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MrPanama · 06-23-2003, 07:29 PM

Ok I spent $150 at spot brokers and didnt make a single sale. Not one, for that much money worth of traffic. Maybe you could blame my galleries or sponsors BUT:
- I used 5 different galleries, some made by me some made by other people
- I used 3 different sponsors.
- 7 different sets of girls.

So we cant exactly blame gallery design or sponsor. How can they sell such crappy traffic, I would much rather have spent that $150 towards a paid gallery listing on a TGP or something....

Just my experience, and I hope no-one else has such bad luck.

Spunky · 06-23-2003, 07:30 PM

$150 isn't really much to base anything on.

MrPanama · 06-23-2003, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spunky1
$150 isn't really much to base anything on.

Thats 120,000 visitors to the galleries, is that really not enough traffic to base it on?

FlyingIguana · 06-23-2003, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPanama
Ok I spent $150 at spot brokers and didnt make a single sale. Not one, for that much money worth of traffic. Maybe you could blame my galleries or sponsors BUT:
- I used 5 different galleries, some made by me some made by other people
- I used 3 different sponsors.
- 7 different sets of girls.

So we cant exactly blame gallery design or sponsor. How can they sell such crappy traffic, I would much rather have spent that $150 towards a paid gallery listing on a TGP or something....

Just my experience, and I hope no-one else has such bad luck.

do those same sponsors and galleries do well with other tgp's?

Pointless · 06-23-2003, 07:34 PM

150 dollars plus bandwidth plus content plus the cost of built galleries.

hope you do better next time

Backov · 06-23-2003, 07:36 PM

Sorry to hear it man. We canned some Russian cheaters this weekend, they were dragging our traffic quality down for a bit before we found em.

If anyone has bad luck with us, PLEASE let us know - we've got plenty of loyal buyers now (too many actually, we don't have enough traffic for them) - but we need to know when someone has bad results. It could be that some russian motherfucker has found some new list of proxies or what have you.

It's a continual battle with this kind of proggie.

I see your data - but was it all one niche? Get with me in email if you wanna give me details.

Cheers,
Backov

psyko514 · 06-23-2003, 07:36 PM

post the galleries.

MrPanama · 06-23-2003, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana

do those same sponsors and galleries do well with other tgp's?

Yup...all the sponsors and galleries had previuosly been listed on TGP's and made sales. Thats why I baught spot brokers traffic.

SexySarah · 06-23-2003, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spunky1
$150 isn't really much to base anything on.

I've noticed you're often the 1st reply in many threads.

Congrats.

neuromancer · 06-23-2003, 08:19 PM

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Originally posted by SexySarah

I've noticed you're often the 1st reply in many threads.

Congrats.

Sort of like how you always try your best to be 50 or 100, etc. Congrats.

SexySarah · 06-23-2003, 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by neuromancer

Sort of like you always try your best to be 50 or 100, etc. Congrats.

Woohoo

MrPanama · 06-23-2003, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Backov
Sorry to hear it man. We canned some Russian cheaters this weekend, they were dragging our traffic quality down for a bit before we found em.

If anyone has bad luck with us, PLEASE let us know - we've got plenty of loyal buyers now (too many actually, we don't have enough traffic for them) - but we need to know when someone has bad results. It could be that some russian motherfucker has found some new list of proxies or what have you.

It's a continual battle with this kind of proggie.

I see your data - but was it all one niche? Get with me in email if you wanna give me details.

Cheers,
Backov

No it was 3 different niches.
That sucks to hear about russians, maybe I got unlucky and got russian traffic.

I dont like posting negative things about a company on a public board, but I thought since it was $150 worth that I should share my experience. I guess some poeple do great with your traffic and some people dont.

Dveron · 06-23-2003, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by neuromancer

Sort of like how you always try your best to be 50 or 100, etc. Congrats.

Hah, owned.

Backov · 06-23-2003, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPanama

No it was 3 different niches.
That sucks to hear about russians, maybe I got unlucky and got russian traffic.

I dont like posting negative things about a company on a public board, but I thought since it was $150 worth that I should share my experience. I guess some poeple do great with your traffic and some people dont.

Ya I can dig it. Hit me up on ICQ (I've added you, so just come online or something..) I want to talk to you about this a bit.

Cheers,
Backov

SexySarah · 06-23-2003, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dveron

Hah, owned.

Really?

Didn't feel like it.

I thought he was just stating a fact.

Brad Mitchell · 06-23-2003, 08:26 PM

Backov is a great guy! You should send him an email as suggested.

