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XPays 09-17-2004 04:02 AM
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Originally posted by Matt 26z
I'm amazed at how many people compaire internet advertising to snail mail advertising.

The government does not provide our e-mail addy's for us and control the networks. The internet is private. If Microsoft doesn't want you sending email ad's to their customers, then stop or be sued. Simple as that.
make sure you are a valid double-opt and do everything by the book or do not bother- you are right-ish

lawsuits are very expensive

XPays 09-17-2004 04:06 AM
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Originally posted by Why
or rather... to bad xpays was stupid enough to send forged emails. especially forged to appear to be coming from domains owned by the richest corporation in the WORLD
False!

Darkystar 09-17-2004 04:06 AM
XPays are you fucking crazy? look at the date of this thread

XPays 09-17-2004 04:08 AM
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Originally posted by Serge_Oprano
I don't know Evan, but Howard nailed it.

People LIVE for other people's misery.

Mostly the ones who enjoy other people misfortunes are the ones who can't even DREAM of achieving what other people have achieved....and those who ride the "high horse",
I personally love every time you fall of it and break your fuckin' necks...

Yes, archibishop of Phoenix, I talk about you!
;-))))
We won't hold any grudges.

Phoenix 09-17-2004 04:09 AM
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Originally posted by Darkystar
XPays are you fucking crazy? look at the date of this thread

yeah this sucker is ancient...i have seen alot of old threads pop up

XPays 09-17-2004 04:09 AM
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Originally posted by Kimmykim
Thank you Serge! Apparently neither Howard nor I managed to get our points across and if people here cant figure it out from your post then English is not even a 5th language to them.

The point is NOT what Ev and Michael did or did not do. That is for a judge or a jury to decide.

The point is that all these fuckers sit around and cry about shit and how it's always someone starting it, and all the while who knows what they are doing.
The case never made it to a jury.

Reak 09-17-2004 04:10 AM
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Originally posted by xxweekxx
XPAYS is getting sued by microsoft for spam. I just did a search on the board and they are indeed spammers..

Here is a list of people/companies microsoft is suing. Xpays is down there. Incase you dont see it, let me cut their part from microsoft website.

Defendant: XPAYS Inc., San Francisco. Case number: 03-2-27988-9 SEA

Alleged spam activity:

Sent unsolicited e-mail containing explicit images
Used misleading subject lines and spoofed third-party domains, including hotmail.com, msn.com and other domains as the originating e-mail address


Sucks for them i guess
I'm glad.

XPays 09-17-2004 04:11 AM
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Originally posted by Darkystar
XPays are you fucking crazy? look at the date of this thread
Cambria and firm had me stay silent back then- people published some opinions and some people published false accusations. Now we can publish our responses. 16 months in internet time, is like a decade- I hear you.

XPays 09-17-2004 04:14 AM
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Originally posted by JohnIP
Maybe Evan should send them a C and D;)
And last I heard insiteadult fucked everyone. Karma...

XPays 09-17-2004 04:15 AM
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Originally posted by JosephS
Evan and Michael have always shown they have integrity and class in all of their dealings with me over the years. They are innovative and exceptional businessmen. I have complete faith in their being proven innocent in this matter. Some people around here have nothing better to do than jumping to conclusions and tearing people down. If you are looking to do business with an ethical and honest program that will make you money and pay you year after year theres none I would recommend more than Xpays!

Joe Segal
When the shock of the suit hit me, a post like this was very refreshing and thanks as always Joe.

Phoenix 09-17-2004 04:15 AM
btw..never met Evan as of yet...but Michael is top notch..one of the nicer guys you will meet

Phoenix 09-17-2004 04:16 AM
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Originally posted by assistant27
no its one of python companies I would say.
not even close totally separate

XPays 09-17-2004 04:16 AM
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Originally posted by J$tyle$
I agree wholeheartedly, Joseph!

What some webmasters fail to realize (or care to), is that Xpays does not hide who they are ... they're not hiding behind offshore entities like BIG SPAMMERS do. If you do a whois on any of their domains they point back to XPAYS in San Francisco. Why? Because there are no reasons for them to hide.

Any company that does email marketing or runs an affiliate program could easily be a target for a lawsuit.

READ: Any program can have affiliates that SPAM, spoof, or anything else underhanded, and the SPONSOR will catch the blame.

In this case, it's a lawsuit spearheaded by Microsoft that looks more like a PR campaign to say:

"Look, we're cleaning up OUR email services and going after NASTY SPAMMERS ... come sign up for a Hotmail account or an MSN account ... you're safe with Microsoft"

Whether or not the SPONSOR can prove their innocence is of no consequence. If they're targeted, at the very least - they're going to have to fight a costly legal battle.

My belief is that Xpays will come out of this and be exonerated!

Just my :2 cents:

The benefit of the doubt :thumbsup

uchase/webpry 09-17-2004 04:17 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by XPays
Cambria and firm had me stay silent back then- people published some opinions and some people published false accusations. Now we can publish our responses. 16 months in internet time, is like a decade- I hear you.
... don't hold back.

