Whats the average rebill % ?? - GoFuckYourself.com

DarkJedi · 06-19-2003, 05:53 AM

Only 10% of signups rebill at this one site.
I think its low, but the program owner tells me it actually is OK.

JayJay · 06-19-2003, 05:55 AM

LOL work it out if 10% was OK how could Sponsors afford to pay you $20 to $60 a signup?

10% is bad real bad

DarkJedi · 06-19-2003, 06:00 AM

FlyingIguana · 06-19-2003, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi
Only 10% of signups rebill at this one site.
I think its low, but the program owner tells me it actually is OK.

10%? i would drop the program in a second.

KRL · 06-19-2003, 08:17 AM

The best I've seen is about 80%.

Dveron · 06-19-2003, 08:17 AM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana

10%? i would drop the program in a second.

I'm with ya there. The members area must be really sucky or you're getting fucked.

chowda · 06-19-2003, 08:17 AM

yaeh, when i ask this question i get NEWBIE..

retention rate for my site is 20% meaning 1 out of 5 will rebill.. i see that dropping coz my site is shit.

amph · 06-19-2003, 08:23 AM

50-70% for me

geps · 06-19-2003, 08:47 AM

50% and up should be good... below /quit

Adulter · 06-19-2003, 09:04 AM

I think it depends on the niche your paysite in.

30% for mainstream (from trial to monthly) is ok.
50% after in monthly rebills.

Niche sites should have better rebilling ratio.

Just my .02

dchottie · 06-19-2003, 09:31 AM

average for my program is 65%. Some slightly higher some slightly lower.

Troels · 06-19-2003, 11:01 AM

Anyone claiming 50% + retention on their adult site AND offer short trials are full of shit.

Wizzo · 06-19-2003, 11:03 AM

50% is good, 30 to 40% is about average....

strainer · 06-19-2003, 11:12 AM

Everyone is a total fucking liar about retention percent, and quotes absurd numbers.

Sophisticated surfers today don't like a monthly bill, they go to a site, download 30 gig, then pull the plug and move on. They'd have to be a moron not to. Why pay $240 a year for a site when I can visit once every 4 or 5 months and download the whole thing for $24.99?

I retain at 101% though on my sites.

easyfun · 06-19-2003, 11:28 AM

I get around 65 - 70% retention -
But - I don't give any trials at all -

Since I stopped doing trials I have noticed two things:

1) Overall, my sales have increased a whole load - I get 20% (Numbers, not cash volume) more sign ups for recurring memberships.

and 2) Whereas previously I had no non recurring option, now I have and I get a load of sales through that door -

ZoiNk · 06-19-2003, 11:59 AM

The trial to full membership is quite low for me, normially 20-30% on sponsors I look at. I have one sponsor that is around 10%, but of the 10% that rebill, they stay 6-8 months, so I still push them. Look in the members areas, and see if it is anything special, or if it is some broken plugins and overcompressed pics.
ZoiNk

chaffer · 06-19-2003, 12:24 PM

I think 10% is a little low

amph · 06-19-2003, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by strainer
Everyone is a total fucking liar about retention percent, and quotes absurd numbers.

I r liar, you r liar, we r liar

clubsexy · 06-19-2003, 02:24 PM

I have promoted a few sponsors the didn't ever seem to rebill ever.

I had 1 that I sent about 8,000 uniques to, got 1 trial for 1.95 and when it rebilled, I got a credit for 12.50 and a credit for 1.95

Net for my traffic zero... goose egg... waste of time.

LOL

nocostporn · 06-19-2003, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by strainer
Everyone is a total fucking liar about retention percent, and quotes absurd numbers.

Sophisticated surfers today don't like a monthly bill, they go to a site, download 30 gig, then pull the plug and move on. They'd have to be a moron not to. Why pay $240 a year for a site when I can visit once every 4 or 5 months and download the whole thing for $24.99?

I retain at 101% though on my sites.

uh 75%(give or take a few) of the US is still on dialup,not every surfer can just download a members area just like that

stocktrader23 · 06-19-2003, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nocostporn

uh 75%(give or take a few) of the US is still on dialup,not every surfer can just download a members area just like that

He's an idiot anyway. Why answer?

nocostporn · 06-19-2003, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23

He's an idiot anyway. Why answer?

dunno dude,needed some filler posts today

ztik · 06-19-2003, 02:57 PM

Mines right around 40%

JDog · 06-19-2003, 03:25 PM

i gotta say average would be around 65-75%. And good would be about 80-85%. But 10% is fucking BAD.

jDoG

Niki · 06-19-2003, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JDog
i gotta say average would be around 65-75%. And good would be about 80-85%. But 10% is fucking BAD.

jDoG

pure bullshit! ... biz average is 40% ....

strainer · 06-19-2003, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nocostporn

uh 75%(give or take a few) of the US is still on dialup,not every surfer can just download a members area just like that

The ratio is unimportant, what matters is - that surfers with cable modems disproportionately sign up for pay sites, especially movie sites.

