Problems With Ccbill - GoFuckYourself.com

moremalepower · 06-17-2003, 07:14 AM

It seems like ccbill is not that honest for referring webmasters!
a- it drops a cookie in the computer to track signups , however if I drop a cookie and then another referring webmaster drops a cookie the second referring webmaster gets the credit. THAT SUCKS!
If I have a gallery listed and then another webmaster has a hosted gallery on the same siteand the surfer signs up after his session on the tgp the last gallery webmaster gets the credit, IT SHOULD BE THE FIRST, first come first serve!
WHAT STOPS A WEBMASTER FROM PUTTING HIS OWN CCBILL REFERRING URL SOMEWHERE ON THE SITE TO DROP THAT SECOND COOKIE TO STEAL CUSTOMERS FROM TRAFFIC SENT FROM PROMOTERS?????????
Also alot of people come back to sign up later, how come when I call ccbill they cant tell me for how long that webmaster has cookies set to stay in teh host computer for me to get credit for????
IT SEEMS UNFAIR!

Jakke PNG · 06-17-2003, 07:15 AM

Okay.

funkmaster · 06-17-2003, 07:16 AM

ccbill -> good

XYCash · 06-17-2003, 07:18 AM

That's not an honesty issue. If a person signs up from a referring URL that isn't yours then of course that person should get the credit.

It means his gallery sold them on the site, not yours.

moremalepower · 06-17-2003, 07:20 AM

iTS NOT THE GALLERY ITS the timing HE DIDNT FINISH jerking off yet

Brad Mitchell · 06-17-2003, 07:22 AM

CCBill = Great

Don't be a fucknut!

Brad

XYCash · 06-17-2003, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by moremalepower
iTS NOT THE GALLERY ITS the timing HE DIDNT FINISH jerking off yet

lol..well I guess that would work both ways then

moremalepower · 06-17-2003, 07:28 AM

I thought you had to be at leats 17 to be in this forum, ....
but yeh i cant be a fucknut cause im concentrating on being a spermball, pssssst

Tipsy · 06-17-2003, 07:29 AM

What a nob.

Mind you, personally I wouldn't use any site relying just on cookies these days. I use ccbill for my billing but for the very few affiliates I use I've setup simple tracking dynamically and by cookie. It's the only way to make sure someone gets credited for all signups. Guess what though? The sale still goes to the site that sends them

rowan · 06-17-2003, 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by moremalepower
It seems like ccbill is not that honest for referring webmasters!
a- it drops a cookie in the computer to track signups , however if I drop a cookie and then another referring webmaster drops a cookie the second referring webmaster gets the credit. THAT SUCKS!
If I have a gallery listed and then another webmaster has a hosted gallery on the same siteand the surfer signs up after his session on the tgp the last gallery webmaster gets the credit, IT SHOULD BE THE FIRST, first come first serve!

If it was first come, first served then everyone would be img srcing the ccbill entry URLs to get their cookies set on the surfer's computer first. Think about what that would do.

vapewiz · 06-17-2003, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by moremalepower
I thought you had to be at leats 17 to be in this forum, ....
but yeh i cant be a fucknut cause im concentrating on being a spermball, pssssst

You have to be 18+ to post here.

moremalepower · 06-17-2003, 07:31 AM

Thats great?
they should all do that, whats your site???????

moremalepower · 06-17-2003, 07:37 AM

I dont think an img source can drop that cookie for signups cause then anyone can image source any program that someones referring, to get credit for traffic that the webmaster is paying for himself ,
it would be ridiculous people would be making millions

moremalepower · 06-17-2003, 07:47 AM

I dont fully understand img source where do you check to see if its being done?

NETBilling-Andy · 06-17-2003, 08:14 AM

Let me know if you want to go over with us how our affiliate program tracking works or if you have concerns about it. You can hit me up on email or ICQ - [email protected] or 17704874 on ICQ. Thanks

Andy K
CCBill Sales
www.ccbill.com
www.cavecreek.net
www.drmnetworks.com

corvette · 06-17-2003, 08:23 AM

andy beat me to to it...

Kimmykim · 06-17-2003, 08:25 AM

get a new copy of babelfish.

Tipsy · 06-17-2003, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by corvett
andy beat me to to it...

