Myth #1: The US military is powerful enough to invade europe. - Page 3 - GoFuckYourself.com

SexySarah · 06-17-2003, 06:44 AM

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Originally posted by <IMX>
Why am I replying to this drivel?...
Because folks always respond to nationalist sentiment.

Werd.

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So in other words, it's like a collection of different states that chose to call itself a union?
Not sure how this is a response to the issue of European economic and political insecurity. More of an admission I guess.

You miss the point entirely.

The US is a collection of states that calls itself a Union.

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Obviously I won't know you in 50 years, but I would bet serious money the EU will keep getting stronger for a very long time.
Hmm...you quote and respond yet the point escaped you?

What was your point?

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Because countries are desperate to join. There's much more to be gained by being a member, than not.

And if nothing else, that is some serious fucking tax revenue.
Hmm, what should it be spent on ...

Of course there is "New" europe and "old" europe. LOL.

Actually there isn't.

That was a media sound bite.

Please don't tell me you're that shallow?

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BlueDesignStudios · 06-17-2003, 06:48 AM

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Originally posted by BigPinPin
nice subject..i fell 20 years younger...*lol

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Ironhorse · 06-17-2003, 06:59 AM

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Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios

You forgot 18 years old ::: My car is faster than yours

79: The one with the most toys wins!

Ironhorse · 06-17-2003, 07:06 AM

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Originally posted by Jimmer
Even Rome fell

Rome didn't have 2 oceans and 2 militarily challenged countries on its borders

Raider Mort · 06-17-2003, 07:08 AM

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Originally posted by DarkJedi
France has the best special forces, their foreign legionnaires would wipe the floor with UK marine commandos (US marines arent even worth the effort)

And Ukraine soliders are?

I do not think so, they are too busy making gay content in exchange for packs of soyuz and pork fat.

<IMX> · 06-17-2003, 07:17 AM

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You miss the point entirely.

The US is a collection of states that calls itself a Union.

Yep, not a collection of countries with separate cultures, economic system and languages...hoping to combine into a single entity (LOL--I'm surprised with all your sarcasm you don't find that hilarious)... the U.S. after all is a "melting pot." (by force of course...but nobody gives a fuck now) Not sure why you insist on the unfounded comparison.

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What was your point?

That the whole discussion was pointless...what was yours?

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Actually there isn't.

That was a media sound bite.

Please don't tell me you're that shallow

Um. duh. that was mild irony...as those countries want to identify with the U.S. even while desparately hoping for E.U. status. blah blah blah etc.

SexySarah · 06-17-2003, 07:20 AM

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Originally posted by <IMX>

Um. duh. that was mild irony...as those countries want to identify with the U.S. even while desparately hoping for E.U. status. blah blah blah etc.

Indeed

blah blah blah

Jakke PNG · 06-17-2003, 07:22 AM

What's the point. It's not like US has anything to gain from invading europe. It's not gonna happen anytime soon.

madps · 06-17-2003, 07:57 AM

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Originally posted by roly

is that why in afghanistan, when the US marines were sent up into the mountains to hunt down osama they couldn't cope with the altitude and tough conditions and the UK marines had to be called in to replace them?

Were you there? Ever been a Marine? Your just another attention whore that has no idea what you are talking about.

dantheman · 06-17-2003, 08:01 AM

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Originally posted by roly

is that why in afghanistan, when the US marines were sent up into the mountains to hunt down osama they couldn't cope with the altitude and tough conditions and the UK marines had to be called in to replace them?

clueless

XYCash · 06-17-2003, 08:06 AM

My dad could beat up your dad

Jakke PNG · 06-17-2003, 08:07 AM

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Originally posted by XYCash
My dad could beat up your dad

My mom could beat your dad up.

dantheman · 06-17-2003, 08:10 AM

my grandmother at 85 would wup both your daddy and mommies asses

Indeed · 06-17-2003, 08:12 AM

Dark Jedi just wanted to stir up some shit and it worked

roly · 06-17-2003, 08:12 AM

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Originally posted by madps

Were you there? Ever been a Marine? Your just another attention whore that has no idea what you are talking about.

