Bush: "He had illegal weapons"

[MrPopup]

Radio Address From Today

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Good morning.

Ten weeks have passed since the fall of the Iraqi regime. Since that time, our work in Iraq has focused on two goals.

First, we are working to make Iraq secure for its citizens and our military. Second, we are working to improve the lives of the Iraqi people after three decades of tyranny and oppression.

Making Iraq secure is vitally important for both Iraqi citizens and our own forces. The men and women of our military face a continuing risk of danger and sacrifice in Iraq. Dangerous pockets of the old regime remain loyal to it and they, along with their terrorist allies, are behind deadly attacks designed to kill and intimidate coalition forces and innocent Iraqis. Our military is acting decisively against these threats. In Operation Peninsula Strike and Operation Desert Scorpion, our forces have targeted Baath party loyalists and terrorist organizations.

In Baghdad, more than 28,000 American combat forces and military police are enforcing the law and arresting criminals. We are also training Iraqis to begin policing their own cities. As we establish order and justice in Iraq, we also continue to pursue Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction. Military and intelligence officials are interviewing scientists with knowledge of Saddam Hussein's weapons programs and are poring over hundreds of thousands of documents.

<b>For more than a decade, Saddam Hussein went to great lengths to hide his weapons from the world. And in the regime's final days, documents and suspected weapons sites were looted and burned. Yet all who know the dictator's history agree that he possessed chemical and biological weapons and that he used chemical weapons in the past.

The intelligence services of many nations concluded that he had illegal weapons and the regime refused to provide evidence they had been destroyed. We are determined to discover the true extent of Saddam Hussein's weapons programs, no matter how long it takes.</b>

To date, the United States has provided Iraq with more than $700 million in humanitarian and reconstruction assistance. This month the World Food Program is distributing food rations to about 25 million Iraqis.

America and our partners are also repairing water treatment plants to provide more clean water. Each week, through our efforts, more electricity is made available to more people throughout the country.

And after years of neglect, Iraq's 4.2 million children under the age of five are receiving vaccinations against diseases such as polio, measles and tuberculosis.

Iraq's long-term success also depends on economic development. Our administrator in Iraq has announced a $100 million fund to pay Iraqis to repair buildings and utilities. Billions of dollars taken from Iraqis by a corrupt regime have been recovered and will be spent on reconstruction projects.

Iraq is already in the process of selling oil on world markets, which will bring in much needed revenue to help the Iraqi people.

This week the port at Umm Qasar opened to commercial traffic, and Baghdad International Airport is expected to reopen next month. For the first time in over a decade, Iraq will soon be open to the world. And the influence of progress in Iraq will be felt throughout the Middle East.

Over time, a free government in Iraq will demonstrate that liberty can flourish in that region.

American service-members continue to risk their lives to ensure the liberation of Iraq. I'm grateful for their service, and so are the Iraqi people. Many Iraqis are experiencing the jobs and responsibilities of freedom for the first time in their lives. And they are unafraid.

As one Iraqi man said, "We are ready to rebuild our country." For the people of free Iraq, the road ahead holds great challenges. Yet at every turn, they will have friendship and support from the United States of America.

Thank you for listening.

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bwuhahahah
how can they still say that when the head of the DIA has announced that they informed Bush there were NO WMD just one week before the war?

[directfiesta]

Just more weekly lies and ' embellishment'.....

Like this:

'Truth was a stretchable fabric'

America realises the daring rescue was not all it seemed at the time

Saturday June 21, 2003
The Guardian

Daily Variety Editorial, June 18

"The 'Saving Jessica Lynch' saga gets weirder by the day ... Early accounts circulated by the military portrayed her as the ultimate heroine, suffering gunshot and stab wounds as she mowed down Iraqi soldiers with her M-16. The Lynch story fired up troops and helped counter anti-war protests at home. Amid the tidal wave of media coverage, NBC made a pact to do a TV movie. In the months since, revisionist history has crept into the Lynch affair...

