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MrPanama 06-23-2003 07:29 PM

SpotBrokers - Waste of my money
 
Ok I spent $150 at spot brokers and didnt make a single sale. Not one, for that much money worth of traffic. Maybe you could blame my galleries or sponsors BUT:
- I used 5 different galleries, some made by me some made by other people
- I used 3 different sponsors.
- 7 different sets of girls.

So we cant exactly blame gallery design or sponsor. How can they sell such crappy traffic, I would much rather have spent that $150 towards a paid gallery listing on a TGP or something....

Just my experience, and I hope no-one else has such bad luck.

Spunky 06-23-2003 07:30 PM

$150 isn't really much to base anything on.

MrPanama 06-23-2003 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spunky1
$150 isn't really much to base anything on.
Thats 120,000 visitors to the galleries, is that really not enough traffic to base it on?

FlyingIguana 06-23-2003 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPanama
Ok I spent $150 at spot brokers and didnt make a single sale. Not one, for that much money worth of traffic. Maybe you could blame my galleries or sponsors BUT:
- I used 5 different galleries, some made by me some made by other people
- I used 3 different sponsors.
- 7 different sets of girls.

So we cant exactly blame gallery design or sponsor. How can they sell such crappy traffic, I would much rather have spent that $150 towards a paid gallery listing on a TGP or something....

Just my experience, and I hope no-one else has such bad luck.

do those same sponsors and galleries do well with other tgp's?

Pointless 06-23-2003 07:34 PM

150 dollars plus bandwidth plus content plus the cost of built galleries.

hope you do better next time :)

Backov 06-23-2003 07:36 PM

Sorry to hear it man. We canned some Russian cheaters this weekend, they were dragging our traffic quality down for a bit before we found em.

If anyone has bad luck with us, PLEASE let us know - we've got plenty of loyal buyers now (too many actually, we don't have enough traffic for them) - but we need to know when someone has bad results. It could be that some russian motherfucker has found some new list of proxies or what have you.

It's a continual battle with this kind of proggie.

I see your data - but was it all one niche? Get with me in email if you wanna give me details.

Cheers,
Backov

psyko514 06-23-2003 07:36 PM

post the galleries.

MrPanama 06-23-2003 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana


do those same sponsors and galleries do well with other tgp's?

Yup...all the sponsors and galleries had previuosly been listed on TGP's and made sales. Thats why I baught spot brokers traffic.

SexySarah 06-23-2003 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spunky1
$150 isn't really much to base anything on.
I've noticed you're often the 1st reply in many threads.

Congrats.

neuromancer 06-23-2003 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SexySarah


I've noticed you're often the 1st reply in many threads.

Congrats.

Sort of like how you always try your best to be 50 or 100, etc. Congrats.

SexySarah 06-23-2003 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by neuromancer


Sort of like you always try your best to be 50 or 100, etc. Congrats.

Woohoo

MrPanama 06-23-2003 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Backov
Sorry to hear it man. We canned some Russian cheaters this weekend, they were dragging our traffic quality down for a bit before we found em.

If anyone has bad luck with us, PLEASE let us know - we've got plenty of loyal buyers now (too many actually, we don't have enough traffic for them) - but we need to know when someone has bad results. It could be that some russian motherfucker has found some new list of proxies or what have you.

It's a continual battle with this kind of proggie.

I see your data - but was it all one niche? Get with me in email if you wanna give me details.

Cheers,
Backov

No it was 3 different niches.
That sucks to hear about russians, maybe I got unlucky and got russian traffic.

I dont like posting negative things about a company on a public board, but I thought since it was $150 worth that I should share my experience. I guess some poeple do great with your traffic and some people dont.

Dveron 06-23-2003 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by neuromancer


Sort of like how you always try your best to be 50 or 100, etc. Congrats.

Hah, owned.

Backov 06-23-2003 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPanama


No it was 3 different niches.
That sucks to hear about russians, maybe I got unlucky and got russian traffic.

I dont like posting negative things about a company on a public board, but I thought since it was $150 worth that I should share my experience. I guess some poeple do great with your traffic and some people dont.

Ya I can dig it. Hit me up on ICQ (I've added you, so just come online or something..) I want to talk to you about this a bit.

Cheers,
Backov

SexySarah 06-23-2003 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dveron


Hah, owned.