My average member downloads a gig or two a month, so its not coming from a dialup.

strainer · 06-19-2003, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23

He's an idiot anyway. Why answer?

Clueless fuckwit. How many monkeys hammered on your typewriter to come up with that masterpiece?

Pipecrew · 06-19-2003, 03:36 PM

Anyone saying 60%+ is full of shit, surfers these days are fucking trained, they get burned at soo many sites, they love Trial Memberships, they signup and before they even download a single thing, they are cancelling.... Doesnt help that processors send emails with the Cancel Links in them first thing.

besterman · 06-19-2003, 03:43 PM

about 33% on average, deluxepass has awesome retention of about 50%

Pipecrew · 06-19-2003, 03:47 PM

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Originally posted by scorpion3600
about 33% on average, deluxepass has awesome retention of about 50%

Dp also has about 2000 + gigs of good movies

necoeds · 06-19-2003, 04:00 PM

Mine is 74.6% of su's rebill at least once

amph · 06-19-2003, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pipecrew
Anyone saying 60%+ is full of shit

envy?

i know someone who has over 90% rebill rate and a big member base. Its all about how you treat the members, the content, and how often u update.

you are full of shit

IntenseCash · 06-19-2003, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by amph
50-70% for me

Same here

kevinl · 06-20-2003, 01:18 AM

I remember when bangbus came out. I did a trial join and downloaded all the movies on my dsl connection. then about every six months i sign up for a trial and download all the new ones. How many other people do you think do this. I seriously doubt most sites get 50% trial to full membership.

BJ · 06-20-2003, 01:19 AM

I get $1500 per member.

believe it!

Big Monkie · 06-20-2003, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kevinl
about every six months i sign up for a trial and download all the new ones. How many other people do you think do this.

Of course a percentage do that but how many? Why do the better avs premium systems consistently rebill at 80%?

Jizzman · 06-20-2003, 08:09 PM

well here's a real stat, no bs, I sent just over 300 sales in one month to a niche site with exclusive quality content and it rebilled at 34%, a similar site that I sent about 90 sales to rebilled at 44%, anyone claiming much higher than that Id like to signup and promote em

FlyingIguana · 06-20-2003, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jizzman
well here's a real stat, no bs, I sent just over 300 sales in one month to a niche site with exclusive quality content and it rebilled at 34%, a similar site that I sent about 90 sales to rebilled at 44%, anyone claiming much higher than that Id like to signup and promote em

wouldn't anyone? anything over 40% is good. 50% is great and a real keeper.

Troels · 06-20-2003, 08:15 PM

Boring.

Anyone over 40% would have a megaprogram.

In all - they are full of shit.
Keep crying at the black-jew wall.

FlyingIguana · 06-20-2003, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Troels
Boring.

Anyone over 40% would have a megaprogram.

In all - they are full of shit.
Keep crying at the black-jew wall.

funny

Troels · 06-20-2003, 08:24 PM

No, it's not funny.
Move on - who's a victim nowadays....

I hope all agressive religions will be banned from my country.
That includes Mulsims and Jews.... oh no, I'm anti-semitic!!!

Stop claiming everything is yours and there would be no anti-semetic!!!!!!!
Stop being agressive... religion is bad - you make it worse.

slapass · 06-20-2003, 08:26 PM

I know of a major program that does 10% or less. I switched to PPS option and I do great but I still see their stats and I have no clue how they make it.
I think the only sites that hit mega rebills are the single girl sites where the guy gets hooked.

cash69 · 06-20-2003, 08:29 PM

all depends.. free trial sign ups convert 30 - 40%.. becuase alot will sign up becuase it's free and take the free 2 days and then cancel... paid trials 1.99$ or 4.95$ will convert alot higher becuase they don't mind paying for a good site.. if you have only full month memberships.. 29.95 - 39.95 you should be 80%..

cash69 · 06-20-2003, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by amph

envy?
i know someone who has over 90% rebill rate and a big member base. Its all about how you treat the members, the content, and how often u update. you are full of shit

that's weird.. considering at least 20% are declined rebills.. not everyone is made out of money.. most have about 200$ max credit on their card.. 90% is impossible in my mind..

Pipecrew · 06-20-2003, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by amph

envy?
i know someone who has over 90% rebill rate and a big member base. Its all about how you treat the members, the content, and how often u update. you are full of shit

Shutup you fucking tool, Do you expect anyone to take you seriously? Two days ago you were on GFY begging for traffic for people to test your site, MEANWHILE, you didnt realize the buttons on your JOIN PAGE WERE NOT LINKED.....

