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Old 05-27-2003, 04:28 AM   #1
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Screwed over by Amputate Your Head

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...pagen umber=2

This is the thread where I stated that I joined the Xstreamcash team http://www.xstreamcash.com

Well to make a long story short, I partnered up with Amputate Your Head (and Gary/Silvertab as well). Gary was the guy who arranged promotions and stuff, Silvertab the programmer and AYH and I the designers.

Here is a part of the log where amputate your head comes with the proposal:
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Amputate 24-4-03 3:34 we only got one designer.... me.

and a ton of shit to design.

Well, as you know.... contract design is a
fuckin' job. I been doing it for two years in
adult, and if I stop, so do the checks....
I hate a daily job.... which is why we started
this program.... I want money comin' in even when
I decide to take a week off.....

only reason I'm gonna ask this is cuz I checked
out all those sample you sent..... your shit is
tight man.....
You want a piece of the program?

No clients to satisfy.... just us... you and me
would be totally in charge of all design work.
The only guys we gotta answer to are ourselves.
It's not overnight riches..... but eventually, it
could be a nice phat chunk of steady cash coming
in without having to constantly solicit design
jobs....

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I produced a gallery, but amp said no hurry. So I started on the interracial site as well, and then Gary came up with the story that he wanted to drop me from the team, and pay me for the galleries I did. The reason he wanted to drop me was that I was not productive enough, which is bullshit, since Amputate your head and I would work on sites together.

You should really check out their site now, http://www.xstreamcash.com , because not a new niche has been added since I "left" forced. Gary did pay me for the 2 galleries, but lol, that is peanuts for what a good affiliate program would make.

I am sure Gary and Amputate your Head teamed on making up a reason for throwing me out, and by saying this I will probably get flamed. (Because Amputate Your Head is so famous here for some reason, probably for being a nice Chatty Katty

Here's the part how Amputate Your Head replied after Gary made his decision:

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Xstream 5-5-03 22:28 hey wtf is this crap, Gary send me this tell: hey
dude, listen, were gonna have to end our
partnership. Your just not producing fast enough
and im sure amp made it clear to you at the
beginning that we need someone to produce.
Send an invoice for gallery and button to
[email protected]
thanks

Amputate 5-5-03 22:47 Gary is in charge of all operations. Please
direct any questions to Gary at ICQ: 169405612
-----------------------

Now all of a sudden Gary is in charge. see the irony compared with the first part. I am sure they hoped I would not post this, but here it is bitches. So my advice to every designer / programmer here is NOT to partner up with these bitches, cuz they will drop you sooner or later. Xstreamtrash it is

You can read the whole log here:

http://www.bornthugs.com/theviper/amputateyourhead.txt

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Didn't Amp join the adult.com team?
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I put the popcorn in the microwave. Been reading the msn post. Not cool. Lets see whats gonna happen.
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...and the ICQ logs come out again...

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Woooo Drama !!

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whats up with the the topic name anyways ?
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Yea the topic should definately be: How Gary & Amputate Your Head screw a team member over.
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Old 05-27-2003, 04:46 AM   #9
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i'll comment on the situation in a bit,but firstly i dont find it right to post your whole private conversations with anyone. I never did and I never would such thing. Think about it. It's like recording the phonecalls of somone without knowing it and then putting them in public.
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Is it right to drop a team member like that after you just partnered up? I partly agree with you Soul_Rebel, but I had to do this, I hope you do understand my choice
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i'll comment on the situation in a bit,but firstly i dont find it right to post your whole private conversations with anyone. I never did and I never would such thing. Think about it. It's like recording the phonecalls of somone without knowing it and then putting them in public.
what other option did he have? Just explaining the situation?
You know that doesnt work on gfy.. specially with amp involved.

Anyway.. still reading the log.. interesting..
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Gary's fucking cool. People i trust, trust him. Good enough for me. And he loves <i>my</i> cock.
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this is the log file of their whole communication over time from what see. It even has usernames and passwords there...
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Damn dude, you started about signing some papers but didn't???? Why not, these days nobody can be trust as is shown once again. Dont trust'someone on his GFY postcount you know, good luck with it hope it works out for you.

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They all do not work anymore, Soul Rebel. Thanks Quashe, I really should have had the papers signed, but you saw the reaction of Amp.
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They all do not work anymore, Soul Rebel. Thanks Quashe, I really should have had the papers signed, but you saw the reaction of Amp.
yea he was definitly trying to avoid it
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They all do not work anymore, Soul Rebel. Thanks Quashe, I really should have had the papers signed, but you saw the reaction of Amp.
I guess you got a bit too excited, lesson learned trust nobody
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Didn't Amp join the adult.com team?
I shouldn't comment on other people's business beyond the "right on!" and "yeah, what the fuck do you say to that?!?" stuff...but, if I am not mistaken (yet I often am), AMP joined adult.com after these conversations took place
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yea he was definitly trying to avoid it
yeah, thats the part that strikes me the most. very
disturbing.

btw.. isnt amp a mod on gfy these days?
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i'll comment on the situation in a bit,but firstly i dont find it right to post your whole private conversations with anyone. I never did and I never would such thing. Think about it. It's like recording the phonecalls of somone without knowing it and then putting them in public.