It's old age. The reflexes get slower ;)

Raider Mort · 06-17-2003, 08:39 AM

HAHAHA

This moremalepower joker is also known as ESCORTBIZ here on GFY.

http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/sh...threadid=31866

hotlocalescorts.com lol

Now you come in here under an alias and talk shit about CCBill ??

If the internet is real, why can't you keep it real?? lol

EscortBiz · 06-17-2003, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Raider Mort
HAHAHA

This moremalepower joker is also known as ESCORTBIZ here on GFY.

http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/sh...threadid=31866

hotlocalescorts.com lol

Now you come in here under an alias and talk shit about CCBill ??

If the internet is real, why can't you keep it real?? lol

Hes one of my affiliates and im sure anyone from CCBill can confirm its not me, he spammed my program when I started.

Raider Mort · 06-17-2003, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz

Hes one of my affiliates and im sure anyone from CCBill can confirm its not me, he spammed my program when I started.

Domain Name: HOTLOCALESCORTS.COM
Registrar: G.K. GROUP, L.L.C.
Whois Server: whois.gkg.net
Referral URL: http://www.gkg.net
Name Server: DNS1.INYC.COM
Name Server: DNS2.INYC.COM
Updated Date: 10-apr-2002
IP: 63.211.38.26
Location = Marine Park, NY 11229
lat/lon = 40.36n, 73.57w
source = NET whois.arin.net
type = guess
geo-key = 11229 -> .\data\geo.vdb

Domain Name: MOREMALEPOWER.COM
Registrar: G.K. GROUP, L.L.C.
Whois Server: whois.gkg.net
Referral URL: http://www.gkg.net
Name Server: DNS1.INYC.COM
Name Server: DNS2.INYC.COM
Updated Date: 28-oct-2001
IP: 63.211.38.185
Location = Marine Park, NY 11229
lat/lon = 40.36n, 73.57w
source = NET whois.arin.net
type = guess
geo-key = 11229 -> .\data\geo.vdb

Same host, same registrar.... conicidence? You tell me.

EscortBiz · 06-17-2003, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Raider Mort

Domain Name: HOTLOCALESCORTS.COM
Registrar: G.K. GROUP, L.L.C.
Whois Server: whois.gkg.net
Referral URL: http://www.gkg.net
Name Server: DNS1.INYC.COM
Name Server: DNS2.INYC.COM
Updated Date: 10-apr-2002
IP: 63.211.38.26
Location = Marine Park, NY 11229
lat/lon = 40.36n, 73.57w
source = NET whois.arin.net
type = guess
geo-key = 11229 -> .\data\geo.vdb

Domain Name: MOREMALEPOWER.COM
Registrar: G.K. GROUP, L.L.C.
Whois Server: whois.gkg.net
Referral URL: http://www.gkg.net
Name Server: DNS1.INYC.COM
Name Server: DNS2.INYC.COM
Updated Date: 28-oct-2001
IP: 63.211.38.185
Location = Marine Park, NY 11229
lat/lon = 40.36n, 73.57w
source = NET whois.arin.net
type = guess
geo-key = 11229 -> .\data\geo.vdb

Same host, same registrar.... conicidence? You tell me.

I host with cavecreek this guy is not me you have to be a total idiot to think I would post something like this.

Tipsy · 06-17-2003, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz

Hes one of my affiliates and im sure anyone from CCBill can confirm its not me, he spammed my program when I started.

I did wonder. It didn't sound like you and slagging off your own processor would be daft. Besides which I can see no reason anyone who currently uses ccBill would do so. Great company made even better by great reps. Other (not just billing) companies really could learn something by watching how they work.

Raider Mort · 06-17-2003, 08:47 AM

Will you host me also Leo ?? lol

Kimmykim · 06-17-2003, 08:48 AM

Escort Biz is always saying good things about CCBill... why would he change and then argue with himself in the same thread.

Someone needs more than babelfish.

