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Old 06-11-2003, 04:51 AM   #1
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zthumbs.com

down for me since a few days...
can you access it ?
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Old 06-11-2003, 04:52 AM   #2
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<a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20020606164208/http://www.zthumbs.com/index.html">http://www.zthumbs.com</a>

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Old 06-11-2003, 04:53 AM   #3
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Old 06-11-2003, 05:01 AM   #4
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Down here.
That's one of Colin's sites.

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Old 06-11-2003, 05:10 AM   #5
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Old 06-11-2003, 05:12 AM   #6
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Looks like United Colo actually
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Old 06-11-2003, 05:14 AM   #7
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Like woe'd.

It's set up on a new server and the domain should be propagating.

I just hired someone to check the galleries and work the trades a few weeks ago so traffic should be returning to normal soon. Yes, new galleries will actually be posted ;-)

Traffic is fun as shit, isn't it? (TGPs, CJs, SEs). I miss it in a way but no time to work it myself anymore.
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Old 06-11-2003, 05:15 AM   #8
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Looks like United Colo actually
Good work. Is now. Yup.
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Old 06-11-2003, 05:18 AM   #9
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Speaking of TGPs, there sure are a lot of gallery cheaters nowadays. Is it really worth it to submit a gallery and remove it as soon as it is listed? I would think it makes more sense to build relationships with TGP owners and make sure you get listed all the time.
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Old 06-11-2003, 05:27 AM   #10
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Speaking of TGPs, there sure are a lot of gallery cheaters nowadays. Is it really worth it to submit a gallery and remove it as soon as it is listed? I would think it makes more sense to build relationships with TGP owners and make sure you get listed all the time.
Right SO give me a partner status, and you won't have to worry anymore over cheaters
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Old 06-11-2003, 05:33 AM   #11
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Right SO give me a partner status, and you won't have to worry anymore over cheaters
Email me the URLs you use and I'll add them. [email protected]

I just programmed a new gallery checker that "learns" from which galleries were accepted and declined in the past and orders them accordingly making it more likely they'll be added. Do other people have that?

Trying to find the right balance between that and "partner status" submissions.

Does anyone do real-time submissions with partners? I'm going to try some new stuff for kicks.

I just do this stuff for fun now. ;-)
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Old 06-11-2003, 07:44 AM   #12
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I post partner submissions the same day - actually within a few hours, as the pages are updated all thru the day by the linkchecker. Linkchecker polices the gallery lists, pulls any re-directing links, and rebuilds the pages. All day long. So it can be pretty close th real time. I don't like real time, since it puts too much of a load on the server, rebuilding the pages (I have a shitload of pages) each time a trusted partner submits.
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I post partner submissions the same day - actually within a few hours, as the pages are updated all thru the day by the linkchecker. Linkchecker polices the gallery lists, pulls any re-directing links, and rebuilds the pages. All day long. So it can be pretty close th real time. I don't like real time, since it puts too much of a load on the server, rebuilding the pages (I have a shitload of pages) each time a trusted partner submits.
Yeah, OK. I admit it. I knew YOU accepted nearly real-time submissions Steve. So maybe I'll steal this from you ;-)
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Old 06-11-2003, 07:52 AM   #14
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i have always liked Zthumbs. cool ass site.
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i have always liked Zthumbs. cool ass site.
Thanks, man. :-)
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I just programmed a new gallery checker that "learns" from which galleries were accepted and declined in the past and orders them accordingly making it more likely they'll be added. Do other people have that?

That's a cool idea. Personally, I track inbound traffic from submissions, and list submissions that give me a high number of inbound uniques higher in my review tool. It's obviously not perfect (once my traffic level is high enough to interest scammers, I'm sure someone will try to use a hitbot), but the quality seems to be higher for now.

Is your checker a simple rule based one, like checking which submitters have had lots of galleries listed, or does it use anything more advanced?

On my todo list is something that also take into account click stats to list galleries with descriptions that are likely to do well higher in my review tool... Was thinking about using bayesian networks or a neural net for it. Will be interesting to see if it's worth the effort
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Is your checker a simple rule based one, like checking which submitters have had lots of galleries listed, or does it use anything more advanced?

Yes, the simple version. I just did a it a few days ago because someone will be checking my galleries and want to give them some tools to make it easier.
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Yeah, OK. I admit it. I knew YOU accepted nearly real-time submissions Steve. So maybe I'll steal this from you ;-)
LOL

not my idea - it is just a feature of the admin scrip tI am using. And several admin script can do this. I'm just an end using grunt, amigo
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On my todo list is something that also take into account click stats to list galleries with descriptions that are likely to do well higher in my review tool... Was thinking about using bayesian networks or a neural net for it. Will be interesting to see if it's worth the effort
I guess I'm not the only one that's messed around with stuff like this.

I was thinking about Bayes probability for a while but couldn't think of anything that made sense from a script sense. If you get something let me know ;-) [email protected]

I tried various things - all kinds of crazy ideas - but ultimately the well-known factors like high quality galleries, site design, placement of blinds, loading speed, having a good system to keep trades alive through resets, etc. overwhelmed all the clever stuff I was trying.

Eventually, I ended up with a REALLY simple script that just ordered all the outs according to uniques in. I'm not a great programmer by any means - it's only a hobby - so that decision was because I didn't know how to deal with the cgi hogging all the systems resources as traffic went up. I went from about 3k visitors/day to 80k in 30 days. I had no idea what I was doing programming-wise and slimmed down to the simplest version.
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not my idea - it is just a feature of the admin scrip tI am using. And several admin script can do this. I'm just an end using grunt, amigo
That's my story and I'm sticking it with it. I stole it from you, my friend :-)
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That's a cool idea. Personally, I track inbound traffic from submissions, and list submissions that give me a high number of inbound uniques higher in my review tool. It's obviously not perfect (once my traffic level is high enough to interest scammers, I'm sure someone will try to use a hitbot), but the quality seems to be higher for now.

Do you give submitters submission codes or do it by URL? If by URL, what do you about free hosts? Directories? Not accept them? ;-)
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