Just as I thought. You have no clue. Don't believe eveything you read. I was in the US Marine Corps infantry. We constantly trained for operations in adverse conditions. Our training was always more intense than any of our combat missions. The 10th Mountain Division is Army...get your facts straight.

The scary thing about europe wanting to become a world power is they have shown over and over again that they just can't keep their backyard clean. Then the usa has to come clean up the mess.

i'm not going to read all this, but i wish i did, it looks like it was a lot of fun.

So let me get this straight, we're actually having a debate as to whether one country could defeat more than two dozen countries combined in a war? Pretty cool. That's a powerful country.

Ignore the nukes and ...

I'd put my money on Europe. The US could get pretty far but there's just too many space and logistical issues. How to occupy an area the size of Europe (including Russia)? I'm not saying the US definitely couldn't do it but I'd say odds something like this:

Europe 65%
US 35%

Even so, it would be nearly impossible to hold onto those occupied countries if the US did succeed.

A more interesting question might be whether all of Europe could invade and occupy the US. I give that one:

US 90%+
Europe 10%-

so why didn't they send them up there then?

The war was turned in Stalingrad and was well on its way to victory when d-day happened.
But one thing that everyone is forgeting the MASSIVE amount of supplies the US sent to England, Russia and other countries. Without this the war would have been lost.

Russia isnt part of EU

exactly, also Churchill was begging for help, and Stalin was pissing and moaning about desperately needing a western front .

The United States gave aid to EVERY country in the world, all European countries especially after WW2.
Look at the amount of hungry people the US feeds daily.

You know all you need to know. Go back to enjoying your sheltered life that those of us who served in the military have provided for you.

:1orglaugh And that group of nations is weaker especially economically now than it was 10 years ago

yeah great answer, and you call me clueless!

NOPE wrong again. The EU will go down the drain thats my prediction.

Even the world bank critisized the European central bank for their crappy economic policy..

The new power will come from third world countries in particular China.

They didnt win but they sure took a good amount of land

The US provided Russia with equiptment all throughout WW2

Nah hes right, the French are cowards.

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France is 1/3 Muslim already

Lots of it. Keegan's book on WW II has an excellent list. I typed it here on GFY once. I'll see if I can find it.

actually I'll called you clueless ;) for the main reason stated above :glugglug

Then what do you call all the US military bases already in Europe?:winkwink:

Always have twist every thread to put the US one up on everyone else don't you? :1orglaugh

How can I be *wrong*?

Can you see the future? I can't.

China is not a third world country.

I counted twelve stories today about US soldiers being killed or injured in Iraq today.

That war isn't even over and yet your having a discussion about whether the US could defeat a foe 250 times more powerful. Gawd Blimey give me a cockel darlin'



Course, reverse is more than true as well.

Got any Jellied Eels?


And 'rooster' is so fucking funny.

He tries so hard, he really does. He's like a slightly more psychotic version of theking. :1orglaugh

what i stated wasn't clueless it was fact. i did get it wrong about it being the marines though, it was your specialist 10th Mountain Division, that got altitude sickness and they say that "they don't do mountains"

All your base are belong to us

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It's one thing to defend and quite another to attack.

hmmm, by that map it's almost as if they were in countries with shit loads of oil?

:winkwink:

You could also say that all those countries are leaching off the US, which means they can spend money on other things.

Free protection if you wil. :winkwink:

Seriously though, I often find your contribution to political threads amusing in an ironic way. :winkwink:




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The Complete Military History of France

- Gallic Wars
- Lost. In a war whose ending foreshadows the next 2000 years of French history, France is conquered by of all things, an Italian.

- Hundred Years War
- Mostly lost, saved at last by female schizophrenic who inadvertently creates The First Rule of French Warfare; "France's armies are victorious only when not led by a Frenchman." Sainted.

- Italian Wars
- Lost. France becomes the first and only country to ever lose two wars when fighting Italians.

- Wars of Religion
- France goes 0-5-4 against the Huguenots

- Thirty Years War
- France is technically not a participant, but manages to get invaded anyway. Claims a tie on the basis that eventually the other participants started ignoring her.

- War of Revolution
- Tied. Frenchmen take to wearing red flowerpots as chapeaux.

- The Dutch War
- Tied

- War of the Augsburg League/King William's War/French and Indian War
- Lost, but claimed as a tie. Three ties in a row induces deluded Frogophiles the world over to label the period as the height of French military power.

- War of the Spanish Succession
- Lost. The War also gave the French their first taste of a Marlborough, which they have loved every since.

- American Revolution
- In a move that will become quite familiar to future Americans, France claims a win even though the English colonists saw far more action. This is later known as "de Gaulle Syndrome", and leads to the Second Rule of French Warfare; "France only wins when America does most of the fighting."

- French Revolution
- Won, primarily due the fact that the opponent was also French.

- The Napoleonic Wars
- Lost. Temporary victories (remember the First Rule!) due to leadership of a Corsican, who ended up being no match for a British footwear designer.

- The Franco-Prussian War
- Lost. Germany first plays the role of drunk Frat boy to France's ugly girl home alone on a Saturday night.

- World War I
- Tied and on the way to losing, France is saved by the United States. Thousands of French women find out what it's like to not only sleep with a winner, but one who doesn't call her "Fraulein." Sadly, widespread use of condoms by American forces forestalls any improvement in the French bloodline.

- World War II
- Lost. Conquered French liberated by the United States and Britain just as they finish learning the Horst Wessel Song.

- War in Indochina
- Lost. French forces plead sickness; take to bed with the Dien Bien Flu

- Algerian Rebellion
- Lost. Loss marks the first defeat of a western army by a Non-Turkic Muslim force since the Crusades, and produces the First Rule of Muslim Warfare; "We can always beat the French." This rule is identical to the First Rules of the Italians, Russians, Germans, English, Dutch, Spanish, Vietnamese and Esquimaux.

- War on Terrorism
- France, keeping in mind its recent history, surrenders to Germans and Muslims just to be safe. Attempts to surrender to Vietnamese ambassador fail after he takes refuge in a McDonald's.

The question for any country silly enough to count on the French should not be "Can we count on the French?", but rather "How long until France collapses?"

"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without an accordion. All you do is leave behind a lot of noisy baggage."

Or, better still, the quote from last week's Wall Street Journal: "They're there when they need you."

I'll withdraw the clueless and call it misinformed :thumbsup

The whole French surrendering thing is really played out.

Where's that timeline graphic?

A panel of nine medical experts commissioned by the Pentagon is expected to say that 53.9 per cent of US military personnel over the age of 20 would be classified as too fat to fight under federal obesity standards. :1orglaugh


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...484127,00.html

First the US is impossible to stop because of all of its satellite nations and because of its powers both politically and militarily. The US could easily stomp on any foreign country. Also get a great deal on hosting contact me at XFR Networks.

It's only playout till the next opportunity presents itself :glugglug

You have put things in the right perspective...although I beleive that the US would ultimately defeat the combined Armies of Europe...but occupation of Europe is a totally different story. No country of any significant size and population can be successfully occupied, for an extended period of time, without the overwhelming majority approval of the population. As for invading and occupying the US...the combined militaries of the world do not have the ability to successfully accomplish this.

Lest anyone forget the US put 16 million people in uniform during the 2nd World War with less than half the current population and a fraction of the GNP. The US should be able to triple that if push came to shove.

As to the reference that was made to Vietnam...Vietnam was a political war...micro mananged by politicians...and was a political defeat...not a military defeat.

Yes, one would assume there is an advantage to all parties involved.