12clicks · 06-17-2003, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by moremalepower
It seems like ccbill is not that honest for referring webmasters!
a- it drops a cookie in the computer to track signups , however if I drop a cookie and then another referring webmaster drops a cookie the second referring webmaster gets the credit. THAT SUCKS!
If I have a gallery listed and then another webmaster has a hosted gallery on the same siteand the surfer signs up after his session on the tgp the last gallery webmaster gets the credit, IT SHOULD BE THE FIRST, first come first serve!
WHAT STOPS A WEBMASTER FROM PUTTING HIS OWN CCBILL REFERRING URL SOMEWHERE ON THE SITE TO DROP THAT SECOND COOKIE TO STEAL CUSTOMERS FROM TRAFFIC SENT FROM PROMOTERS?????????
Also alot of people come back to sign up later, how come when I call ccbill they cant tell me for how long that webmaster has cookies set to stay in teh host computer for me to get credit for????
IT SEEMS UNFAIR!

Please burn out quickly and disappear.

Rochard · 06-17-2003, 08:59 AM

Life is unfair. Get used to it.

According to you, if I get your damn cookie on my computer but decide not to sign up "at that time" you still want to get credit for it. It's not first come / first serve; It's the most recent cookie that has prompted me to sign up.

You can sit here and bitch about how it's done until you are blue in the face. However, it's an imperfect world and there is no single "best" way of doing things.

corvette · 06-17-2003, 09:16 AM

Moremalepower is not EscortBiz.

He is an affiliate of EscortBiz that in the AWI thread, asked for webmasters to signup referring by site, rather than by a specific partner id.

EscortBiz has been an excellent client and strong supporter of both CCBill and Cavecreek and is a good businessman that runs a standup program. He has frequently gone out of his way to give advice and help many on this board. I speak to him regularly and just by simply comparing the posts of EscortBiz and Moremalepower, it is obvious to me that they are not the same person, benefit of the doubt aside.

Raider Mort, your investigative skills are well-meaning, but I think that in this instance, it does not make sense that Escort would impersonate as Moremalepower.

EscortBiz · 06-17-2003, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by corvett
Moremalepower is not EscortBiz.

He is an affiliate of EscortBiz that in the AWI thread, asked for webmasters to signup referring by site, rather than by a specific partner id.

EscortBiz has been an excellent client and strong supporter of both CCBill and Cavecreek and is a good businessman that runs a standup program. He has frequently gone out of his way to give advice and help many on this board. I speak to him regularly and just by simply comparing the posts of EscortBiz and Moremalepower, it is obvious to me that they are not the same person, benefit of the doubt aside.

Raider Mort, your investigative skills are well-meaning, but I think that in this instance, it does not make sense that Escort would impersonate as Moremalepower.

Thanks Corvette!!!

Radior do you really think im trying to spam domains for sale here? http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=143970

besterman · 06-17-2003, 09:21 AM

just hardcode the join link:

jpost.cgi?parnterid=xxxx&ccbill_refer=xxxx&form=xx xx

Or alternatively, built a value-added site such that surfers would want to signup from you vs. elsewhere

06-17-2003, 07:14 AM	#1
moremalepower Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 15	Problems With Ccbill It seems like ccbill is not that honest for referring webmasters! a- it drops a cookie in the computer to track signups , however if I drop a cookie and then another referring webmaster drops a cookie the second referring webmaster gets the credit. THAT SUCKS! If I have a gallery listed and then another webmaster has a hosted gallery on the same siteand the surfer signs up after his session on the tgp the last gallery webmaster gets the credit, IT SHOULD BE THE FIRST, first come first serve! WHAT STOPS A WEBMASTER FROM PUTTING HIS OWN CCBILL REFERRING URL SOMEWHERE ON THE SITE TO DROP THAT SECOND COOKIE TO STEAL CUSTOMERS FROM TRAFFIC SENT FROM PROMOTERS????????? Also alot of people come back to sign up later, how come when I call ccbill they cant tell me for how long that webmaster has cookies set to stay in teh host computer for me to get credit for???? IT SEEMS UNFAIR! __________________ THE NET STILL ISNT WET YET.

06-17-2003, 07:15 AM	#2
Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,306	Okay. __________________ ..and I'm off.

06-17-2003, 07:18 AM	#4
XYCash Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: here and there Posts: 582	That's not an honesty issue. If a person signs up from a referring URL that isn't yours then of course that person should get the credit. It means his gallery sold them on the site, not yours. __________________ XYCash Gay Affiliate Programs - Making Money For Webmasters Since 1999 - click here to sign up

06-17-2003, 07:20 AM	#5
moremalepower Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 15	iTS NOT THE GALLERY ITS the timing HE DIDNT FINISH jerking off yet __________________ THE NET STILL ISNT WET YET.