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THE Royal Marines went into action in Afghanistan after two major American operations against al-Qa'eda bases failed to achieve their aims.

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The Marines' services were offered to the Americans after their troops ran into difficulties in the early days of Operation Anaconda last month, when they were ambushed by hundreds of al-Qa'eda fighters.

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The high altitude caused immense problems for the men of 10th Mountain Division, which, despite its name, is based in New York state. Many suffered from altitude sickness and one is alleged to have said: "We don't do mountains."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...17/wafg117.xml

there you go

KRL · 06-17-2003, 08:13 AM

The United States and Russia could destroy any country on the planet. End of story.

It is estimated that the United States has more than 7,200 nuclear warheads deployed in its strategic forces, over 1,600 in its non-strategic forces, and over 10,000 in stockpile. US strategic forces include 601 ICBMs, 448 SLBMs, and 295 nuclear bombers.

One Trident submarine can carry up to 192 nuclear warheads.

Today there are 2,500 nuclear targets in the US National Target Base; 2,000 of these are in Russia, 300-400 in China, and 100-200 located elsewhere.

It is estimated that Russia has more than 6,000 nuclear warheads deployed in its strategic forces, over 3,600 in its non-strategic forces, and 12,000 in stockpile. Russian strategic forces include 750 ICBMs, 436 SLBMs, and 80 nuclear bombers.

Kaboom!

Greg B · 06-17-2003, 08:16 AM

The Porn Dude · 06-17-2003, 08:17 AM

I can't believe that we are on the third page of a thread that insults the U.S. and there is no sign of the Super Patriot.

BigPinPin · 06-17-2003, 08:20 AM

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Greg B · 06-17-2003, 08:20 AM

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Originally posted by The Porn Dude
I can't believe that we are on the third page of a thread that insults the U.S. and there is no sign of the Super Patriot.

Super patriot here! See toon above.

madps · 06-17-2003, 08:22 AM

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Originally posted by roly

there you go

Just as I thought. You have no clue. Don't believe eveything you read. I was in the US Marine Corps infantry. We constantly trained for operations in adverse conditions. Our training was always more intense than any of our combat missions. The 10th Mountain Division is Army...get your facts straight.

rooster · 06-17-2003, 08:25 AM

The scary thing about europe wanting to become a world power is they have shown over and over again that they just can't keep their backyard clean. Then the usa has to come clean up the mess.

iroc409 · 06-17-2003, 08:26 AM

i'm not going to read all this, but i wish i did, it looks like it was a lot of fun.

ADL Colin · 06-17-2003, 08:26 AM

So let me get this straight, we're actually having a debate as to whether one country could defeat more than two dozen countries combined in a war? Pretty cool. That's a powerful country.

Ignore the nukes and ...

I'd put my money on Europe. The US could get pretty far but there's just too many space and logistical issues. How to occupy an area the size of Europe (including Russia)? I'm not saying the US definitely couldn't do it but I'd say odds something like this:

Europe 65%
US 35%

Even so, it would be nearly impossible to hold onto those occupied countries if the US did succeed.

A more interesting question might be whether all of Europe could invade and occupy the US. I give that one:

US 90%+
Europe 10%-

roly · 06-17-2003, 08:27 AM

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Originally posted by madps

Just as I thought. You have no clue. Don't believe eveything you read. I was in the US Marine Corps infantry. We constantly trained for operations in adverse conditions. Our training was always more intense than any of our combat missions. The 10th Mountain Division is Army...get your facts straight.

so why didn't they send them up there then?

foe · 06-17-2003, 08:27 AM

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Originally posted by RocHard

Being a former US MARINE, I take great offense at this.

The United States Marine Corps is - without a doubt - the best and most elite unit of any country. The US Marine Corps is the smallest branch of of the United States Military, yet is larger than the armed forces of most countries - including the UK.