Like are you honestly that Mentally retarded? You want to convince us you know anything about retention? your site is on fucking adultbouncer HAHAHAHA, break off on your own and then maybee people will listen.

JDog · 06-20-2003, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Troels
Anyone claiming 50% + retention on their adult site AND offer short trials are full of shit.

I can't say that is fully true, I've had a couple keep rebills at 70% and some keep rebills for 11 months! Can't say that is fully true!

jDoG

Troels · 06-20-2003, 09:15 PM

Rebills at 70%?
Keeping them on for 11 months?

You - are full of shit.

If that was true - why the fuck aren't they rocking the adult world?

I just saw your signature - you are full of shit.
You are promoting someone else.

If you knew the wholy grail you would be promoting it.

Keep on supporting Sunderland...

cash69 · 06-20-2003, 09:23 PM

with retention at 70% from a free trial.. and rebilling for 11 months... when are they putting up a 250$ per sign up site?

Troels · 06-20-2003, 09:29 PM

When Africa runs for true democracy award.

who the fuck are we kidding.

sacX · 06-20-2003, 09:31 PM

conversion % is meaningless, it seems.

What is more interesting is, what is the best average amount of cash you have got per paid signup from programs you use?

06-19-2003, 05:53 AM	#1
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	Whats the average rebill % ?? Only 10% of signups rebill at this one site. I think its low, but the program owner tells me it actually is OK.

06-19-2003, 06:00 AM	#3
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	:/

06-19-2003, 08:17 AM	#5
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	The best I've seen is about 80%. __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

06-19-2003, 08:17 AM	#7
chowda Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gooch city Posts: 9,527	yaeh, when i ask this question i get NEWBIE.. retention rate for my site is 20% meaning 1 out of 5 will rebill.. i see that dropping coz my site is shit. __________________ Someone finds you... 2007 PS: Nationalnet is the best host I've ever had. And i tried alot of them.

06-19-2003, 08:23 AM	#8
amph Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: LaLaLand Posts: 1,245	50-70% for me __________________ MEATCASH PWNZ THE INTERWEB ____________ ICQ:30768214 ~~~~~~~~~

06-19-2003, 05:55 AM	#2
JayJay Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 3,739	LOL work it out if 10% was OK how could Sponsors afford to pay you $20 to $60 a signup? 10% is bad real bad

06-19-2003, 08:47 AM	#9
geps Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Brazil Posts: 196	50% and up should be good... below /quit

06-19-2003, 09:04 AM	#10
Adulter Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: EU Posts: 1,252	I think it depends on the niche your paysite in. 30% for mainstream (from trial to monthly) is ok. 50% after in monthly rebills. Niche sites should have better rebilling ratio. Just my .02

06-19-2003, 09:31 AM	#11
dchottie Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 894	average for my program is 65%. Some slightly higher some slightly lower. __________________

06-19-2003, 11:01 AM	#12
Troels Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Between the clouds Posts: 1,035	Anyone claiming 50% + retention on their adult site AND offer short trials are full of shit.

06-19-2003, 11:03 AM	#13
Wizzo 2011 GFY Hall of Fame! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Back in Texas! Posts: 15,224	50% is good, 30 to 40% is about average.... __________________ Looking for Opportunity!

06-19-2003, 11:12 AM	#14
strainer Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 418	Everyone is a total fucking liar about retention percent, and quotes absurd numbers. Sophisticated surfers today don't like a monthly bill, they go to a site, download 30 gig, then pull the plug and move on. They'd have to be a moron not to. Why pay $240 a year for a site when I can visit once every 4 or 5 months and download the whole thing for $24.99? I retain at 101% though on my sites.

06-19-2003, 11:28 AM	#15
easyfun Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 731	I get around 65 - 70% retention - But - I don't give any trials at all - Since I stopped doing trials I have noticed two things: 1) Overall, my sales have increased a whole load - I get 20% (Numbers, not cash volume) more sign ups for recurring memberships. and 2) Whereas previously I had no non recurring option, now I have and I get a load of sales through that door - __________________ <p><embed width="120" height="60" src="http://www.harlotcash.com/harlot_3.swf"><br> </p>

06-19-2003, 11:59 AM	#16
ZoiNk Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 2,370	The trial to full membership is quite low for me, normially 20-30% on sponsors I look at. I have one sponsor that is around 10%, but of the 10% that rebill, they stay 6-8 months, so I still push them. Look in the members areas, and see if it is anything special, or if it is some broken plugins and overcompressed pics. ZoiNk __________________ "People can have the Model T in any color - so long as it's black." - Henry Ford