XPays 09-17-2004 04:19 AM
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Originally posted by Phoenix
btw..never met Evan as of yet...but Michael is top notch..one of the nicer guys you will meet
he's the smart one :winkwink:

Tipsy 09-17-2004 04:20 AM
Glad to see you made it out the other side in one piece. Restores just a little bit of faith in the system. :thumbsup

XPays 09-17-2004 04:21 AM
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Originally posted by uchase/webpry
... don't hold back.
i have simmered down plenty and i want to be nice to everyone if possible

any luck with shimmer finding the spoofers?:helpme

XPays 09-17-2004 04:22 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by Tipsy
Glad to see you made it out the other side in one piece. Restores just a little bit of faith in the system. :thumbsup
thank you!

uchase/webpry 09-17-2004 04:23 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by XPays
i have simmered down plenty and i want to be nice to everyone if possible

any luck with shimmer finding the spoofers?:helpme
... no man, she has given up, but told me she thinks your spoofer problem is more "inhouse".

GonZo 09-17-2004 04:24 AM
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Originally posted by XPays
And last I heard insiteadult fucked everyone. Karma...
Peaches says if you were his friend you got paid....

woj 09-17-2004 04:24 AM
100 lawsuits...

XPays 09-17-2004 04:26 AM
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Originally posted by uchase/webpry
... no man, she has given up, but told me she thinks your spoofer problem is more "inhouse".
today we got bounces one by one to each of our past and present employees emails- rather than the usual dictionary style. There is no way "inhouse" applies to our current staff. Spamhaus has some info relative here that points elsewhere.. please forward any info..

email details please- evan @ xpays.com

jimmyf 09-17-2004 04:34 AM
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Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Spoofing return addresses while spamming is fucked.

Anyone who has owned a domain that has been spoofed by a spammer can tell you how many problems it can cause.
yep it sure the hell can, has happened 2 me 2 or 3 times.

NickB. 09-17-2004 04:35 AM
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Originally posted by Kimmykim
I believe sad would be a better word than amazing.

I've always found it funny how many people talked a good game about business practices but behind closed doors were doing some of the things they screamed the loudest about.
You are so right! :thumbsup

XPays 09-17-2004 04:35 AM
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Originally posted by woj
100 lawsuits...
:winkwink: ms has filed many more than 100

we made all of our affiliate payouts on time throughout the entire process and have since our launch.

how many companies are here 16 months later with the same brand name and domain?

jimmyf 09-17-2004 04:37 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by Kimmykim
I believe sad would be a better word than amazing.

I've always found it funny how many people talked a good game about business practices but behind closed doors were doing some of the things they screamed the loudest about.
you hit the nail right the head

XPays 09-17-2004 04:38 AM
Now that more of our resources are available-

We are looking to add several new sites and niches, so email us and introduce your company. We have over 12,000 host partners.

cams, vod, hot sites with a longterm outlook, revshare, more amatuer sites, mobile and hand held... etc.. spam me

jimmyf 09-17-2004 04:40 AM
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Originally posted by Tipsy
One of the single most stupid remarks I've seen in a very long while.
sure was :Graucho

HairToStay 09-17-2004 04:46 AM
Defendant: Global Media Inc., Ft. Lauderdale, Fla. Case number: 03-2-27979-0 SEA

Alleged spam activity:

Sent unsolicited e-mail that opened to a compilation of explicit adult photos and links to free and paid online adult Web sites
Sent unsolicited e-mail from the freepass.com domain


Hm, seems to be Hardcoremoney.com

jimmyf 09-17-2004 04:47 AM
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Originally posted by Darkystar
XPays are you fucking crazy? look at the date of this thread
:1orglaugh

XPays 09-17-2004 04:49 AM
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Originally posted by jimmyf
:1orglaugh
it took this long to mutually resolve this and not turn over our affiliate database

jimmyf 09-17-2004 04:54 AM
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Originally posted by XPays
it took this long to mutually resolve this and not turn over our affiliate database
:thumbsup kewl

XPays 05-01-2005 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by fanatic
To Clarify! This is not www.XtremePay.com We have NO affiliation with the above mentioned site.
No shit and I am so happy that my patience in dealing with your probably trademark infringing and definitely controlled substance selling company has delivered a positive outcome of http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=459184

XPays 05-01-2005 05:30 PM
XPays always pays!

XPays 05-01-2005 05:33 PM
So do you think we should exercise our contracted rights of publicity using m$'s name worldwide? or do you think it is not worth it to raise the dead?

Juicy D. Links 05-01-2005 05:37 PM
Evan did you know that 9 out of 10 women find me to be "hot" "Sexy" and "Good Looking" ?

XPays 05-01-2005 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links
Evan did you know that 9 out of 10 women find me to be "hot" "Sexy" and "Good Looking" ?
confidence does that for those of us who are lucky to possess just such a trait.

send me your addy and we will send you some xthreadz right away to get that ratio up to 10 out of 10 bro :winkwink:

lmk 6 designs you like from http://XThreadz.com

XPays 05-01-2005 05:55 PM
Our House Is Clean

XPays 05-01-2005 06:03 PM
Almost as clean as Juicy's freshly waxed eyebrows and my favorite book:
http://www.gl4l.com/funnyshit/albums...ormal_book.jpg

DaLord 05-01-2005 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by XPays
We always used a valid and properly registered unsubscribe link that was honored in real-time.
That's odd... I keep trying to get off a list with Paris Hilton spam yet I keep getting them.


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