Also.... It's unfair to say that Europe would be speaking German now if it wasn't for the US. Russia went through hell and back during WW2, and lost many more men. The difference is Russia was defending it's own turf, while the US wasn't. The US could have looked the other way.

And at the same time, the US was fighting Japan.

France and Germany combined couldn't take on the US Marine Corps.

The war was turned in Stalingrad and was well on its way to victory when d-day happened.
But one thing that everyone is forgeting the MASSIVE amount of supplies the US sent to England, Russia and other countries. Without this the war would have been lost.

foe · 06-17-2003, 08:28 AM

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Originally posted by Indeed

he didn't say USA could not take France and Germany..he said USA could not take *Europe*....which means France, Germany, Russia, UK, Spain, Italy etc. all combined (15 countries)

Russia isnt part of EU

rooster · 06-17-2003, 08:29 AM

exactly, also Churchill was begging for help, and Stalin was pissing and moaning about desperately needing a western front .

foe · 06-17-2003, 08:30 AM

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Originally posted by SexySarah

Exactly.

Watching all the patriots on this board talking about American history (conveniently re-written) and military invincibility (how many wars has the US actually won ON IT'S OWN in the last 50 years?) is very amusing.

Who knows? One day, they might actually snap out of their delusional fever.

The United States gave aid to EVERY country in the world, all European countries especially after WW2.
Look at the amount of hungry people the US feeds daily.

madps · 06-17-2003, 08:30 AM

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Originally posted by roly

so why didn't they send them up there then?

You know all you need to know. Go back to enjoying your sheltered life that those of us who served in the military have provided for you.

foe · 06-17-2003, 08:31 AM

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Originally posted by <IMX>
blah blah blah, all this talk of fighting is rather pointless, as you Europeans can't even compare your own specific countries to the U.S.

You need to compare an ever growing group of nations.

It won't matter until the EU goes from being an economic union (to better compete with the U.S.) to a political one with a central government and European countries reduced to cutural states. (to avoid that feeling of marginalization you have now in the geo-political spectrum).

See you in 50 or so years when this becomes relevant.

And all Europeans have Armies again.

And that group of nations is weaker especially economically now than it was 10 years ago

roly · 06-17-2003, 08:33 AM

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Originally posted by madps

You know all you need to know. Go back to enjoying your sheltered life that those of us who served in the military have provided for you.

yeah great answer, and you call me clueless!

foe · 06-17-2003, 08:33 AM

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Originally posted by SexySarah
Why am I replying to this drivel?...

Obviously I won't know you in 50 years, but I would bet serious money the EU will keep getting stronger for a very long time.

Why?

Because countries are desperate to join. There's much more to be gained by being a member, than not.

And if nothing else, that is some serious fucking tax revenue.

Hmm, what should it be spent on ...

NOPE wrong again. The EU will go down the drain thats my prediction.

Even the world bank critisized the European central bank for their crappy economic policy..

The new power will come from third world countries in particular China.

foe · 06-17-2003, 08:34 AM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather
Let's have a war in the winter in finland. I bet most of US based soldiers would be afraid of woods after that, I'm not even kidding. The good thing is that nobody wants to invade cold and miserable finland. Even the russians decided not to win us in the war some 50 years ago.

They didnt win but they sure took a good amount of land

foe · 06-17-2003, 08:35 AM

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Originally posted by digi
If anyone saved europe from the germans it was russia. The brittish and the americans only fought about one third of the german military while russia fought the rest. If it had been the other way around the us/brittish forces wouldnt have had a chance.

Im sure everyone here thinks its great of the us to come here and stop hitler but to say that they "saved" europe is so fucking dumb.

The usa can try to invade all they want, all it would take is for france and russia to point a couple of nukes at your part of the world and you could take all your marines and shove em up your ass.

The US provided Russia with equiptment all throughout WW2

foe · 06-17-2003, 08:36 AM

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Originally posted by SexySarah

Come on now.

That joke is getting so old.

Honestly - read up about the Foreign Legion.

Would you be scared of well trained soldiers with nothing to lose?