....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story...982185,00.html

[=^..^=]

hahah Ive got a home vid somewhere here of me , seeing that on the news and the first thing i said was
"i bet after the war is over they'll leak that this story was all propoganda - she probably never even got shot - they probably filmed it somewhere in new mexico, using ex-iraqis living in the US who are against saddam to act as his soldiers and make out it was in the middle east"


haha its all coming true

[directfiesta]

Originally posted by MrPopup
Radio Address From Today

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First, we are working to make Iraq secure for its citizens and our military. Second, we are working to improve the lives of the Iraqi people after three decades of tyranny and oppression.

Making Iraq secure is vitally important for both Iraqi citizens and our own forces.
....

As one Iraqi man said, "We are ready to rebuild our country." For the people of free Iraq, the road ahead holds great challenges. Yet at every turn, they will have friendship and support from the United States of America.

GWB probably got that text from "Harry Potter"....

seems different here:

"I hoped and I wished that when the American forces came they would bring us democracy and freedom but unfortunately we have seen the opposite," said Hussein, a non-commissioned officer in the air force for the past 18 years. "The Americans are going to get hurt if the situation remains as it is."

...
It is all too clear that the natural goodwill that many Iraqis felt when the US and British forces brought to an end three decades of brutality and repression is rapidly fading. "There is a big gap between the Iraqis and the Americans right now," said Khadum. ...

Alia Abbas Issa, 42, used to work in the palace as a seamstress, sewing curtains for Saddam's offices and private rooms. She took the job to help pay for English lessons at the local British Council office. It paid her well, up to 200,000 dinars (£2000) a month. Then came the war. Her apartment was looted of all her possessions, even her bed, and her job disappeared. She is left caring for the two daughters of her younger brother, who died in Kuwait during the first Gulf war. "There is nothing I can tell them. We used to have money now there is nothing. We cry from night until morning," she said.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story...980453,00.html


Freedom and liberation never looked so goods....

[Paul Markham]

They invade a country, kill thousands and destroy the infrastructure. All on the thinnest of reasons. Then they want to be called nice guys for putting all right while they look for reasons to invade more countries.

[hottoddy]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...mi_ea/iraq_131

[Brown Bear]

Wag The Dog

[directfiesta]

[theking]

A recent poll taken inside Iraq (if I remember the news report correctly the poll involved 5,000 Iraqi's) showed more than 60% of Iraqi's approve of the US forces being in Iraq and want them to stay until a Democracy is established and the Country is stabilized.

[directfiesta]

Originally posted by theking
A recent poll taken inside Iraq (if I remember the news report correctly the poll involved 5,000 Iraqi's) showed more than 60% of Iraqi's approve of the US forces being in Iraq and want them to stay until a Democracy is established and the Country is stabilized.

lol.... proof?

"Washington was warned again and again by its friends that it had to plan the peace every bit as meticulously as it planned the preceding war. It is now patently evident that the Americans did no such thing. They expected to be loved and have flowers pushed into the barrels of their guns, not rocks hurled at their heads. Through a profound lack of understanding of the complexities and subtleties of Iraq and its history, they have miscalculated and do not know what to do next.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story...981120,00.html

[Mike AI]

I love these threads!!

Keep them up!!

It is nice to have comedy relief!!!

Even if all you say is true, doesn't it suck on your part to be so hip and in tune with the "real world" but cannot do anything about it?

[directfiesta]

Originally posted by Mike AI
...doesn't it suck on your part to be so hip and in tune with the "real world" but cannot do anything about it?

Not really. Pretty comfy here...

But I think it does suck for the families of the 50 US soldiers that were killed since the war " ended" ( BTW, Britts have no casualty. I could post a link to why that is, but I don't want to get you too excited...lol).

Why not leave??? Sadaam is gone, his party is gone, people are organizing and ... there are obviously no WMD...

[Mike AI]

Direct Fiesta, I did not come to debate... I am just watching....

Please continue, I am a fly on the wall....

[galleryseek]

bush is right, hes always been right.

[directfiesta]

Originally posted by MrPopup
Radio Address From Today

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...

To date, the United States has provided Iraq with more than $700 million in humanitarian and reconstruction assistance. This month the World Food Program is distributing food rations to about 25 million Iraqis.

