Hey amp if you want to change this topic to "How the viper treats his customers" I give you permission..

No reason??? No Reason....

You made errors all over the place...

And I did not attack you till you attacked me, instead of going "Hey sorry heres your graphic have a nice day..."

oh i made errors, well good luck son, http://www.zone-adult.com is definately an improvement. :glugglug

Your right, I am a moron I actualy paid you in the first place..
What a fool I was..

I'm happier with that, then I am with what you gave me...

Thats what counts right...If the CUSTOMER is happy...
Who cares what you think

Amputate Your Head was the fucking bitch who made you post this. Now you are his bitch forever Seth J Goldberg.

It's a little too obvious, everything was fine when I delivered you the stuff, you said : "thank you" and "I like it a lot".

Idiot

Besides, he's been spreading shit about me on ICQ as well, I heard it from a witness. Fucking shithead

AMP???

I barely know him, about all I know about amp is he's a designer he knows fireworks and he likes surfing...all shit in threads i've been in.

Amp prob does not even know who the fuck I am, nor does he prob care.

Spreading shit on ICQ about you?... I dont think so...

I told you I lked it cause I needed to get those 300 dpi files from you and I was sick about you delaying I had to get it into print THAT day... Or it would cost me more than your little project cost.

Your right this whole project was a clusterfuck from day one. Things where handled so poorly that I just wanted out. I figured I could retain the logo's and the graphics and eat the rest as a loss, when I realized the sig was fucked I lost it.

Please post the evidence!
:)

You seem to have self destruction down to a tee TheViper.

Newbie Supernova:
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Posting the evidence would reveal the guy who told me.

I am not going to do that, sorry.

I heard it from my monkeys uncles cousin who heard it from his sisters best freinds dog so it must be true .....


Just a little of what I know of AMP and I am by no means an anybody but of the very few times I have talked to amp on ICQ or something he has always been a straight up guy ....

AMP doesn't talk shit in ICQ to people ... if he has something to say he comes here and says it ... straight to your face ... then if he's wrong which he has been a few times (nobodys perfect) he promptly admits it and moves on with life.

Go ahead and flame me now too since I spoke my mind ... it seems to be what your good at.

Viper is on the fast track to self-implosion. :)

go hard or go home

I thought he was your witness with the evidence!
:)

Amputate 24-4-03 3:01 one sec bro... got another dildo begging for
graphics again.... gotta get rid of him....

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Yea straight in the face, hahaha

bahahahaha thats evidence ????

Get a fucking clue ....

When your half as good as AMP and turning away half the work he has to you'll understand life a little bit .... maybe.

I thought you had evidence...

you're so fucking stupid Marvin you don't even realize what you're quoting.... lol

lemme see... when some fucking loser bugs the shit outta me for free graphics on a daily basis, hmmm.... yeah, that makes him a dildo. And it makes you the most ignorant guy in the room if you can't figure out the simple language you're quoting.

Oh, I know... all this time you've been thinking you actually have some sort of angle.... but what you have is nothing Marvin. Nothing but an empty fucking skull.

why I even bother to explain life to complete fucking morons is beyond me.

Edited: [Fuck it]

You are instable Seth J Goldberg, first you are not going to do a chargeback, then you are, then not, what's it gonna be "dildo" (the word AMP likes to use)

:warning

same thing he always does... talk shit until until everyone gets sick of him and moves on. The guy is fucking clueless man.... there is no sign of any intelligence coming from the Viper zone.

just charge back the credit card and let him eat it Keta. This fucker only learns the hard way.

Well for one you seem to think that using my real name is an insult or will hurt me some how? Whats up with that. I am a business man people know my name.

Second you can start by changing your little under the name line. I

Third you can attempt to take some of this in and learn from it..

Its obvious I dont want to have to charge it back, why do you think i've been wishy washy about it. Dont you get it. But if you continue to push my buttons I'll get pissed enough and just say fuck it. I've given you many outs. You just dig yourself deeper.

That's just a pissed off customer letting out his frustrations.

