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lil2rich4u2 · 06-30-2003, 05:28 AM

Was thinking how rather than adding hosted galleries to my TGP, it might be beneficial (in many ways) to host all of my own galleries spread onto several servers.

Have maybe 100 or so on the same server and same domain as the TGP, this way the SE see's multiple pages and plenty of content, then have another 100 or so on a high ranked domain with a link back .. so the SE see's relavent linkbacks.

I started wondering what the hosting charges could add up to if i did this, then i thought ... do i really need to give 15 free pics on a heavy graphics page? I mean, this is my own TGP ... i make my own rules, dont i?

My question is this ...

Has anyone ever tried converting a gallery that has maybe a title, 2 or 3 pictures, and a link saying "Click Here To Join" or something?

Seems if alot of the TGP owners got into this habbit, it may help their pagerank since your adding 100 pages of content, and 100 linkbacks ..... as well as possibly crimping the free porn thats being given to the surfer (to a point)

I dont know too much about it, but would this be concidered TGP2? Also, can you give any reason why this is a bad idea?

Thanks.

Jakke PNG · 06-30-2003, 05:29 AM

pornJester · 06-30-2003, 05:30 AM

i'd give them half a thumbnail and link it to a sponsor. too much free porn

lil2rich4u2 · 06-30-2003, 05:31 AM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather
tgp2

Thats what i thought. Have you had good or bad luck with these style galleries?

lil2rich4u2 · 06-30-2003, 05:31 AM

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Originally posted by pornJester
i'd give them half a thumbnail and link it to a sponsor. too much free porn

heh .... and make the half thumbnail not very good quality

Porndealer · 06-30-2003, 05:32 AM

Yeah that's just TGP2 style galleries, 5 pics and some good text links like "Continue the free tour".

Jakke PNG · 06-30-2003, 05:32 AM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

Thats what i thought. Have you had good or bad luck with these style galleries?

I had a tgp2 site in late 2001. It did really well conversionwise, BUT there's barely not traffic in tgp2.

IF there were I'd start another site in a heartbeat.. hmm.. might do that anyways.

lil2rich4u2 · 06-30-2003, 05:35 AM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather
I had a tgp2 site in late 2001. It did really well conversionwise, BUT there's barely not traffic in tgp2.

IF there were I'd start another site in a heartbeat.. hmm.. might do that anyways.

Well, considering i wont be submitting these galleries, and just listing them on my own 14 TGP's .... i wont need to rely on outside traffic for conversions.

BTW, the gallery i had in mind actually only had 2 or 3 pictures, do you think it would be ok? or should i stick with 5 like the tgp2 standard?

lil2rich4u2 · 06-30-2003, 05:36 AM

Also, since right now all my hits are going to choker ... i cant expect ANY conversions, hopefully by doing this i add a sale now and then ....

Makes sense on paper, but i fuck that up quite often lol

lil2rich4u2 · 06-30-2003, 05:39 AM

another concern i had ...

lets say i make 300 of these bad boys ... 100 on the same server as tgp, 100 on another server, and 100 on yet another.

Is google going to realize that i have 300 pages with similar layouts and all of them linking to my tgp ....

isnt that "spamming" according to them?

Jakke PNG · 06-30-2003, 05:41 AM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

Well, considering i wont be submitting these galleries, and just listing them on my own 14 TGP's .... i wont need to rely on outside traffic for conversions.

BTW, the gallery i had in mind actually only had 2 or 3 pictures, do you think it would be ok? or should i stick with 5 like the tgp2 standard?

I think you need like 5 pictures atleast to keep your trades alive. I doubt they'll click another gallery if they get a bannerfarm with 3 pictures on their first click

lil2rich4u2 · 06-30-2003, 05:47 AM

ok let me do some rough math ...

50kb per pic x 5 = 250kb
9kb per thumb x 5 = 45kb
5kb for page (?)

total of 300kb per page load (assuming they click all the thumbs)

Lets say i send 30k/day to galleries.