In addition, Bush said, reconstruction of the battered country is being funded by the recovery of some money hoarded by members of Saddam's government as well as initial sales of Iraqi oil on world markets.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlates...817446,00.html

Three Kings????

[theking]

Originally posted by directfiesta

lol.... proof?

It was reported either on CNN or FOX News a couple of days ago...and if I remember correctly it may have been a British polling organization...but I didn't really pay that much attention. The same poll said that over 90% of the Iraqis polled thought the US was moving to slowly in restoring services, rebuilding, and restoring order...but it is silly to think that every thing will be done in a couple of months and it will probably take a couple of years. There were more results in the poll but I don't remember them all.

[jim manly]

who cares?

cept all the retards in here

[directfiesta]

Originally posted by jim manly
who cares?

cept all the retards in here

[Centurion]

Originally posted by theking
A recent poll taken inside Iraq (if I remember the news report correctly the poll involved 5,000 Iraqi's) showed more than 60% of Iraqi's approve of the US forces being in Iraq and want them to stay until a Democracy is established and the Country is stabilized.

With several G.I. standing their with their weapons, I'd probably vote YES also.

Come on, you really think this poll is anywhere close to accurate?
How many did they interview? FIFTY? All currently on the U.S. payroll, and even then couldn't get a 100% approval vote!

[Webby]

The intelligence services of many nations concluded that he had illegal weapons and the regime refused to provide evidence they had been destroyed.

Shit! The continuing saga of total bullshit and blatant lying rolls on... hell knows what for! Must be to "proove" lies are truth.

This pathetic asshole in the White House needs to be informed of the *actual* truth - even US intelligence services and those of "our partners" did not conclude Saddam had "illegal weapons".
(Tho some also did not "conclude" he didn't have em either).

Is the US totally awash with utter crap propaganda? Sad shit!!

What a pathetic excuse for a government...

[Webby]

A recent poll taken inside Iraq (if I remember the news report correctly the poll involved 5,000 Iraqi's) showed more than 60% of Iraqi's approve of the US forces being in Iraq and want them to stay until a Democracy is established and the Country is stabilized.

Don't talk still more shit king..

Anyone done any "polls" yet to see how many were killed in Iraq other than US forces? A rough estimate would be fine

[Brujah]

Bush also said "Islam is Peace." I believe him. Don't you ?

[Webby]

Bush also said "Islam is Peace." I believe him. Don't you ?

He ain't got one clue about either Islam or peace and has zero qualification to talk about either.

[wonton]

As Wonton has been saying for more than a year:

* The Bush admin had foreknowledge of 911 and did nothing to prevent it. In fact, they covertly encouraged it.

* The military power behind the political infrastructure in the US is marching to take over all the major strategic oil reserves in the middle east: Iraq, Iran and Saudi Arabia.

* The same military power is aiming to curb democracy within the US and create a facist state. Patriot Act, Homeland Security, Departement of Information Awareness....it's all a nefarious plan.

The end goal is to create a country like "communist" China - which is not really communist at all but could better be described as a capitalist dictatorship run by the military and various corporations. That is the future of America. Get used to it.

Wonton has spoken.

[cash69]

on cnn today... they showed some dude in iraq talking.. that said in the next month there will be massive attacks against the usa for what they have done... all the usa did was kill all the little sadam husane worshipers.. all the big boys were far away in another country watching it on cnn laughing.. now they are gonna try to get usa back.. what usa did was really stupid

[theking]

The same GFY kooks are coming out of the wood work with the same predictable tired BS.

[wonton]

Originally posted by theking
The same GFY kooks are coming out of the wood work with the same predictable tired BS.

Right...Bush's BS is better.

They don't call is "Bush-shit" for nothing.

Face it theking, you were a member of an oppressive military force bent on facist world domination.

[theking]

Every American President since, and including, the 2nd World War has engaged the US military and I suspect every President in the future will do the same.

Face it Wonton...the US is the most powerful nation the world has ever known and Presidents/Congresses of the future will do what they have done in the past and that is, they will do what they perceive to be in the best interest of the US...this is what all countries would like to have the capability of doing but unforunately for most, they are way down the food chain.

[wonton]

Originally posted by theking
Every American President since, and including, the 2nd World War has engaged the US military and I suspect every President in the future will do the same.

