200
gs2_movie_shemales 200
gs2_asians 160

Regular galleries
gal_mature 1200 a hour
gal_movie_mature 800
gal_shemales 700
gal_amateur_fucking 700
gal_hairy 650
gal_movie_teen 630
gal_mature_fucking 500
gal_teen_blonde 500
gal_movie_anal 480
gal_asians 460
gal_movie_deepthroat 455
gal_ffm 450
gal_fucking_blondes 450
gal_movie_group 430
gal_amateur_teens 430
gal_movie_fucking 400
gal_movies_cumshots 400
gal_movie_teen 400
gal_teen_fat 390

baddog · 07-10-2003, 08:46 PM

okay, semantics. . . . .if i had 500 clicks as a result of thehun's traffic, I can pretty much guarantee that I will have 5 signups.

That is why I brought up this thread in the first place. I have never had 500 clicks, resulting from anyone's traffic, that had zero signups.

I have had 1 million blind hits that did not result in shit for clicks, true. I am getting clicks from your traffic. They just don't convert. Why is that? When I do TGP on my own, which includes thehun, worldsex, and dozens of other smaller TGP's I know that I will get signups as a result of the clicks. Even on my worst days a 1:200 could be expected. With SPP my results have been much better.

But that is okay. Like I said, we will see what happens with the other 90k. Maybe it was just getting warmed up.

completetosser · 07-10-2003, 09:02 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
okay, semantics. . . . .if i had 500 clicks as a result of thehun's traffic, I can pretty much guarantee that I will have 5 signups.

1 in 100 with that gallery? If you did, it would prove that there's no accounting for taste

baddog · 07-10-2003, 10:22 PM

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Originally posted by completetosser

1 in 100 with that gallery? If you did, it would prove that there's no accounting for taste

I think you screen name says it all.

Here is a little tip, not everyone is into the same thing as you.

gkremen · 07-11-2003, 12:59 AM

If you want real (non robot, actual human, no trick traffic), try out http://www.sex.com. You can purchase by country, by keyword. Your listings will appear on over 50 other search engines such as google.com. And no fraud. Questions - [email protected]

You can start with text traffic at $25, banners at %500. Over 2,300 current customers.

Gary

baddog · 07-11-2003, 03:04 AM

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Originally posted by gkremen
If you want real (non robot, actual human, no trick traffic), try out http://www.sex.com. You can purchase by country, by keyword. Your listings will appear on over 50 other search engines such as google.com. And no fraud. Questions - [email protected]

You can start with text traffic at $25, banners at %500. Over 2,300 current customers.

Gary

actually, I was planning on seeing about that when I was at the party Saturday.

Triple 6 · 07-11-2003, 03:21 AM

John3 · 07-11-2003, 04:05 AM

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Originally posted by baddog
okay, semantics. . . . .if i had 500 clicks as a result of thehun's traffic, I can pretty much guarantee that I will have 5 signups.

That is why I brought up this thread in the first place. I have never had 500 clicks, resulting from anyone's traffic, that had zero signups.

I have had 1 million blind hits that did not result in shit for clicks, true. I am getting clicks from your traffic. They just don't convert. Why is that? When I do TGP on my own, which includes thehun, worldsex, and dozens of other smaller TGP's I know that I will get signups as a result of the clicks. Even on my worst days a 1:200 could be expected. With SPP my results have been much better.

But that is okay. Like I said, we will see what happens with the other 90k. Maybe it was just getting warmed up.

dude, just count your blessings that you got more than one click off of that piece of crap gallery

baddog · 07-11-2003, 04:13 AM

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Originally posted by John3

dude, just count your blessings that you got more than one click off of that piece of crap gallery

I guess I don't know who you are because you are so elite?

John3 · 07-11-2003, 04:41 AM

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Originally posted by baddog

I guess I don't know who you are because you are so elite?

that, or maybe because I spend more than $25 before I start judging traffic

baddog · 07-11-2003, 05:32 AM

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Originally posted by John3

that, or maybe because I spend more than $25 before I start judging traffic

blah-blah, read the thread

Veterans Day · 07-11-2003, 06:17 AM

To say you would have 5 sign-ups off of 500 clicks with that gallery is makin me chuckle to say the least. The crack pipe has burnt your finger tips badly

I am just wondering if you are just being so blind and ignorant on purpose to draw attention to your AVS? I mean constantly saying you convert at 1:80 or whatever means 1 of 2 things. Either you are saying SPP "AVS" is just simply awesome converting at insane TGP ratios or you really are just a little confused in the brain. Im just not sure which one. Cause without the headers and footers that gallery is a table with pics. And the join links go to a page that is not appealing at all. Are you being ignorant on purpose??

baddog · 07-11-2003, 07:09 AM

great, did you join here just to make that observation?

Choker · 07-11-2003, 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by gkremen
If you want real (non robot, actual human, no trick traffic), try out http://www.sex.com. You can purchase by country, by keyword. Your listings will appear on over 50 other search engines such as google.com. And no fraud. Questions - [email protected]

You can start with text traffic at $25, banners at %500. Over 2,300 current customers.

Gary

When someone makes a thread asking or complaining about your traffic, do I come in and SPAM my shit? No I don't, why can't you show a little class dude????

Hue G. Pness · 07-11-2003, 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
To say you would have 5 sign-ups off of 500 clicks with that gallery is makin me chuckle to say the least. The crack pipe has burnt your finger tips badly I am just wondering if you are just being so blind and ignorant on purpose to draw attention to your AVS? I mean constantly saying you convert at 1:80 or whatever means 1 of 2 things. Either you are saying SPP "AVS" is just simply awesome converting at insane TGP ratios or you really are just a little confused in the brain. Im just not sure which one. Cause without the headers and footers that gallery is a table with pics. And the join links go to a page that is not appealing at all. Are you being ignorant on purpose??