30k x 300kb = 9,000,000kb

so im looking at roughly 9gig extra bandwith? Or diid i do that wrong

pornJester · 06-30-2003, 05:49 AM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
another concern i had ...

lets say i make 300 of these bad boys ... 100 on the same server as tgp, 100 on another server, and 100 on yet another.

Is google going to realize that i have 300 pages with similar layouts and all of them linking to my tgp ....

isnt that "spamming" according to them?

you could use ssi for the areas that are similar

lil2rich4u2 · 06-30-2003, 05:52 AM

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Originally posted by pornJester

you could use ssi for the areas that are similar

how the fuck did you pull a PR6 on an adult site?

how long has the site been around?

Maca · 06-30-2003, 05:56 AM

You can get those pics and thumbs smaller but don't forget to add in the banner/graphic weights. On TGP2 style galleries you might want to go a bit FPAish which would mean fairly heavy usage on those.

Having said that, you then have a click thru machine so the increased sales should more than make up for gig spend.

Porndealer · 06-30-2003, 05:57 AM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
another concern i had ...

lets say i make 300 of these bad boys ... 100 on the same server as tgp, 100 on another server, and 100 on yet another.

Is google going to realize that i have 300 pages with similar layouts and all of them linking to my tgp ....

isnt that "spamming" according to them?

Make sure the title and meta tags are different and don't use the exact same text on each page. I don't think there is a limit to the number of pages you can get listed on google.

pornJester · 06-30-2003, 05:59 AM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

how the fuck did you pull a PR6 on an adult site?

how long has the site been around?

Since 2000.

lil2rich4u2 · 06-30-2003, 06:02 AM

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Originally posted by Maca
You can get those pics and thumbs smaller but don't forget to add in the banner/graphic weights. On TGP2 style galleries you might want to go a bit FPAish which would mean fairly heavy usage on those.

Having said that, you then have a click thru machine so the increased sales should more than make up for gig spend.

Ok .... now it all makes sense right? Seems to be an alternative to reviewing galleries or sending traffic to gallery programs.

So why arent more people doing it? There must be a catch.

Why did TGP2 drown so quickly?

pornJester · 06-30-2003, 06:04 AM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

Why did TGP2 drown so quickly?

Because once they find a tgp(1) site they aren't coming back to yours.

lil2rich4u2 · 06-30-2003, 06:09 AM

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Originally posted by pornJester

Because once they find a tgp(1) site they aren't coming back to yours.

Well i guess that would illiminate bookmarkers to a point.

But take into consideration, no offense to choker, but these (i)frame galleries suck so bad, lol

yet so many TGP's are using them ... they are risking their bookmarkers also.

Also, seeing as every single gallery is mine ... i can feel safe removing all advertising on the actual site. Surfers may appreciate that.

Currently i send all hits to choker, and i run a high trade skim, i still manage to maintain a steady flow of heavy traffic. I cant see that changing due to galleries. Regardless of what the surfer is going to see, there is still a number of clicks that will go to trades and get me some new surfers .... granted that is a very unreliable way to keep traffic, but it seems to be working ok.

Maca · 06-30-2003, 06:10 AM

yeah they'll always go for more,

but assuming you don't rely on bookmarkers you can list all the tgp2's/fpas you like on your own tgps!

lil2rich4u2 · 06-30-2003, 06:13 AM

If someone developed a program to create these files for you, in return for maybe a linkback or something ....

Providing we get a good number of TGP's to use them, i think it can make a serious impact on the market. Less free porn, more paying surfers.

Now after running all the numbers and scenerio's, i really wish TGP2 had not fell to a horrid death .... seems like someone was onto something that could have helped us all alot.

lil2rich4u2 · 06-30-2003, 06:15 AM

speaking of impacting the market ....

how the fuck did we manage to have a somewhat logical conversation without a single flame?

sheesh ...

Maca · 06-30-2003, 06:20 AM

Yeah - I'm about to release a few hosted tgp2 galleries for a BYOT - I figure if they're only for listing on my own and affiliates tgps only its got to make more sense.

