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Old 06-26-2003, 07:18 PM   #1
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Cheating member caught out

You gotta laugh at some of these idiots

He sends me this email

Subject: Lack of Service
RE: Member ID 1xxxx

Ladies and Gentlemen:

This is to notify you that I had taken out a subscription to your pay site on April 26 of this year. I was planning to try it for a month, and when I attempted to access it after a month (to see if I was allowed to still go on), I was blocked off. This indicated to me that my membership had expired and I discontinued opening the page.

Yesterday I received the monthly balance from my credit card bank indicating that your collecting company, XXXX kept charging my account although I was refused access after the first month. I just called up XXXX which told me that they had no way of retroactively canceling the charge of May 25.

Therefore, I request that you reimburse the charges made for the May service which was never provided. Of course I do not wish to continue my membership after the problems and aggravation your site has caused me. Please do not try to drag this out into a long legalistic spiel.

Thank you,

Wxxxx Nxxx


I then pulled the logs and he had accessed the site 100 times right up to the 25th June so I sent him this email.

Dear Mr. xxxx,

Either you have xxxxxx mixed up with another pay site that you are a member of or you are dishonest.

Below is a secure log of all the times you accessed xxxx when you say you didn't. If however you insist that you did not have access and make any chargebacks I will forward this information to your bank with the url http://www.xxxxx.com as proof that you had access on the dates that you claim you didn't.

Further to that I will create a "Cheating Members" page on xxxx with your email, name and this report so that other webmasters and members can see how you attempted to cheat.

Regards
Kevin

Accesses by [email protected]:
Date IP Result
Fri Apr 25 18:12:30 2003 205.188.208 badchars
Fri Apr 25 18:13:51 2003 205.188.208 badchars
Fri Apr 25 18:19:28 2003 209.076.165 ok
Sat Apr 26 8:39:33 2003 172.155.145 ok
Sat Apr 26 8:47:20 2003 172.155.145 ok
Sat Apr 26 8:55:21 2003 172.155.145 ok
Sat Apr 26 16:40:38 2003 172.200.132 ok
Sat Apr 26 21:41:07 2003 172.135.047 ok
Sun Apr 27 11:57:26 2003 205.188.208 ok
Sun Apr 27 21:03:33 2003 172.158.170 ok
Mon Apr 28 11:14:15 2003 172.143.169 ok
Tue Apr 29 10:28:45 2003 172.135.073 ok
Thu May 1 8:57:30 2003 172.141.115 ok
Thu May 1 8:57:33 2003 172.141.115 ok
Thu May 1 9:28:55 2003 172.141.115 ok
Fri May 2 7:59:41 2003 172.150.236 ok
Sat May 3 15:18:05 2003 172.167.136 ok
Sat May 3 15:24:28 2003 172.171.076 ok
Sat May 3 15:48:19 2003 172.171.076 ok
Sat May 3 16:20:37 2003 172.169.132 ok
Sat May 3 22:37:23 2003 172.170.135 ok
Sun May 4 14:38:22 2003 172.133.165 ok
Mon May 5 14:54:30 2003 172.143.168 ok
Mon May 5 23:21:10 2003 172.158.205 ok
Wed May 7 15:05:20 2003 172.158.086 ok
Wed May 7 16:11:02 2003 172.174.182 ok
Wed May 7 16:17:56 2003 172.174.182 ok
Wed May 7 20:46:18 2003 172.165.229 ok
Thu May 8 9:59:54 2003 172.140.158 ok
Thu May 8 10:40:01 2003 172.140.158 ok
Thu May 8 10:58:41 2003 172.140.158 ok
Thu May 8 10:58:44 2003 172.140.158 ok
Thu May 8 11:01:57 2003 172.140.158 ok
Thu May 8 11:10:53 2003 172.139.139 ok
Sat May 10 12:39:02 2003 172.150.124 ok
Sun May 11 17:04:58 2003 172.141.126 ok
Tue May 13 7:57:30 2003 172.138.168 ok
Tue May 13 7:57:33 2003 172.138.168 ok
Wed May 14 12:33:57 2003 172.152.208 ok
Wed May 14 13:03:51 2003 172.152.208 ok
Tue May 20 23:03:47 2003 172.136.219 ok
Thu May 22 10:01:18 2003 068.085.104 badpword
Thu May 22 10:04:50 2003 068.085.104 badpword
Thu May 22 10:04:56 2003 068.085.104 badpword
Thu May 22 10:07:04 2003 068.085.104 badpword
Thu May 22 10:15:48 2003 068.085.104 ok
Fri May 23 6:33:21 2003 068.085.104 ok
Fri May 23 8:35:56 2003 068.085.104 ok
Fri May 23 8:51:11 2003 068.085.104 ok
Fri May 23 9:04:21 2003 068.085.104 ok
Fri May 23 9:08:49 2003 068.085.104 ok
Fri May 23 9:12:33 2003 068.085.104 ok
Fri May 23 9:40:59 2003 068.085.104 ok
Sat May 24 6:24:42 2003 068.085.104 ok
Sat May 24 16:48:27 2003 068.085.104 ok
Sat May 24 23:43:31 2003 068.085.104 ok
Sun May 25 4:15:31 2003 068.085.104 ok
Mon Jun 2 12:43:07 2003 068.085.104 ok
Tue Jun 3 9:57:08 2003 068.085.104 ok
Tue Jun 3 22:18:39 2003 068.085.104 ok
Wed Jun 4 11:43:46 2003 068.085.104 ok
Wed Jun 4 22:37:15 2003 068.085.104 ok
Thu Jun 5 8:05:16 2003 068.085.104 ok
Thu Jun 5 20:46:12 2003 068.085.104 ok
Fri Jun 6 22:46:55 2003 068.085.104 ok
Sat Jun 7 21:17:35 2003 068.085.104 ok
Sun Jun 8 22:15:19 2003 172.153.113 ok
Mon Jun 9 21:44:02 2003 068.085.104 ok
Wed Jun 11 0:00:01 2003 068.085.104 ok
Wed Jun 11 8:04:33 2003 068.085.104 ok
Wed Jun 11 22:02:25 2003 068.085.104 ok
Thu Jun 12 7:10:09 2003 068.085.104 ok
Sat Jun 14 10:40:27 2003 172.142.027 ok
Sat Jun 14 16:07:36 2003 172.147.127 ok
Sun Jun 15 8:21:55 2003 068.085.104 ok
Mon Jun 16 0:46:26 2003 068.085.104 ok
Mon Jun 16 10:34:30 2003 068.085.104 ok
Mon Jun 16 23:49:52 2003 068.085.104 ok
Tue Jun 17 9:00:09 2003 068.085.104 ok
Tue Jun 17 13:49:06 2003 068.085.104 ok
Wed Jun 18 6:39:55 2003 068.085.104 ok
Wed Jun 18 11:17:55 2003 068.085.104 ok
Wed Jun 18 13:26:13 2003 068.085.104 ok
Wed Jun 18 13:41:06 2003 068.085.104 ok
Thu Jun 19 8:40:01 2003 068.085.104 ok
Fri Jun 20 7:03:51 2003 068.085.104 ok
Fri Jun 20 10:55:08 2003 068.085.104 ok
Sat Jun 21 9:44:38 2003 068.085.104 ok
Sat Jun 21 9:48:23 2003 068.085.104 ok
Sat Jun 21 21:44:49 2003 068.085.104 ok
Sat Jun 21 23:33:18 2003 068.085.104 ok
Sun Jun 22 16:34:57 2003 068.085.104 ok
Sun Jun 22 22:23:57 2003 068.085.104 ok
Mon Jun 23 9:47:22 2003 172.164.080 ok
Mon Jun 23 16:07:22 2003 172.138.074 ok
Mon Jun 23 22:03:04 2003 172.159.088 ok
Tue Jun 24 21:29:49 2003 172.139.176 ok
Wed Jun 25 20:53:24 2003 172.151.191 ok
Wed Jun 25 21:12:48 2003 068.085.104 ok
Wed Jun 25 22:44:35 2003 068.085.104 ok

