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Old 05-27-2003, 02:12 PM   #101
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The thread was called "Amputate your Mom".... I didn't see how that really reflected anything Viper had to say. What he really wants is for people to cry for him. Just helping you out Viper.
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Old 05-27-2003, 02:18 PM   #103
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So, maybe he didn't produce anything in three weeks, you can't say you really told him to produce so much in that amount of time.
If you give up after three weeks, then you must've been thinking he ain't doing shit after about a week or maybe two weeks, why not telling him by then to go fix some stuff. That might've been better for both sites, at least both would know what they were up to.

Or am i missing something.

Not taking any sides here, gfy wast just about to become a more friendly place. ;-)
Like I said, Gary was tired of waiting on him. Gary was my partner, not Viper. Viper was brought in to alleviate some of the burden on me by doing design work. Viper didn't do that. It was mutually agreed on by Gary and myself to let Viper go. Viper was paid for his button and his gallery, even though we didn't use them.

So what exactly is it that Viper is crying about? I've yet to see anything resembling a cohesive argument here.
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Old 05-27-2003, 02:18 PM   #104
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The thread was called "Amputate your Mom".... I didn't see how that really reflected anything Viper had to say. What he really wants is for people to cry for him. Just helping you out Viper.
Seems more like abuse of "power" to me
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Seems more like abuse of "power" to me
Not really. Abuse of power would be deleting his stupid thread rather than let intelligent people come to their own conclusions.
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Not really. Abuse of power would be deleting his stupid thread rather than let intelligent people come to their own conclusions.
People have a right to do as they wish and say what they wish. Either way you changed the title of the thread and took that away from him. Let ppl make up their own minds
You said "The thread was called "Amputate your Mom".... I didn't see how that really reflected anything Viper had to say". Their are tons of ppl on GFY who title threads that have nothing to do with whats actually in the thread and you don't do anything about that...
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You whiney crybabies wanna bitch about the thread title, no problem. I changed it back to the original pointless thread title.

Now then, this thread is baseless. Viper was paid for his work and was let go. End of story. Thread closed.
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Okay, it's open.


Now, someone better fucking post some goddamned proof that I fucked Viper over or someone's head is gonna fucking roll.
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Okay, it's open.


Now, someone better fucking post some goddamned proof that I fucked Viper over or someone's head is gonna fucking roll.
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UNLOCKING threads..wtf

1st time i see this happening, you'll better have a good explanation about it mr.
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1st time i see this happening, you'll better have a good explanation about it mr.
i'm on to your boneprone-style attempt at inflating your post count!!
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ok time for a serious response

As I said earlier this kind of partnerships rarely work. Viper needs to understand he got contacted to take part to something that already existed and he could be out of it anytime.
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i'm on to your boneprone-style attempt at inflating your post count!!
i see that and i dont like it. Fletch started like this aswell and left me behind on #

is it now your turn? sad!
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i see that and i dont like it. Fletch started like this aswell and left me behind on #

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um how about a head count. How many designers out there have been contacted about a job and then after they have put their work into it all of a sudden the person says oh well i've found someone else. If you don't get payment up front and you don't get a signed contract then it's your fault you forgot to get out the vaseline first. Ass tears hurt baby but in the business and on this board you have to get used to it.
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um how about a head count. How many designers out there have been contacted about a job and then after they have put their work into it all of a sudden the person says oh well i've found someone else. If you don't get payment up front and you don't get a signed contract then it's your fault you forgot to get out the vaseline first. Ass tears hurt baby but in the business and on this board you have to get used to it.
Viper was initially contacted to make some galleries. 3 to be exact. I offered repeatedly to pay him for them even after he accepted taking a percentage of the operation.

HE DELIVERED NOTHING. Well, a lousy gallery and a button. Which he was paid for. He was also warned up front that lack of production would get him axed.

Viper has nothing to be crying about. Instead he should be looking in the mirror and wondering what he can do next time to avoid a similar situation. Nobody fucked him. He was paid.

I still fail to see how anyhting he has said remotely resembles any form of a cohesive argument. What is he arguing?

Fuck you Viper. Go back to whatever it was you were doing. Take your 2 months in the design biz and go buy a fucking education.
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This thread illustrates precisely why contracts are such an essential part of professional business.

Although one could argue whether the ICQ log itself functions as a contract but you guyd didn't really agree on anything. When you do things on a whim you end up on the street!
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This thread illustrates precisely why contracts are such an essential part of professional business.
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This thread illustrates precisely why contracts are such an essential part of professional business.
Contract wouldn't have helped him. Nothing from nothing is still nothing. Contract or no contract, Viper was axed for being useless.
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Contract wouldn't have helped him. Nothing from nothing is still nothing. Contract or no contract, Viper was axed for being useless.
It would have helped. The contract would spell out each parties responsibilities and maybe with a contract other resolutions would be possible besides posting this on public board and wasting all our time, despite the high entertainment value.
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See isn;t this great, no-one reading what anyone else is writing ^^

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Viper was initially contacted to make some galleries. 3 to be exact. I offered repeatedly to pay him for them even after he accepted taking a percentage of the operation.

HE DELIVERED NOTHING. Well, a lousy gallery and a button. Which he was paid for. He was also warned up front that lack of production would get him axed.

Viper has nothing to be crying about. Instead he should be looking in the mirror and wondering what he can do next time to avoid a similar situation. Nobody fucked him. He was paid.

I still fail to see how anyhting he has said remotely resembles any form of a cohesive argument. What is he arguing?

Fuck you Viper. Go back to whatever it was you were doing. Take your 2 months in the design biz and go buy a fucking education.
was merely saying that if he felt he was being offered something he should have gotten it in writing (whatever he felt he was being offered) I've been in the same boat. Did all the design work on an affiliate rogram for a partnership well the other guys couldn't hold up to his end of the oral agreement so I told him to have a nice time I was out. I think the prog stayed another month and now it's gone. I'm left with some domain names but no bitterness. It gives me time to pursue other avenues. But if he feels he was fucked it was his own fault if he didn't produce his end of the bargain.
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It would have helped. The contract would spell out each parties responsibilities and maybe with a contract other resolutions would be possible...
Speaking from personal experience...
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Speaking from personal experience...
Yes, I've been around the block a few times and seen more than one of these 'partnerships' fall apart because things were not spelled out.
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I'm still waiting Viper.
LOL, he's gone to bed, and you know it, it's 2 AM here.
Totally unrelated, I know, but a funny thought just occurred to me...you used to get so pissed off when people said that lensman paid you to post here. It's sorta become true now
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LOL, he's gone to bed, and you know it, it's 2 AM here.
Totally unrelated, I know, but a funny thought just occurred to me...you used to get so pissed off when people said that lensman paid you to post here. It's sorta become true now
No one is paying me to post.
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Ah, it still pisses you off
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