As for the flames - had a share of that earlier today when someone thought I was a kid who knew nothing of basic geography LOL - a different story in a different thread - hell its all good fun though!

lil2rich4u2 · 06-30-2003, 12:50 PM

sorry for the bump .... anyone else have any feedback on this?

thanks.

Quotealex · 06-30-2003, 12:55 PM

Why not just use lots of free hosting (sponsors and non sponsors) to acheive that at no cost to you? All you need is a script that will make galleries on the fly and ftp them into these servers!

Sly_RJ · 06-30-2003, 12:57 PM

Basically you're just talking about some type of free site. Why would you even call it a TGP? Use 5 pictures per page, 80-100 "galleries", and you're set. I built one the other day, just haven't sent in any traffic yet.

lil2rich4u2 · 06-30-2003, 01:09 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Basically you're just talking about some type of free site. Why would you even call it a TGP? Use 5 pictures per page, 80-100 "galleries", and you're set. I built one the other day, just haven't sent in any traffic yet.

Assuming you have done it prior to the other day, how did you find conversions and/or CTR?

Did you go heavy with graphics? Or was it just plain 5 pics, and a enticing text link on bottom.

Thanks.

Sly_RJ · 06-30-2003, 01:11 PM

It doesn't convert worth shit and the CTR is terrible. It's hardly sent any clicks to its sponsor.

But that would probably because it's getting no traffic.

tootie · 06-30-2003, 01:23 PM

TGP2 is the way to go. My conversions are like 5 times better than regular TGP traffic. I don't make as much money with TGP2 as with TGP traffic because there isn't nearly as much total traffic, but it does convert.

TGP2 has not drowned. It is still alive and well and make people some pretty decent money.

TheEnforcer · 06-30-2003, 02:52 PM

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Originally posted by tootie
TGP2 is the way to go. My conversions are like 5 times better than regular TGP traffic. I don't make as much money with TGP2 as with TGP traffic because there isn't nearly as much total traffic, but it does convert.

TGP2 has not drowned. It is still alive and well and make people some pretty decent money.

Do you just submit to the pool or do you actually make galleries with recips and such for a TGP2 list?

Jimmer · 07-01-2003, 07:39 AM

I think many sites get thier submissions from the pool. An easy thing to do is if you are making a TGP gallery for submission, cut it down to 5 pics, add pics on html and submit it to the pool. How many minutes will this take out of your day?

Choker · 07-01-2003, 09:12 AM

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But take into consideration, no offense to choker, but these (i)frame galleries suck so bad, lol

No offense taken, this is what so many "webmasters" think. you need to think like a surfer, not a webmaster. These hahahahahahad gallery spots are selling so well I will soon discontinue selling normal gallery spots and only sell hahahahahahad. Surfers love the movie galleries especially. I will not disclose the number of bookmarked hits my galleries get, but it is 7 figures a day. So somebody has to like these galleries a awfull lot.

As far as loosing bookmarkers, I do not see this happening with TGPs using my galleries. If this were the case this program would have died 6 months ago. Wait until GS3 comes out in a month or so, it will gain you bookmarkers bigtime if done correctly.

Hammer · 07-01-2003, 09:54 AM

I don't like TGP2 because it's never going to get anywhere as long as there are so many TGP1 sites. Why would someone bookmark a TGP2 site that has fewer pics and not much hardcore instead of a TGP?

I suggest a modified TGP. 15 thumbs per gallery with the first 10 being softcore and linked to larger images and 5 hardcore pics that are linked to the pay site tour.

Jimmer · 07-01-2003, 10:06 AM

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Originally posted by The Hammer
I don't like TGP2 because it's never going to get anywhere as long as there are so many TGP1 sites. Why would someone bookmark a TGP2 site that has fewer pics and not much hardcore instead of a TGP?

I changed my TGP2 to a TGP that took 5 pics and up including movie galleries. I tracked the bookmarkers. I changed back because the time it took to keep up with the cheaters was not worth it. I get the same number of bookmarkers and see no change in traffic growth with either format.
Also I have always taken hardcore pics. Personally I don't think this makes a differance.