Nah hes right, the French are cowards.

foe · 06-17-2003, 08:36 AM

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Originally posted by XYCash

foe · 06-17-2003, 08:37 AM

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Originally posted by Ironhorse
Massive middle-eastern armies will come to France's aid if needed.

France is 1/3 Muslim already

ADL Colin · 06-17-2003, 08:39 AM

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Originally posted by foe

The US provided Russia with equiptment all throughout WW2

Lots of it. Keegan's book on WW II has an excellent list. I typed it here on GFY once. I'll see if I can find it.

dantheman · 06-17-2003, 08:47 AM

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Originally posted by roly

yeah great answer, and you call me clueless!

actually I'll called you clueless ;) for the main reason stated above

MaxDent · 06-17-2003, 08:53 AM

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Originally posted by DarkJedi
If you win against third world countries with 40 year old military hardware it doesn't mean you can take over the world.

Then what do you call all the US military bases already in Europe?

SexySarah · 06-17-2003, 08:55 AM

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Originally posted by Colin
A more interesting question might be whether all of Europe could invade and occupy the US. I give that one:

US 90%+
Europe 10%-

Always have twist every thread to put the US one up on everyone else don't you?

SexySarah · 06-17-2003, 08:57 AM

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Originally posted by foe
NOPE wrong again. The EU will go down the drain thats my prediction.

How can I be *wrong*?

Can you see the future? I can't.

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Even the world bank critisized the European central bank for their crappy economic policy..

The new power will come from third world countries in particular China.

China is not a third world country.

scooby doo as scooby does · 06-17-2003, 09:00 AM

I counted twelve stories today about US soldiers being killed or injured in Iraq today.

That war isn't even over and yet your having a discussion about whether the US could defeat a foe 250 times more powerful. Gawd Blimey give me a cockel darlin'

Course, reverse is more than true as well.

SexySarah · 06-17-2003, 09:08 AM

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Originally posted by scooby doo as scooby does
I counted twelve stories today about US soldiers being killed or injured in Iraq today.

That war isn't even over and yet your having a discussion about whether the US could defeat a foe 250 times more powerful. Gawd Blimey give me a cockel darlin'

Course, reverse is more than true as well.

Got any Jellied Eels?

And 'rooster' is so fucking funny.

He tries so hard, he really does. He's like a slightly more psychotic version of theking.

roly · 06-17-2003, 09:14 AM

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Originally posted by dantheman

actually I'll called you clueless ;) for the main reason stated above

what i stated wasn't clueless it was fact. i did get it wrong about it being the marines though, it was your specialist 10th Mountain Division, that got altitude sickness and they say that "they don't do mountains"

ADL Colin · 06-17-2003, 09:16 AM

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ADL Colin · 06-17-2003, 09:18 AM

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Originally posted by SexySarah

Always have twist every thread to put the US one up on everyone else don't you?

It's one thing to defend and quite another to attack.

InsaneMidget · 06-17-2003, 09:19 AM

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Originally posted by Colin
All your base are belong to us

hmmm, by that map it's almost as if they were in countries with shit loads of oil?

SexySarah · 06-17-2003, 09:19 AM

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Originally posted by Colin
All your base are belong to us

You could also say that all those countries are leaching off the US, which means they can spend money on other things.

Free protection if you wil.

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ADL Colin Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Tube Titans, USA Posts: 11,929	So let me get this straight, we're actually having a debate as to whether one country could defeat more than two dozen countries combined in a war? Pretty cool. That's a powerful country. Ignore the nukes and ... I'd put my money on Europe. The US could get pretty far but there's just too many space and logistical issues. How to occupy an area the size of Europe (including Russia)? I'm not saying the US definitely couldn't do it but I'd say odds something like this: Europe 65% US 35% Even so, it would be nearly impossible to hold onto those occupied countries if the US did succeed. A more interesting question might be whether all of Europe could invade and occupy the US. I give that one: US 90%+ Europe 10%- __________________ Adult Date Link - $50 PPS starting NOW! -- good and JUICY! skype = "adultdatelink"

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