Face it Wonton...the US is the most powerful nation the world has ever known and Presidents/Congresses of the future will do what they have done in the past and that is, they will do what they perceive to be in the best interest of the US...this is what all countries would like to have the capability of doing but unforunately for most, they are way down the food chain.

True. And I don't dispute that. All that I am pointing out is that "they" are about to turn that might against you and I. And no, they are not going to attack us with Abrams tanks or stealth fighters. But they are going to own and control us like never before. That is where this is all heading. When that final crunch comes to your personal freedom, I think you will be singing a different tune.

In the meantime, you are hereby dimissed from this thread, private.

[theking]

Originally posted by wonton


True. And I don't dispute that. All that I am pointing out is that "they" are about to turn that might against you and I. And no, they are not going to attack us with Abrams tanks or stealth fighters. But they are going to own and control us like never before. That is where this is all heading. When that final crunch comes to your personal freedom, I think you will be singing a different tune.

In the meantime, you are hereby dimissed from this thread, private.

Unfortunately I am a "private" now...citizen that is...I would prefer being a soldier. The only freedom that I see that is in jeapordy is that of the "bad guys" and I say that is a good thing. MY personal freedom will remain mine unto death because I am armed, and shall remain armed, and I am willing to fight and die, if necessary, in order to protect my personal freedom. Thus far my personal freedom and that of the "good guys" is not in jeapordy...until it is...I am not concerned. The sky is not falling...really it isn't.

[Centurion]

Originally posted by theking


MY personal freedom will remain mine unto death because I am armed, and shall remain armed, and I am willing to fight and die, if necessary, in order to protect my personal freedom.

Oh...are you afraid one of those big old mean nasty Iraqi's might attack your house? I'm SO glad you are armed, because you never know when someone that disagrees with you might force you to shoot them!

[Troels]

Originally posted by theking
Every American President since, and including, the 2nd World War has engaged the US military and I suspect every President in the future will do the same.

Face it Wonton...the US is the most powerful nation the world has ever known and Presidents/Congresses of the future will do what they have done in the past and that is, they will do what they perceive to be in the best interest of the US...this is what all countries would like to have the capability of doing but unforunately for most, they are way down the food chain.

Fox News is king.

Makes you wonder though. What happens the day US is no longer army #1 ?

No nation or alliance has ever kept their #1 position and it's probably not gonna happen this time either. I just hope my country is on the right side next time we have a change (if I'm alive - if not, who gives a shit). And that the winning side is a non-religious white country.

[Mike AI]

Face it Wonton...the US is the most powerful nation the world has ever known and Presidents/Congresses of the future will do what they have done in the past and that is, they will do what they perceive to be in the best interest of the US...this is what all countries would like to have the capability of doing but unforunately for most, they are way down the food chain.

This is a brilliant post. This is afterall what all Nations do... they look out for their own interest. Nothing more, nothing less... This includes France....

[Troels]

Mike AI, you would agree then, that there are no bad or good countries?

Every person, every country, acts with their own best selfinterest in mind. It's all a matter of strength and survival - not truth.

There are no good or bad countries. Just religion and tradition.

[Paul Markham]

Originally posted by theking


Unfortunately I am a "private" now...citizen that is...I would prefer being a soldier. The only freedom that I see that is in jeapordy is that of the "bad guys" and I say that is a good thing. MY personal freedom will remain mine unto death because I am armed, and shall remain armed, and I am willing to fight and die, if necessary, in order to protect my personal freedom. Thus far my personal freedom and that of the "good guys" is not in jeapordy...until it is...I am not concerned. The sky is not falling...really it isn't.

He thinks it's fine for his goverment to attack another country, kills it's people and destroy the infrastrucure. But no one must do it to him.

Idiotking, you think no differently than the next terrorist to attack the US, he is just doing what you will do.

Which leader attacked which country, which leader had his highly trained trained and vastly superior equipped soldiers kills innocent civilians. Which leader has WMDs, the means od delivering them and the will to use them?

Or do you like Americe being thought of as bullies?