Come on dude. It's well known in the industry that when you have your own program or are employed by a program all TGP traffic suddenly starts to convert under 1:100. :D

easyfun · 07-11-2003, 12:13 PM

I haven't bought gallery spots from Choker - Prbably will never do that, too.
I do buy tgp traffic from him and the stuff does the biz well for me - Which means I shall continue to buy.

I would say as much as 40% is bookmarking - Which gives me loads of chances to make capitol from this traffic - If I don't, that is my fault, no one elses

Good stuff Choker

Veterans Day · 07-11-2003, 12:28 PM

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Originally posted by Hue G. Pness

Come on dude. It's well known in the industry that when you have your own program or are employed by a program all TGP traffic suddenly starts to convert under 1:100. :D

Oh I see how it is. LMAO It is just purely assanine and ridiculous. What cracks me up is when people corrected this guy on his math skills he replys with " well I am not so familiar with surfer traffic anymore" BUT proclaims 1:80 AT WORST when he submits by hand to TGP's. What a joke

Choker · 07-11-2003, 02:12 PM

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Originally posted by easyfun
I haven't bought gallery spots from Choker - Prbably will never do that, too.
I do buy tgp traffic from him and the stuff does the biz well for me - Which means I shall continue to buy.

I would say as much as 40% is bookmarking - Which gives me loads of chances to make capitol from this traffic - If I don't, that is my fault, no one elses

Good stuff Choker

Thanks man, glad you are happy with the TGP traffic, I am working very hard to send much more niche TGP traffic. The volume is way up. I can now send almost 200k a day to a single TGP. Selling TGP traffic is what I do best, I am trying to get back to the point where it is my core businesss, not gallery spots. I make squat off gallery spots, I only sell them to keep the tgp webmasters that send to my galleries happy. I actually make much more money if I send the gallery traffic to my own galleries only.

07-10-2003, 05:33 PM	#61
Choker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Orlando Posts: 9,024	You don't have to notify me when you change the gallery unless it resizes and the footers are not alligned right. If this happens jsut message me in CTTS and I will change the page. But again man, this is basically the same traffic as any other TGP, it is not better or worse. The difference is in the gallery rules. As long as the gallery is not a FPA, I don't even limit the number of links to the sponsor on it. Now with i-f-r-a-m-e-d gallery traffic, this is GS2. Since the TGP's sending traffic to these galleries are getting paid in traffic or cash based on the productivity of thier surfers on my headers, it does attract TGPs with better quality traffic. Hell there are many tgps whose traffic produces over 10% CTR just on my headers and footers, so overall the CTR has to be over 18% total to a gallery. __________________ ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

07-11-2003, 12:59 AM	#72
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07-11-2003, 12:13 PM	#83
easyfun Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 731	I haven't bought gallery spots from Choker - Prbably will never do that, too. I do buy tgp traffic from him and the stuff does the biz well for me - Which means I shall continue to buy. I would say as much as 40% is bookmarking - Which gives me loads of chances to make capitol from this traffic - If I don't, that is my fault, no one elses Good stuff Choker __________________ <p><embed width="120" height="60" src="http://www.harlotcash.com/harlot_3.swf"><br> </p>

07-10-2003, 10:37 AM	#52
http Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,811	So we're talking about $2.50 worth of traffic here right? (1/10 of the 100k/$25) No signup after spending $2.50 Can you say scam? hahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahhaha

07-10-2003, 04:18 PM	#56
http Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,811	lol I was being sarcastic. No scam here I am sure. Just found it funny that someone would start a thread over 2 fiddy

07-10-2003, 08:20 PM	#67
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	like I said, we will see what the other 90k will do. And no, I am not saying that if thehun sent me 200k hits I would have 20 signups, but I am saying that if he sent me 500 clicks, on average at least 5 signups would result. Also as I stated before, I was a little surprised that only 10k had been sent so far. So tell me, most of my TGP that I hand submit has been blonde, Asian, amateur, fetish, bondage, and a little ebony; what category works best with your traffic?

07-10-2003, 08:46 PM	#69
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	okay, semantics. . . . .if i had 500 clicks as a result of thehun's traffic, I can pretty much guarantee that I will have 5 signups. That is why I brought up this thread in the first place. I have never had 500 clicks, resulting from anyone's traffic, that had zero signups. I have had 1 million blind hits that did not result in shit for clicks, true. I am getting clicks from your traffic. They just don't convert. Why is that? When I do TGP on my own, which includes thehun, worldsex, and dozens of other smaller TGP's I know that I will get signups as a result of the clicks. Even on my worst days a 1:200 could be expected. With SPP my results have been much better. But that is okay. Like I said, we will see what happens with the other 90k. Maybe it was just getting warmed up.

07-11-2003, 06:17 AM	#79
Veterans Day Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Windy City Posts: 8,403	To say you would have 5 sign-ups off of 500 clicks with that gallery is makin me chuckle to say the least. The crack pipe has burnt your finger tips badly I am just wondering if you are just being so blind and ignorant on purpose to draw attention to your AVS? I mean constantly saying you convert at 1:80 or whatever means 1 of 2 things. Either you are saying SPP "AVS" is just simply awesome converting at insane TGP ratios or you really are just a little confused in the brain. Im just not sure which one. Cause without the headers and footers that gallery is a table with pics. And the join links go to a page that is not appealing at all. Are you being ignorant on purpose??

07-11-2003, 07:09 AM	#80
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	great, did you join here just to make that observation?