Brad

Kimmykim · 06-23-2003, 08:30 PM

Mr Panama -- Backov has found your account. I'm not going to post anything specific about it, but I think it would be worth your time to have a talk in icq with Backov. We make some suggestions on the site about how to best see income from our traffic, things that work for not only us but the multitude of people who keep coming back for more traffic on a regular basis...

So anyway, I expect you two will get together and some good will come out of this --

As for the cheaters, they weren't around long enough to have done any harm to your account, but Backov's going to allocate you some traffic on us in any case, so you can play with it.

Snake Doctor · 06-23-2003, 08:30 PM

120K spread across 5 galleries really isn't much of a sampling to make conclusions on.

But its good of Backov to be willing to work something out with you.

Steve · 06-23-2003, 08:34 PM

It might be fairer to base this on 150,000 hits to one gallery, not 3+ in three niches.

Not knocking you, as I have had similar results to yours from a different/similar traffic source. It's just hard to get a solid feel for traffic quality off only 50k of gallery hits.

Choker · 06-23-2003, 08:34 PM

KK what is your email addy? I need to talk to you about a urgent matter. Thanks

Steve · 06-23-2003, 08:36 PM

I think it's a positive sign for Spot Brokers to be so pro-active with their buyers. Looks like KK and Backov are among the few who want to establish a solid working relationship that works for all parties.

neuromancer · 06-23-2003, 08:36 PM

What does spotbrokers recommend as a good amount of traffic to send to a single gallery? With your traffic, is it better to send less traffic to more galls, or more traffic to less galls?

Backov · 06-23-2003, 08:39 PM

More traffic to less gals is better for determining how good the gallery is - but once you're sure that the galleries are working, you can spread it around. the problem is if you spread it around a lot, you never know if the gallery(s) are inducing them to clickthrough.

Mr.Fiction · 06-23-2003, 08:43 PM

Fucking crybabies.

I never even look at my stats until I've sent 15 to 20 million uniques to a gallery. Anything less than that and you can't really tell if it's working or not.

Now, it's time for quiet to post his stats.

Backov · 06-23-2003, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steve
I think it's a positive sign for Spot Brokers to be so pro-active with their buyers. Looks like KK and Backov are among the few who want to establish a solid working relationship that works for all parties.

If it doesn't work for all parties, then it won't last. The buyers have got to be happy, the sellers have to be happy, and we have to be at least somewhat happy, otherwise the system just goes away.

I recieved my biz training in a "co-op" course, where I was indocrinated in the "win-win" school of biz, which doesn't seem to fit too well in the porn world sometimes, but I try to do it.

neuromancer · 06-23-2003, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Backov
More traffic to less gals is better for determining how good the gallery is - but once you're sure that the galleries are working, you can spread it around. the problem is if you spread it around a lot, you never know if the gallery(s) are inducing them to clickthrough.

Hmm. How much of your traffic is different each day, and how much is the same daily surfers (if you care to divulge)? Thanks Backov.

Kimmykim · 06-23-2003, 08:49 PM

I am sales@ Choker -- or you can icq me -- 1 01 69 619, I think you had me on there before

Backov · 06-23-2003, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by neuromancer

Hmm. How much of your traffic is different each day, and how much is the same daily surfers (if you care to divulge)? Thanks Backov.

No good way to tell that. With so many tgps involved I can't imagine how you would calculate that.

neuromancer · 06-23-2003, 08:52 PM

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Originally posted by Backov

No good way to tell that. With so many tgps involved I can't imagine how you would calculate that.

That's what I thought. Thanks...

wiZd0m · 06-23-2003, 08:59 PM

Bakov traffic is good if you have a clue on what your doing. I spended 1800$ so far this month at Spotbrokers alone. If he had more traffic to sell me, I'd buy more.

Something not right, either you need help with your galleries or your sponsor is shit.

The idea I think is to get the thing out there, so large numbers of people can see what you have to sell. At some point, you'll like reach the critical mass for your product and the money is just gonna fall off the sky.

MrPanama · 06-23-2003, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steve
I think it's a positive sign for Spot Brokers to be so pro-active with their buyers. Looks like KK and Backov are among the few who want to establish a solid working relationship that works for all parties.

Yes I am truly amazed at the great customer service. They contacted me right away about the matter, and were very friendly. I wish more companies were like this.

I got some great tips on how to use good galleries and sponsors, and I am trying some more traffic. I well keep everyone updated on the success.....

SexySarah · 06-23-2003, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPanama

Yes I am truly amazed at the great customer service. They contacted me right away about the matter, and were very friendly. I wish more companies were like this.

I got some great tips on how get use good galleries and sponsors, and I am trying some more traffic. I well keep everyone updated on the success.....

So they've already turned you into a repeat customer?

How to do good business ...