[theking]

Originally posted by charly
He thinks it's fine for his goverment to attack another country, kills it's people and destroy the infrastrucure. But no one must do it to him.

Idiotking, you think no differently than the next terrorist to attack the US, he is just doing what you will do.

Which leader attacked which country, which leader had his highly trained trained and vastly superior equipped soldiers kills innocent civilians. Which leader has WMDs, the means od delivering them and the will to use them?

Or do you like Americe being thought of as bullies?

I personally do not care what any "CLUELESS" asshole thinks of America.

[CDSmith]

Originally posted by wonton
As Wonton has been saying for more than a year:

* The Bush admin had foreknowledge of 911 and did nothing to prevent it. In fact, they covertly encouraged it.

Saying it and proving it are two different things.

Originally posted by wonton
* The military power behind the political infrastructure in the US is marching to take over all the major strategic oil reserves in the middle east: Iraq, Iran and Saudi Arabia.

Maybe they're tired of having the world's economic well-being dictated by a region so rife with corruption and more than 3000 years of in-fighting, terrorism and religious-based hatred? I don't know, I'm just speculating, like you are.

Originally posted by wonton
* The same military power is aiming to curb democracy within the US and create a facist state. Patriot Act, Homeland Security, Departement of Information Awareness....it's all a nefarious plan.

Okay, now you're just babbling foolishly.

Originally posted by wonton
The end goal is to create a country like "communist" China - which is not really communist at all but could better be described as a capitalist dictatorship run by the military and various corporations. That is the future of America. Get used to it.

Wonton has spoken.

Wonton is an idiot.

[Paul Markham]

Originally posted by CDSmith
Maybe they're tired of having the world's economic well-being dictated by a region so rife with corruption and more than 3000 years of in-fighting, terrorism and religious-based hatred? I don't know, I'm just speculating, like you are.

Then why did they lie to every one?

[theking]

Originally posted by charly
Then why did they lie to every one?

Clueless...the Intelligence Select Committees in Congress will make the final determination about the Administration lying...or not lying, about WMD/materials. Unitl that time the Administration cannot be legitimately labeled as having told a lie about WMD/materials.

The fifteen members of the UN Security Counsel agreed that Iraq had not been in compliance since 1991...and had not complied with multiple resoultions...thus they passed Resoultion 1441.

The better question would be...why didn't Iraq comply with 1441?

http://usinfo.state.gov/topical/pol/terror/02110803.htm

"13. Recalls, in that context, that the Council has repeatedly warned Iraq that it will face serious consequences as a result of its continued violations of its obligations;"

After 12 years of non compliance...after 12 years of tens of millions of dollars (if not hundreds of millions of dollars) of expense containing Iraq...after 12 years of putting our military personell in jeapordy (our military forces were routinely fired upon) and after Iraq failed to comply with 1441...the USA decided, along with close to 40 other countries, to provide the "serious consequences" as unanimously approved by the 15 members of the Security Counsel. 1441 was the last Resoultion passed prior to the invasion of Iraq.

If you want to accuse someone of lying...direct your accusations at the "Mother of all liars"...Saddam.

If our Congress determines that the Administration lied...then there will be consequences for the Administration to pay.

[Centurion]

Originally posted by theking


Clueless...the Intelligence Select Committees in Congress will make the final determination about the Administration lying...or not lying, about WMD/materials. Unitl that time the Administration cannot be legitimately labeled as having told a lie about WMD/materials.

.

Ah!

The ULTIMATE aribtrator of what is right or wrong in foreign policy is the Intelligence Select Committee?

So tell me, what POLITICAL PARTY has the majority in that commitee?
And what party is the President a member of?

Dang..the fox is in the chicken house again!