06-30-2003, 05:28 AM	#1
lil2rich4u2 ICQ: 175171926 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,046	Smaller galleries for TGP owners? Was thinking how rather than adding hosted galleries to my TGP, it might be beneficial (in many ways) to host all of my own galleries spread onto several servers. Have maybe 100 or so on the same server and same domain as the TGP, this way the SE see's multiple pages and plenty of content, then have another 100 or so on a high ranked domain with a link back .. so the SE see's relavent linkbacks. I started wondering what the hosting charges could add up to if i did this, then i thought ... do i really need to give 15 free pics on a heavy graphics page? I mean, this is my own TGP ... i make my own rules, dont i? My question is this ... Has anyone ever tried converting a gallery that has maybe a title, 2 or 3 pictures, and a link saying "Click Here To Join" or something? Seems if alot of the TGP owners got into this habbit, it may help their pagerank since your adding 100 pages of content, and 100 linkbacks ..... as well as possibly crimping the free porn thats being given to the surfer (to a point) I dont know too much about it, but would this be concidered TGP2? Also, can you give any reason why this is a bad idea? Thanks. __________________ HEY!! Unbeatable hosting! Customer service is top notch! --> ISPrime <-- Do a search on any board, their reputation is rock solid .. for years!!

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06-30-2003, 05:36 AM	#9
lil2rich4u2 ICQ: 175171926 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,046	Also, since right now all my hits are going to choker ... i cant expect ANY conversions, hopefully by doing this i add a sale now and then .... Makes sense on paper, but i fuck that up quite often lol __________________ HEY!! Unbeatable hosting! Customer service is top notch! --> ISPrime <-- Do a search on any board, their reputation is rock solid .. for years!!

06-30-2003, 05:39 AM	#10
lil2rich4u2 ICQ: 175171926 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,046	another concern i had ... lets say i make 300 of these bad boys ... 100 on the same server as tgp, 100 on another server, and 100 on yet another. Is google going to realize that i have 300 pages with similar layouts and all of them linking to my tgp .... isnt that "spamming" according to them? __________________ HEY!! Unbeatable hosting! Customer service is top notch! --> ISPrime <-- Do a search on any board, their reputation is rock solid .. for years!!

06-30-2003, 05:32 AM	#6
Porndealer Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ghetto Posts: 248	Yeah that's just TGP2 style galleries, 5 pics and some good text links like "Continue the free tour".

06-30-2003, 05:47 AM	#12
lil2rich4u2 ICQ: 175171926 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,046	ok let me do some rough math ... 50kb per pic x 5 = 250kb 9kb per thumb x 5 = 45kb 5kb for page (?) total of 300kb per page load (assuming they click all the thumbs) Lets say i send 30k/day to galleries. 30k x 300kb = 9,000,000kb so im looking at roughly 9gig extra bandwith? Or diid i do that wrong __________________ HEY!! Unbeatable hosting! Customer service is top notch! --> ISPrime <-- Do a search on any board, their reputation is rock solid .. for years!!

06-30-2003, 05:56 AM	#15
Maca Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 183	You can get those pics and thumbs smaller but don't forget to add in the banner/graphic weights. On TGP2 style galleries you might want to go a bit FPAish which would mean fairly heavy usage on those. Having said that, you then have a click thru machine so the increased sales should more than make up for gig spend. __________________ BBW sales not up to scratch? try some tgp2 hosted galleries Insane Tshirts that Sell Sweetly on Adult and Mainstream sites!

06-30-2003, 06:10 AM	#21
Maca Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 183	yeah they'll always go for more, but assuming you don't rely on bookmarkers you can list all the tgp2's/fpas you like on your own tgps! __________________ BBW sales not up to scratch? try some tgp2 hosted galleries Insane Tshirts that Sell Sweetly on Adult and Mainstream sites!