SleazyDream · 06-23-2003, 09:08 PM

last I heard the cheapest gallery you could buy on sleazydream was $200 (and that was the bulk rate too).... although I havn't checked the the prices recently - that's all handled by cybercat. if you want to know what current prices are contact [email protected]

some people I know make a lot of money from sporbrokers, me thinks it's YOU who is doing something wrong. $150 isn't much of a test.

skazzel · 06-23-2003, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
...some people I know make a lot of money from spo(t)brokers

Yeah, Backov and KimmyKim

SleazyDream · 06-23-2003, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by skazzel

Yeah, Backov and KimmyKim

you're a fool.

actually there's still in the building stage and not hugly profitable yet.

they have good traffic

Kimmykim · 06-23-2003, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream

you're a fool.

actually there's still in the building stage and not hugly profitable yet.

they have good traffic

Shhhh, you know we're trying to be 3l33T !!!!

skazzel · 06-23-2003, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream

you're a fool.

actually there's still in the building stage and not hugly profitable yet.

they have good traffic

lol, it was a joke, really. Their margins seem pretty good to me, but someone must be making a profit off of buying from them or they would have trouble selling traffic.

SGS · 06-24-2003, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SinEmpire
Backov is a great guy! You should send him an email as suggested.

Brad

He is a good guy and great to do business with.

stocktrader23 · 06-24-2003, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by skazzel

lol, it was a joke, really. Their margins seem pretty good to me, but someone must be making a profit off of buying from them or they would have trouble selling traffic.

The margins seem amazing actually.

xxweekxx · 06-24-2003, 02:56 AM

Kimmykim is a hot bitch. I would buy traffic from spotbrokers just cause of her.. I mean she is an old bitch but shes still fuckable.

Jakke PNG · 06-24-2003, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxweekxx
Kimmykim is a hot bitch. I would buy traffic from spotbrokers just cause of her.. I mean she is an old bitch but shes still fuckable.

I just bought a bit of traffic from, only because of that reason.

Anyone have any idea how long until galleries are accepted usually?

xxweekxx · 06-24-2003, 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TeenGodFather

I just bought a bit of traffic from, only because of that reason.

Anyone have any idea how long until galleries are accepted usually?

who knows. I want to cum in kimmykim's ears

JDog · 06-24-2003, 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPanama

Thats 120,000 visitors to the galleries, is that really not enough traffic to base it on?

not productive traffic at all. i tried sex.com and i got pretty damn good productivity. 200%

jDoG

Jakke PNG · 06-24-2003, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxweekxx

who knows. I want to cum in kimmykim's ears

Not my #1 fantasy, I'd do other naughty things to her though... anywaysmy #1 fantasy is to make my money back on spotbrokers ;)

xxweekxx · 06-24-2003, 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TeenGodFather

Not my #1 fantasy, I'd do other naughty things to her though... anywaysmy #1 fantasy is to make my money back on spotbrokers ;)

my #1 fantasy is to blow my load in kimmy kim's eyes!@#@

HungSolo · 06-24-2003, 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxweekxx
Kimmykim is a hot bitch. I would buy traffic from spotbrokers just cause of her.. I mean she is an old bitch but shes still fuckable.

JamesK · 06-24-2003, 03:44 AM

I also noticed the traffic from SpotBrokers sucked dick. I didn't really spend a lot of money, but normally I convert 1:400 at least with gallery traffic. But my traffic from spotbrokers converted 1:1200, and the sale was only a fucking trial.

06-24-2003, 04:00 AM

I know this is all settled, but for future, contact the company you've done business with before you come on a public board and bad mouth them to the world.

06-23-2003, 07:30 PM	#2
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06-23-2003, 07:34 PM	#5
Pointless Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 2,142	150 dollars plus bandwidth plus content plus the cost of built galleries. hope you do better next time __________________ 355 north Adultdatelink.com

06-23-2003, 07:36 PM	#6
Backov Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Cat Detector Van Posts: 1,600	Sorry to hear it man. We canned some Russian cheaters this weekend, they were dragging our traffic quality down for a bit before we found em. If anyone has bad luck with us, PLEASE let us know - we've got plenty of loyal buyers now (too many actually, we don't have enough traffic for them) - but we need to know when someone has bad results. It could be that some russian motherfucker has found some new list of proxies or what have you. It's a continual battle with this kind of proggie. I see your data - but was it all one niche? Get with me in email if you wanna give me details. Cheers, Backov __________________ <embed src="http://banners.spotbrokers.com/button.swf" FlashVars="clickURL=http://banners.spotbrokers.com" quality=high pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="120" height="60"></embed>