Really?

Didn't feel like it.

I thought he was just stating a fact.

:1orglaugh

Brad Mitchell 06-23-2003 08:26 PM

Backov is a great guy! You should send him an email as suggested.

Brad

Kimmykim 06-23-2003 08:30 PM

Mr Panama -- Backov has found your account. I'm not going to post anything specific about it, but I think it would be worth your time to have a talk in icq with Backov. We make some suggestions on the site about how to best see income from our traffic, things that work for not only us but the multitude of people who keep coming back for more traffic on a regular basis...

So anyway, I expect you two will get together and some good will come out of this --

As for the cheaters, they weren't around long enough to have done any harm to your account, but Backov's going to allocate you some traffic on us in any case, so you can play with it.

Snake Doctor 06-23-2003 08:30 PM

120K spread across 5 galleries really isn't much of a sampling to make conclusions on.

But its good of Backov to be willing to work something out with you.

Steve 06-23-2003 08:34 PM

It might be fairer to base this on 150,000 hits to one gallery, not 3+ in three niches.

Not knocking you, as I have had similar results to yours from a different/similar traffic source. It's just hard to get a solid feel for traffic quality off only 50k of gallery hits.

Choker 06-23-2003 08:34 PM

KK what is your email addy? I need to talk to you about a urgent matter. Thanks

Steve 06-23-2003 08:36 PM

I think it's a positive sign for Spot Brokers to be so pro-active with their buyers. Looks like KK and Backov are among the few who want to establish a solid working relationship that works for all parties.

neuromancer 06-23-2003 08:36 PM

What does spotbrokers recommend as a good amount of traffic to send to a single gallery? With your traffic, is it better to send less traffic to more galls, or more traffic to less galls?

Backov 06-23-2003 08:39 PM

More traffic to less gals is better for determining how good the gallery is - but once you're sure that the galleries are working, you can spread it around. the problem is if you spread it around a lot, you never know if the gallery(s) are inducing them to clickthrough.

Mr.Fiction 06-23-2003 08:43 PM

Fucking crybabies.

I never even look at my stats until I've sent 15 to 20 million uniques to a gallery. Anything less than that and you can't really tell if it's working or not.

Now, it's time for quiet to post his stats.

Backov 06-23-2003 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steve
I think it's a positive sign for Spot Brokers to be so pro-active with their buyers. Looks like KK and Backov are among the few who want to establish a solid working relationship that works for all parties.
If it doesn't work for all parties, then it won't last. The buyers have got to be happy, the sellers have to be happy, and we have to be at least somewhat happy, otherwise the system just goes away.

I recieved my biz training in a "co-op" course, where I was indocrinated in the "win-win" school of biz, which doesn't seem to fit too well in the porn world sometimes, but I try to do it.

neuromancer 06-23-2003 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Backov
More traffic to less gals is better for determining how good the gallery is - but once you're sure that the galleries are working, you can spread it around. the problem is if you spread it around a lot, you never know if the gallery(s) are inducing them to clickthrough.
Hmm. How much of your traffic is different each day, and how much is the same daily surfers (if you care to divulge)? Thanks Backov.

Kimmykim 06-23-2003 08:49 PM

I am sales@ Choker -- or you can icq me -- 1 01 69 619, I think you had me on there before

Backov 06-23-2003 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by neuromancer


Hmm. How much of your traffic is different each day, and how much is the same daily surfers (if you care to divulge)? Thanks Backov.

No good way to tell that. With so many tgps involved I can't imagine how you would calculate that.

neuromancer 06-23-2003 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Backov


No good way to tell that. With so many tgps involved I can't imagine how you would calculate that.

That's what I thought. Thanks...

wiZd0m 06-23-2003 08:59 PM

Bakov traffic is good if you have a clue on what your doing. I spended 1800$ so far this month at Spotbrokers alone. If he had more traffic to sell me, I'd buy more.

Something not right, either you need help with your galleries or your sponsor is shit.

The idea I think is to get the thing out there, so large numbers of people can see what you have to sell. At some point, you'll like reach the critical mass for your product and the money is just gonna fall off the sky.

MrPanama 06-23-2003 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steve
I think it's a positive sign for Spot Brokers to be so pro-active with their buyers. Looks like KK and Backov are among the few who want to establish a solid working relationship that works for all parties.
Yes I am truly amazed at the great customer service. They contacted me right away about the matter, and were very friendly. I wish more companies were like this.