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Old 06-26-2003, 07:20 PM   #2
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Old 06-26-2003, 07:21 PM   #3
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Please post his reply...if he's dumb enought to respond.
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Old 06-26-2003, 07:21 PM   #4
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nice,, what script to track members is that btw?
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Old 06-26-2003, 07:23 PM   #5
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ahh fuck, you can track accessing ip's?


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Old 06-26-2003, 07:30 PM   #6
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playa said:
> nice,, what script to track members is that btw?

That's a report from a security solution called StrongBox.
StrongBox is the only cryptographically secure defense
system for pay sites or AVS sites.

It protects against password trading, brute force attacks, spoofing, etc.
Unlike old fashioned username/password systems, it also works
with videos even with the newer versions of Media Player.

More info can be found here:
http://webmastersguide.com/?htaccess-cgi/strongbox/
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Old 06-26-2003, 08:00 PM   #7
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candyflip I will post his reply. That is if I ever hear from him again.

playa I see Ray beat me to it. We use Strong Box on all our sites and when a members login info has been compromised by brute force attacks or any other means the system removes the members access and then sends you an email so you can contact them with a new username and password.
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Old 06-26-2003, 08:01 PM   #8
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Old 06-26-2003, 11:35 PM   #9
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Well guys this is his reply
Dear Mr. Bxxxxx:

This is to inform you -- again -- that after a month of payment I was refused access to your website. I abandoned my claim and didn't concern myself with your site any longer. There neither is nor was any fraudulant intention on my part. Whatever the situation is, my subscription is hereby terminated.

Wxxx Nxxx:
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Old 06-26-2003, 11:48 PM   #10
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Old 06-27-2003, 09:06 AM   #11
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Well guys this is his reply
Dear Mr. Bxxxxx:

This is to inform you -- again -- that after a month of payment I was refused access to your website. I abandoned my claim and didn't concern myself with your site any longer. There neither is nor was any fraudulant intention on my part. Whatever the situation is, my subscription is hereby terminated.

Wxxx Nxxx:
Has he cancelled?
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Old 06-27-2003, 09:12 AM   #12
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Haha, fuck him. What a jerkoff. I hate it when people try to make their own screw-up look like your incompetence.
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