06-23-2003, 07:36 PM	#7
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06-23-2003, 08:26 PM	#16
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06-23-2003, 07:29 PM	#1
MrPanama Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 815	SpotBrokers - Waste of my money Ok I spent $150 at spot brokers and didnt make a single sale. Not one, for that much money worth of traffic. Maybe you could blame my galleries or sponsors BUT: - I used 5 different galleries, some made by me some made by other people - I used 3 different sponsors. - 7 different sets of girls. So we cant exactly blame gallery design or sponsor. How can they sell such crappy traffic, I would much rather have spent that $150 towards a paid gallery listing on a TGP or something.... Just my experience, and I hope no-one else has such bad luck. __________________ MrPanama SUBMIT GALLERIES HERE Email: [email protected] ICQ# 76099000

06-23-2003, 08:30 PM	#17
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Mr Panama -- Backov has found your account. I'm not going to post anything specific about it, but I think it would be worth your time to have a talk in icq with Backov. We make some suggestions on the site about how to best see income from our traffic, things that work for not only us but the multitude of people who keep coming back for more traffic on a regular basis... So anyway, I expect you two will get together and some good will come out of this -- As for the cheaters, they weren't around long enough to have done any harm to your account, but Backov's going to allocate you some traffic on us in any case, so you can play with it.

06-23-2003, 08:30 PM	#18
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	120K spread across 5 galleries really isn't much of a sampling to make conclusions on. But its good of Backov to be willing to work something out with you. __________________ sig too big

06-23-2003, 08:34 PM	#19
Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,894	It might be fairer to base this on 150,000 hits to one gallery, not 3+ in three niches. Not knocking you, as I have had similar results to yours from a different/similar traffic source. It's just hard to get a solid feel for traffic quality off only 50k of gallery hits.

06-23-2003, 08:34 PM	#20
Choker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Orlando Posts: 9,024	KK what is your email addy? I need to talk to you about a urgent matter. Thanks __________________ ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

06-23-2003, 08:36 PM	#21
Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,894	I think it's a positive sign for Spot Brokers to be so pro-active with their buyers. Looks like KK and Backov are among the few who want to establish a solid working relationship that works for all parties.

06-23-2003, 08:36 PM	#22
neuromancer Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 281	What does spotbrokers recommend as a good amount of traffic to send to a single gallery? With your traffic, is it better to send less traffic to more galls, or more traffic to less galls?

06-23-2003, 08:39 PM	#23
Backov Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Cat Detector Van Posts: 1,600	More traffic to less gals is better for determining how good the gallery is - but once you're sure that the galleries are working, you can spread it around. the problem is if you spread it around a lot, you never know if the gallery(s) are inducing them to clickthrough. __________________ <embed src="http://banners.spotbrokers.com/button.swf" FlashVars="clickURL=http://banners.spotbrokers.com" quality=high pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="120" height="60"></embed>

06-23-2003, 08:43 PM	#24
Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	Fucking crybabies. I never even look at my stats until I've sent 15 to 20 million uniques to a gallery. Anything less than that and you can't really tell if it's working or not. Now, it's time for quiet to post his stats.

06-23-2003, 08:49 PM	#27
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	I am sales@ Choker -- or you can icq me -- 1 01 69 619, I think you had me on there before

06-23-2003, 08:59 PM	#30
wiZd0m Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,526	Bakov traffic is good if you have a clue on what your doing. I spended 1800$ so far this month at Spotbrokers alone. If he had more traffic to sell me, I'd buy more. Something not right, either you need help with your galleries or your sponsor is shit. The idea I think is to get the thing out there, so large numbers of people can see what you have to sell. At some point, you'll like reach the critical mass for your product and the money is just gonna fall off the sky.

06-23-2003, 09:08 PM	#33
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	last I heard the cheapest gallery you could buy on sleazydream was $200 (and that was the bulk rate too).... although I havn't checked the the prices recently - that's all handled by cybercat. if you want to know what current prices are contact [email protected] some people I know make a lot of money from sporbrokers, me thinks it's YOU who is doing something wrong. $150 isn't much of a test. __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

06-24-2003, 02:56 AM	#40
xxweekxx Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,780	Kimmykim is a hot bitch. I would buy traffic from spotbrokers just cause of her.. I mean she is an old bitch but shes still fuckable.

06-24-2003, 03:44 AM	#47
JamesK hi Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 16,731	I also noticed the traffic from SpotBrokers sucked dick. I didn't really spend a lot of money, but normally I convert 1:400 at least with gallery traffic. But my traffic from spotbrokers converted 1:1200, and the sale was only a fucking trial. __________________ M3Server - NATS Hosting

06-24-2003, 04:00 AM	#48
shermo Guest Posts: n/a	I know this is all settled, but for future, contact the company you've done business with before you come on a public board and bad mouth them to the world.