I thought professional designers are supposed to keep working on the design until the customer is satisfied with it, then deliver it.
If the customer is not satisfied with the design, why not make it right? If I am looking for a designer, I want someone that I know will try their best to deliver a product that I am satisfied with.
Isn't that what you were paid for?

You really should enroll in some business classes at you local community college. You just might benefit from it.:2 cents:

i dont think he will be getting any customers from GFY

I did work it out with Seth and he even thanked me for doing such a good job. And now he comes up with this thread, which makes me wonder if he was, lets say, "pushed" by somebody to make the post.

:2 cents:

Ketadream, just put a link to this thread in your signature and no one will ever do business with this monkey again. He insults customers, doesn't address any of the problems and then tries to get one up on you by posting your personal information on the board. Anyone who deals with this idiot gets what they deserve, It isn't like this is the first thread about him this week.

SpaceAce

Even if he was 'pushed' you could have handled this thread 100 times better than you have done so far.

if you're implying me fuckstain, (I realize I'm talking to a block of brainless cheese here, but I'll say it anyway) I don't even know Keta for starters.... and beyond that, no one needs pushing to post on your dumb ass. I got better things to do that run around "talking about you" on ICQ you fucking idiot. You're doing a bang up job of digging your own fucking hole. You certainly took the name of the board to heart didn't you.... I've not seen anyone fuck themselves to this degree in a long time.

You're fucking paranoid, fucked up, angry, incompetent and stupid all rolled into one.... christ, if there was a blue fucking ribbon for being the prized dumbass of the month, you'd be sportin' that fucker on the short bus every morning.

No I was not "pressured" into posting this, I posted this cause I was pissed.

Someone in another thread mentioned it to me and it struck home, its pretty un-professional to be responsing to people in a business enviorment when your sig graphic cant even spell things correct.

And you know what he was right. After you delivered the product I ripped you a new asshole on ICQ but I NEEDED those 300dpi graphics to get to print, so instead of arguing with you for 10 hours, I blew smoke up your ass. I changed my whole entire tone with you. Maybe I was wrong in this step...But i needed to get those to print, when you made the lettering FAT to cover up the graphics my printer was right there and he said no no way..Lets get in there with a pen tool ourself. So i told you it was fine and did it myself. I'm not sure if you understand how printing works but if you can squeeze your stuff in with other people work you can often get a discount as they dont have to use another stamp.

This whole deal is a clusterfuck at the moment out of what was delivered I could only use
1) The Interzone Logo
2) The Zone Adult Logo

And at the time of starting this post I could not use the sig file, dont you see how that could frustrate a customer. Ever wonder why you snuck on MSN and found me and I told you I never wanted to do business with you, then blocked you

Yea I fucked up, I blew smoke up your ass and told you that you did ok work so that I could at least get SOMETHING out of it.

Amp, yea I noticed the paranoia as well. Very odd where that came from.

Oh yea ok you cought me... I went out to hawaii last weekend and me and amp stayed out drinking till 3am thinking about ways to fuck viper over...

Ummmm yea ok...

Truthfully though AMP defended you in a thread the other day, of course he had no clue he was defending you, cause I did not use your name viper. I was talking about being pissed off for not getting "Source, layer exposed files" even though I specified it.
In the thread amp said that source files should not be given (in his opinion)

Ok thats the great way out of this...I just figured it out
1) You change your little text under your name
2) You release me the layer exposed, source(fireworks files are fine) for the interzone logo, the Zone-Adult logo AND the sig file.
3) I will write off the zone-adult site as a loss and move on
4) We can go in peace dislikeing each other but not getting in each others way...

Fair?

Ketadream -

Awright tired of seeing this sorta thing happen.

Keta I will design what Viper failed to do for free.

TOTALLY free.
ICQ: 78943384

You ICQ me, let me know what ya need for this little project and I will do it.
No strings attached.
Not all designers are fuck up's some got some class and those few that got class frequent GFY loose business because of shit like this...

WOAH!

I am completly and totaly floored by your offer, no seriously I did not expect it, and it shows ALOT of class.

I honestly dont know what to say other than holy shit thanks!

I'll drop you a message after dinner.

Kool, look forward to it:thumbsup