06-30-2003, 06:13 AM	#22
lil2rich4u2 ICQ: 175171926 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,046	If someone developed a program to create these files for you, in return for maybe a linkback or something .... Providing we get a good number of TGP's to use them, i think it can make a serious impact on the market. Less free porn, more paying surfers. Now after running all the numbers and scenerio's, i really wish TGP2 had not fell to a horrid death .... seems like someone was onto something that could have helped us all alot. __________________ HEY!! Unbeatable hosting! Customer service is top notch! --> ISPrime <-- Do a search on any board, their reputation is rock solid .. for years!!

06-30-2003, 06:15 AM	#23
lil2rich4u2 ICQ: 175171926 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,046	speaking of impacting the market .... how the fuck did we manage to have a somewhat logical conversation without a single flame? sheesh ... __________________ HEY!! Unbeatable hosting! Customer service is top notch! --> ISPrime <-- Do a search on any board, their reputation is rock solid .. for years!!

06-30-2003, 06:20 AM	#24
Maca Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 183	Yeah - I'm about to release a few hosted tgp2 galleries for a BYOT - I figure if they're only for listing on my own and affiliates tgps only its got to make more sense. As for the flames - had a share of that earlier today when someone thought I was a kid who knew nothing of basic geography LOL - a different story in a different thread - hell its all good fun though! __________________ BBW sales not up to scratch? try some tgp2 hosted galleries Insane Tshirts that Sell Sweetly on Adult and Mainstream sites!

06-30-2003, 12:50 PM	#25
lil2rich4u2 ICQ: 175171926 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,046	sorry for the bump .... anyone else have any feedback on this? thanks. __________________ HEY!! Unbeatable hosting! Customer service is top notch! --> ISPrime <-- Do a search on any board, their reputation is rock solid .. for years!!

06-30-2003, 12:55 PM	#26
Quotealex Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: The Global Digerati Village Posts: 6,265	Why not just use lots of free hosting (sponsors and non sponsors) to acheive that at no cost to you? All you need is a script that will make galleries on the fly and ftp them into these servers!

06-30-2003, 12:57 PM	#27
Sly_RJ Live Hard - Die Hard Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ready to leave... Posts: 17,042	Basically you're just talking about some type of free site. Why would you even call it a TGP? Use 5 pictures per page, 80-100 "galleries", and you're set. I built one the other day, just haven't sent in any traffic yet. __________________ PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price! sly AT phatservers DOT com - 147479144

06-30-2003, 01:11 PM	#29
Sly_RJ Live Hard - Die Hard Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ready to leave... Posts: 17,042	It doesn't convert worth shit and the CTR is terrible. It's hardly sent any clicks to its sponsor. But that would probably because it's getting no traffic. __________________ PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price! sly AT phatservers DOT com - 147479144

06-30-2003, 01:23 PM	#30
tootie Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Planet Earp Posts: 6,041	TGP2 is the way to go. My conversions are like 5 times better than regular TGP traffic. I don't make as much money with TGP2 as with TGP traffic because there isn't nearly as much total traffic, but it does convert. TGP2 has not drowned. It is still alive and well and make people some pretty decent money. __________________

07-01-2003, 07:39 AM	#32
Jimmer Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Waterloo Ont Posts: 878	I think many sites get thier submissions from the pool. An easy thing to do is if you are making a TGP gallery for submission, cut it down to 5 pics, add pics on html and submit it to the pool. How many minutes will this take out of your day? Last edited by Jimmer; 07-01-2003 at 07:41 AM..

07-01-2003, 09:54 AM	#34
Hammer Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 961	I don't like TGP2 because it's never going to get anywhere as long as there are so many TGP1 sites. Why would someone bookmark a TGP2 site that has fewer pics and not much hardcore instead of a TGP? I suggest a modified TGP. 15 thumbs per gallery with the first 10 being softcore and linked to larger images and 5 hardcore pics that are linked to the pay site tour. __________________ Porn Site Pros - Custom Website Design, Turnkey Webcam and Pay Sites, SEO, and Consulting