I got some great tips on how to use good galleries and sponsors, and I am trying some more traffic. I well keep everyone updated on the success.....

SexySarah 06-23-2003 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPanama


Yes I am truly amazed at the great customer service. They contacted me right away about the matter, and were very friendly. I wish more companies were like this.

I got some great tips on how get use good galleries and sponsors, and I am trying some more traffic. I well keep everyone updated on the success.....

So they've already turned you into a repeat customer?

How to do good business ...

SleazyDream 06-23-2003 09:08 PM

last I heard the cheapest gallery you could buy on sleazydream was $200 (and that was the bulk rate too).... although I havn't checked the the prices recently - that's all handled by cybercat. if you want to know what current prices are contact [email protected]

some people I know make a lot of money from sporbrokers, me thinks it's YOU who is doing something wrong. $150 isn't much of a test.

skazzel 06-23-2003 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
...some people I know make a lot of money from spo(t)brokers
Yeah, Backov and KimmyKim :1orglaugh

SleazyDream 06-23-2003 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by skazzel


Yeah, Backov and KimmyKim :1orglaugh

you're a fool.

actually there's still in the building stage and not hugly profitable yet.

they have good traffic

Kimmykim 06-23-2003 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream


you're a fool.

actually there's still in the building stage and not hugly profitable yet.

they have good traffic

Shhhh, you know we're trying to be 3l33T !!!!

skazzel 06-23-2003 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream


you're a fool.

actually there's still in the building stage and not hugly profitable yet.

they have good traffic

lol, it was a joke, really. Their margins seem pretty good to me, but someone must be making a profit off of buying from them or they would have trouble selling traffic. :thumbsup

SGS 06-24-2003 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SinEmpire
Backov is a great guy! You should send him an email as suggested.

Brad

He is a good guy and great to do business with. :thumbsup

stocktrader23 06-24-2003 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by skazzel


lol, it was a joke, really. Their margins seem pretty good to me, but someone must be making a profit off of buying from them or they would have trouble selling traffic. :thumbsup

The margins seem amazing actually.

xxweekxx 06-24-2003 02:56 AM

Kimmykim is a hot bitch. I would buy traffic from spotbrokers just cause of her.. I mean she is an old bitch but shes still fuckable.

Jakke PNG 06-24-2003 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxweekxx
Kimmykim is a hot bitch. I would buy traffic from spotbrokers just cause of her.. I mean she is an old bitch but shes still fuckable.
I just bought a bit of traffic from, only because of that reason. :)

Anyone have any idea how long until galleries are accepted usually? :)

xxweekxx 06-24-2003 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TeenGodFather

I just bought a bit of traffic from, only because of that reason. :)

Anyone have any idea how long until galleries are accepted usually? :)


who knows. I want to cum in kimmykim's ears

JDog 06-24-2003 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPanama


Thats 120,000 visitors to the galleries, is that really not enough traffic to base it on?

not productive traffic at all. i tried sex.com and i got pretty damn good productivity. 200%

jDoG

Jakke PNG 06-24-2003 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxweekxx



who knows. I want to cum in kimmykim's ears

Not my #1 fantasy, I'd do other naughty things to her though... anywaysmy #1 fantasy is to make my money back on spotbrokers ;)

xxweekxx 06-24-2003 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TeenGodFather


Not my #1 fantasy, I'd do other naughty things to her though... anywaysmy #1 fantasy is to make my money back on spotbrokers ;)

my #1 fantasy is to blow my load in kimmy kim's eyes!@#@

HungSolo 06-24-2003 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxweekxx
Kimmykim is a hot bitch. I would buy traffic from spotbrokers just cause of her.. I mean she is an old bitch but shes still fuckable.
:1orglaugh

JamesK 06-24-2003 03:44 AM

I also noticed the traffic from SpotBrokers sucked dick. I didn't really spend a lot of money, but normally I convert 1:400 at least with gallery traffic. But my traffic from spotbrokers converted 1:1200, and the sale was only a fucking trial.

shermo 06-24-2003 04:00 AM

I know this is all settled, but for future, contact the company you've done business with before you come on a public board and bad mouth them to the world. :2 cents:


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