06-19-2003, 12:24 PM	#17
chaffer Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 389	I think 10% is a little low __________________ icq 92207758 AIM chaffspice

06-19-2003, 02:24 PM	#19
clubsexy Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Anaheim, CA Posts: 1,630	I have promoted a few sponsors the didn't ever seem to rebill ever. I had 1 that I sent about 8,000 uniques to, got 1 trial for 1.95 and when it rebilled, I got a credit for 12.50 and a credit for 1.95 Net for my traffic zero... goose egg... waste of time. LOL

06-19-2003, 02:57 PM	#23
ztik Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Nomad Posts: 5,196	Mines right around 40%

06-19-2003, 03:25 PM	#24
JDog Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Canby, OR Posts: 7,453	i gotta say average would be around 65-75%. And good would be about 80-85%. But 10% is fucking BAD. jDoG __________________ NSCash now powering ReelProfits.com ALSO FEATURING: NSCash.com :: SoloDollars.com :: ReelProfits.com :: BiminiBucks.com :: VOD PROGRAMS COMING SOON: Greedy Bucks :: Vengeance Cash NOW OFFERING OVER 60 SITES CONTACT :: JAMES SMITH :: CHIEF TECHNOLOGY OFFICER :: ICQ (711385133)

06-19-2003, 03:36 PM	#28
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	Anyone saying 60%+ is full of shit, surfers these days are fucking trained, they get burned at soo many sites, they love Trial Memberships, they signup and before they even download a single thing, they are cancelling.... Doesnt help that processors send emails with the Cancel Links in them first thing.

06-19-2003, 03:43 PM	#29
besterman Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 623	about 33% on average, deluxepass has awesome retention of about 50%

06-19-2003, 04:00 PM	#31
necoeds Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 2,453	Mine is 74.6% of su's rebill at least once __________________ Message me to promote nebraskacoeds + network sites...

06-20-2003, 01:18 AM	#34
kevinl Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: US Posts: 261	I remember when bangbus came out. I did a trial join and downloaded all the movies on my dsl connection. then about every six months i sign up for a trial and download all the new ones. How many other people do you think do this. I seriously doubt most sites get 50% trial to full membership. __________________ kevinl

06-20-2003, 01:19 AM	#35
BJ Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: asia Posts: 5,590	I get $1500 per member. believe it!

06-20-2003, 08:09 PM	#37
Jizzman Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 379	well here's a real stat, no bs, I sent just over 300 sales in one month to a niche site with exclusive quality content and it rebilled at 34%, a similar site that I sent about 90 sales to rebilled at 44%, anyone claiming much higher than that Id like to signup and promote em

06-20-2003, 08:15 PM	#39
Troels Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Between the clouds Posts: 1,035	Boring. Anyone over 40% would have a megaprogram. In all - they are full of shit. Keep crying at the black-jew wall.

06-20-2003, 08:24 PM	#41
Troels Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Between the clouds Posts: 1,035	No, it's not funny. Move on - who's a victim nowadays.... I hope all agressive religions will be banned from my country. That includes Mulsims and Jews.... oh no, I'm anti-semitic!!! Stop claiming everything is yours and there would be no anti-semetic!!!!!!! Stop being agressive... religion is bad - you make it worse.

06-20-2003, 08:26 PM	#42
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	I know of a major program that does 10% or less. I switched to PPS option and I do great but I still see their stats and I have no clue how they make it. I think the only sites that hit mega rebills are the single girl sites where the guy gets hooked.

06-20-2003, 08:29 PM	#43
cash69 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: chandler, az Posts: 1,052	all depends.. free trial sign ups convert 30 - 40%.. becuase alot will sign up becuase it's free and take the free 2 days and then cancel... paid trials 1.99$ or 4.95$ will convert alot higher becuase they don't mind paying for a good site.. if you have only full month memberships.. 29.95 - 39.95 you should be 80%..

06-20-2003, 09:15 PM	#47
Troels Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Between the clouds Posts: 1,035	Rebills at 70%? Keeping them on for 11 months? You - are full of shit. If that was true - why the fuck aren't they rocking the adult world? I just saw your signature - you are full of shit. You are promoting someone else. If you knew the wholy grail you would be promoting it. Keep on supporting Sunderland...

06-20-2003, 09:23 PM	#48
cash69 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: chandler, az Posts: 1,052	with retention at 70% from a free trial.. and rebilling for 11 months... when are they putting up a 250$ per sign up site?

06-20-2003, 09:29 PM	#49
Troels Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Between the clouds Posts: 1,035	When Africa runs for true democracy award. who the fuck are we kidding.

06-20-2003, 09:31 PM	#50
sacX Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,998	conversion % is meaningless, it seems. What is more interesting is, what is the best average amount of cash you have got per paid signup from programs you use?