[slackologist]

bush is a pussy, he should have nuked baghdad, bring on the armegeddon!!!

~~~~~~~ Vote Bush & Jesus 2004 ~~~~~~~

[theking]

Originally posted by Centurion


Ah!

The ULTIMATE aribtrator of what is right or wrong in foreign policy is the Intelligence Select Committee?

So tell me, what POLITICAL PARTY has the majority in that commitee?
And what party is the President a member of?

Dang..the fox is in the chicken house again!

You really are one dumb fuck...so fucking dumb that I do not like providing a response but I am on a coffee break at this time and I am in a resonably good mood.

The Intelligence Select Committees in the House and Senate, to the best of my knowledge do not have anything to do with foriegn policy. They oversee the various Intelligence Agencies.

It does not make any difference who the majority party is...the Democrats on the committees are not potted plants and can make their own decisions...and say what they choose to say about the intel that was provided to the administration. Both committees have already seen, prior to the invasion, most of the intel that was provided to the Administration...but they are now going over it again and probably in greater depth. If the Democrats, on the two different committees, decide that the Administration lied about the intel provided to them...they will of course crucify the Administration.

You are now dismissed...dumb fuck.

[Centurion]

Originally posted by theking


You really are one dumb fuck...so fucking dumb that I do not like providing a response but I am on a coffee break at this time and I am in a resonably good mood.

The Intelligence Select Committees in the House and Senate, to the best of my knowledge do not have anything to do with foriegn policy. They oversee the various Intelligence Agencies.

It does not make any difference who the majority party is...the Democrats on the committees are not potted plants and can make their own decisions...and say what they choose to say about the intel that was provided to the administration. Both committees have already seen, prior to the invasion, most of the intel that was provided to the Administration...but they are now going over it again and probably in greater depth. If the Democrats, on the two different committees, decide that the Administration lied about the intel provided to them...they will of course crucify the Administration.

You are now dismissed...dumb fuck.

You are both:

1)PREDICTABLE
2)BOOOORING!

As usual, your only way out of an argument when you get cornered is to call someone some sort of name/profanity.

"You really are one dumb fuck...so fucking dumb that I do not like providing a response" shows up in it's mean, oh my gosh, did he fix him by saying that position.


Hey, miserable excuse for a human being that probably had his dick shot off in the war (you did say you were shot right?) and lives at his home with momma (you said you did), and probably hasn't been laid for years (IF AT ALL!), and who somehow tries to pass himself off as an ADULT WEBMASTER (and oxymoron truly for the "king"), you DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION AGAIN!!

No matter what question is asked, insult/curse/flame the person for asking it by always saying their "dumb" in some manner and then go off on a ramble, and then turn the subject to something else.

That is your M.O.

You do not refute THEN that the REPORT that these committees will issue WILL reflect the view of the MAJORITY of the committee which HAPPENS to be REPUBLICAN.

Of course Democrats can say something. But first they have to learn how to speak again having gone MUTE over the course of the last two years.

But asking your cronies to rubber stamp what you did is NOTHING close to being a true investigation of the facts.


You fucking loser moron with bad breath! You know nothing outside of your own bedroom and watch you see on tv!

Oh sorry..probably stole your opening line for your retort!

[theking]

Originally posted by Centurion


You are both:

1)PREDICTABLE
2)BOOOORING!

As usual, your only way out of an argument when you get cornered is to call someone some sort of name/profanity.

"You really are one dumb fuck...so fucking dumb that I do not like providing a response" shows up in it's mean, oh my gosh, did he fix him by saying that position.


Hey, miserable excuse for a human being that probably had his dick shot off in the war (you did say you were shot right?) and lives at his home with momma (you said you did), and probably hasn't been laid for years (IF AT ALL!), and who somehow tries to pass himself off as an ADULT WEBMASTER (and oxymoron truly for the "king"), you DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION AGAIN!!

No matter what question is asked, insult/curse/flame the person for asking it by always saying their "dumb" in some manner and then go off on a ramble, and then turn the subject to something else.

That is your M.O.

You do not refute THEN that the REPORT that these committees will issue WILL reflect the view of the MAJORITY of the committee which HAPPENS to be REPUBLICAN.

Of course Democrats can say something. But first they have to learn how to speak again having gone MUTE over the course of the last two years.

But asking your cronies to rubber stamp what you did is NOTHING close to being a true investigation of the facts.


You fucking loser moron with bad breath! You know nothing outside of your own bedroom and watch you see on tv!

Oh sorry..probably stole your opening line for your retort!

Babbling again...huh kid? I told you that your are dismissed...run along now and play a video game...it may at least improve your motor skills...not much can be done for your mental skills.