06-17-2003, 07:22 AM	#6
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,812	CCBill = Great Don't be a fucknut! Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

06-17-2003, 07:16 AM	#3
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	ccbill -> good

06-17-2003, 07:28 AM	#8
moremalepower Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 15	I thought you had to be at leats 17 to be in this forum, .... but yeh i cant be a fucknut cause im concentrating on being a spermball, pssssst __________________ THE NET STILL ISNT WET YET.

06-17-2003, 07:29 AM	#9
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	What a nob. Mind you, personally I wouldn't use any site relying just on cookies these days. I use ccbill for my billing but for the very few affiliates I use I've setup simple tracking dynamically and by cookie. It's the only way to make sure someone gets credited for all signups. Guess what though? The sale still goes to the site that sends them __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

06-17-2003, 07:31 AM	#12
moremalepower Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 15	Thats great? they should all do that, whats your site??????? __________________ THE NET STILL ISNT WET YET.

06-17-2003, 07:37 AM	#13
moremalepower Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 15	I dont think an img source can drop that cookie for signups cause then anyone can image source any program that someones referring, to get credit for traffic that the webmaster is paying for himself , it would be ridiculous people would be making millions __________________ THE NET STILL ISNT WET YET.

06-17-2003, 07:47 AM	#14
moremalepower Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 15	I dont fully understand img source where do you check to see if its being done? __________________ THE NET STILL ISNT WET YET.

06-17-2003, 08:14 AM	#15
NETBilling-Andy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Phoenix Posts: 182	Let me know if you want to go over with us how our affiliate program tracking works or if you have concerns about it. You can hit me up on email or ICQ - [email protected] or 17704874 on ICQ. Thanks Andy K CCBill Sales www.ccbill.com www.cavecreek.net www.drmnetworks.com

06-17-2003, 08:23 AM	#16
corvette Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: scottsdale Posts: 7,880	andy beat me to to it... __________________ If you need a good company for check writing services, then check out checkissuing, and for webhosting, check out Phoenix NAP

06-17-2003, 08:25 AM	#17
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	get a new copy of babelfish.

06-17-2003, 08:39 AM	#19
Raider Mort Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 278	HAHAHA This moremalepower joker is also known as ESCORTBIZ here on GFY. http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/sh...threadid=31866 hotlocalescorts.com lol Now you come in here under an alias and talk shit about CCBill ?? If the internet is real, why can't you keep it real?? lol

06-17-2003, 08:47 AM	#24
Raider Mort Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 278	Will you host me also Leo ?? lol

06-17-2003, 08:48 AM	#25
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Escort Biz is always saying good things about CCBill... why would he change and then argue with himself in the same thread. Someone needs more than babelfish.

06-17-2003, 08:59 AM	#27
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 74,099	Life is unfair. Get used to it. According to you, if I get your damn cookie on my computer but decide not to sign up "at that time" you still want to get credit for it. It's not first come / first serve; It's the most recent cookie that has prompted me to sign up. You can sit here and bitch about how it's done until you are blue in the face. However, it's an imperfect world and there is no single "best" way of doing things. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

06-17-2003, 09:16 AM	#28
corvette Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: scottsdale Posts: 7,880	Moremalepower is not EscortBiz. He is an affiliate of EscortBiz that in the AWI thread, asked for webmasters to signup referring by site, rather than by a specific partner id. EscortBiz has been an excellent client and strong supporter of both CCBill and Cavecreek and is a good businessman that runs a standup program. He has frequently gone out of his way to give advice and help many on this board. I speak to him regularly and just by simply comparing the posts of EscortBiz and Moremalepower, it is obvious to me that they are not the same person, benefit of the doubt aside. Raider Mort, your investigative skills are well-meaning, but I think that in this instance, it does not make sense that Escort would impersonate as Moremalepower. __________________ If you need a good company for check writing services, then check out checkissuing, and for webhosting, check out Phoenix NAP

06-17-2003, 09:21 AM	#30
besterman Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 623	just hardcode the join link: jpost.cgi?parnterid=xxxx&ccbill_refer=xxxx&form=xx xx Or alternatively, built a value-added site such that surfers would want to signup from you vs. elsewhere