Let the asskissing begin...you are the first one...putting an hidden kiss on amps but.
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Yea I have chat with Gary too, but from the start he was not very nice to me for some reason...
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...btw.. isnt amp a mod on gfy these days?
Yup...west coast though...or still in Hawaii?
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Yea I have chat with Gary too, but from the start he was not very nice to me for some reason...
Probably because you were getting a piece of his pie
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Let the asskissing begin...you are the first one...putting an hidden kiss on amps but.

NOT true

You are missing my point. I'm not kissing Amp's butt. I don't find a reason their whole discussions to be part of gfy. Simple as that.
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What were my other options, Soul_Rebel
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post only the parts of icq log having to do with the exact business relationship you were trying to establish or had/have. Maybe i'm paranoid or something...nevermind me.

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The reason there are written agreements in business when people partner up is exactly for situations like this.

No tickie no laundry. Get it in writing next time.
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Oh believe me, KRM, no doubt about that. Even though papers do not guarantee you an income, especially when you are on the other side of the world
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hmm...that icq log is interesting

my fav. part:


Amputate 24-4-03 4:15 oh shit.... how the hell do I call the Netherlands?

Xstream 24-4-03 4:15 0031

Xstream 24-4-03 4:15 that is the international number

Amputate 24-4-03 4:19 well, I don't reall y need to call....



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i see both of you as wrong for different reasons. I'll wait Amp's reply.

I'm getting proposals for common business,partnerships,jobs,deals so often it's not a joke anymore. I'm trying politely decline them every time because things are more complicated than they look on 1st view.

I do have a business partner and it's not somone you know. He has less technical skills on pcs than most of you, but still he is my partner. He is someone with good marketing knowledge and which is someone I can trust more than anyone. We do have common communication language and we are doing offline business as well which he takes cares.

I'll repeat things are way more complicated than they look in such cases.
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The reason there are written agreements in business when people partner up is exactly for situations like this.

No tickie no laundry. Get it in writing next time.

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in a sentence:

if i cannot physically reach you within an hour to beat you till you end up to a hospital, you do not qualify.
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i see both of you as wrong for different reasons. I'll wait Amp's reply.

I'm getting proposals for common business,partnerships,jobs,deals so often it's not a joke anymore. I'm trying politely decline them every time because things are more complicated than they look on 1st view.

I do have a business partner and it's not somone you know. He has less technical skills on pcs than most of you, but still he is my partner. He is someone with good marketing knowledge and which is someone I can trust more than anyone. We do have common communication language and we are doing offline business as well which he takes cares.

I'll repeat things are way more complicated than they look in such cases.
and how does your story relate to this??

This was not about a proposal that didnt work out, it
was about a deal.
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if i cannot physically reach you within an hour to beat you till you end up to a hospital, you do not qualify.
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it's not about a deal,it's about a partnership and I can't see how some people do such things over the internet. I'm oldschool on this.
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fucking rain,if it rains i need a day to deal with my partner :/
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it's not about a deal,it's about a partnership and I can't see how some people do such things over the internet. I'm oldschool on this.
leave the internet, now
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i see both of you as wrong for different reasons. I'll wait Amp's reply.

I'm getting proposals for common business,partnerships,jobs,deals so often it's not a joke anymore. I'm trying politely decline them every time because things are more complicated than they look on 1st view.

I do have a business partner and it's not somone you know. He has less technical skills on pcs than most of you, but still he is my partner. He is someone with good marketing knowledge and which is someone I can trust more than anyone. We do have common communication language and we are doing offline business as well which he takes cares.

I'll repeat things are way more complicated than they look in such cases.
hey soul rebel, wanna partner up with me ?

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hey soul rebel, wanna partner up with me ?




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well the most funny thing was that Amputate your Head talks with a high pitched voice, not like the hardcore guy u would expect

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well the most funny thing was that Amputate your Head talks with a high pitched voice, not like the hardcore guy u would expect =)
Not relevant, funny though but not relevant
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Sucks dude,
But we all you you do kick-ass designs

Just start your own freelance corp and then you wont have anyone else to look up too ^-^
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pretty fucked.. im the kind of mother fucker that would retaliate and think about it after i did it
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well the most funny thing was that Amputate your Head talks with a high pitched voice, not like the hardcore guy u would expect
I'm more concerned about the high pitched attitude:


Xstream 24-4-03 3:01 hey there

Amputate 24-4-03 3:01 one sec bro... got another dildo begging for graphics again.... gotta get rid of him....

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I'm more conserned with the high piched attitude:


Xstream 24-4-03 3:01 hey there

Amputate 24-4-03 3:01 one sec bro... got another dildo begging for graphics again.... gotta get rid of him....
Yeah noticed the same, guess some people have a big ass attitude
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