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Theo · 06-10-2003, 01:07 AM

all eyes on me

detoxed · 06-10-2003, 01:07 AM

this is GFY of course...

this whole thread is just something to keep me entertained before i fall asleep.. i take nothing on GFY seriously.

BrettJ · 06-10-2003, 01:09 AM

re reading your posts - learning that you weren't asking - but just starting a thread -

that could have been stated a little clearer.

so a newbie comes to GFY - wants to be in the online adult entertainment -

my opinion - he needs to dump out a laundry list of all of the skills/resources he has at his disposal.

time?
contact with women?
html skills?
photoshop?
video editing?
money?
Search Engine Knowledge?
etc...

detoxed · 06-10-2003, 01:11 AM

lets make this a better question:

If someone has a paysite sitting there, waiting for members ready to use, $500 cash and hosting, what would be the best way to spend that $500 to gain new members?

BrettJ · 06-10-2003, 01:16 AM

you could lock a few webmasters into promoting you - by prepaying them for joins - at a slightly less price than you would pay them on post pay

or

maybe rent a super small email

or

top gallery placement on several small tgps

or

content- for hosted galleries

or

several templates for hosted galleries

or

offer it as a prize for random successful webmaster promoting your program that month

Theo · 06-10-2003, 01:19 AM

what if i was moderator?

i would ban you

what if i was your best friend?

i would beat you

what if i was your business partner?

i would kill you

lagwagon · 06-10-2003, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by detoxed
lets make this a better question:

If someone has a paysite sitting there, waiting for members ready to use, $500 cash and hosting, what would be the best way to spend that $500 to gain new members?

use your traffic that you said you have and test it before you start dumping money into it.

detoxed · 06-10-2003, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lagwagon

use your traffic that you said you have and test it before you start dumping money into it.

oh my god.. this is a fucking hypothetical situation to find the best use for $500

Theo · 06-10-2003, 01:34 AM

detoxed, you have exceeded the daily allowed limit on questions. Please try again tomorrow or we'll start overchanging you.

thank your for your business

detoxed · 06-10-2003, 01:36 AM

what is the daily limit on question?

Theo · 06-10-2003, 01:37 AM

375

tell me we didn't count correctly and we'll give you a free month

Why · 06-10-2003, 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by detoxed

but the problem is finding places to buy it that will have a positive return on investment..

well if your not a DIPSHIT that shouldnt be to hard, they did what they were paid to do, send you clicks. if you cant conver it thats your own damned fault.

so its not finding traffic with a decent ROI. but rather turning a decent ROI from said traffic.

there are people who can convert chiristian traffic.

be smart.

lagwagon · 06-10-2003, 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by detoxed

oh my god.. this is a fucking hypothetical situation to find the best use for $500

dude, i gave you a good answer. a real answer. a legit answer. cant you tell that i was not fucking with you on that one? if you want to burn that hypothetical $500 that you have in your pocket be my guest. otherwise use your traffic that you say you have and test that fucking members area. why waste the money? class dismissed!

Tala · 06-10-2003, 01:44 AM

Okay, say you got a newb who wants to know if he can purchase targetted traffic for specific niches, where do you send him? Can he purchase targetted traffic, or does he just ride out the non-targetted stuff and pray for the best?

*trying to get good responses here and keep the thread on at least a semi-serious level...but taking into account that this is GFY, ready to sort through the crap to find answers if any*

baddog · 06-10-2003, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by detoxed

it doesnt matter if its a fucking trial of 29.95 join.

well, yeah it does. Exactly. 10 $29.95 signups are going to be tougher than 10 $4.95 signups.

TDF · 06-10-2003, 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by detoxed
lets make this a better question:

If someone has a paysite sitting there, waiting for members ready to use, $500 cash and hosting, what would be the best way to spend that $500 to gain new members?

trafficccccccccccccc

baddog · 06-10-2003, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BrettJ

plus - this is gfy - you need to accept that people are gonna give you shit.

after 2,000+ posts you would think that much would be learned

besterman · 06-10-2003, 08:03 AM

it amazes me the number of newbies wanting to strike it rich with minimal investment. There is nothing wrong with that, however, I would argue that one's expectations of return on investment are highly skewed in this "dot-com" age and if money can make more money, it seems much easier than having to have great intelligence and still fail because you didn't invest beyond a critical threshold.

FlyingIguana · 06-10-2003, 08:06 AM

buy a gallery spot on the hun everyday

dantheman · 06-10-2003, 08:09 AM

i didnt read the thread but the easiest way it to click on the link in my sig and get 15 bucks for each 1 dollar join

15x10=150< EASY BANK

Ray@TastyDollars · 06-10-2003, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Exxxotica
Fuck I used to do 10 a day with ease. (they'd retain too) TGP conversions just aint what they used to be

Till November of last year I was doing 15 per day with posting two galleries per day, ZERO paid spots.

Today I have to buy spots to make less

chowda · 06-10-2003, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
There tons of ways to get these or more sales/day. All ways have some things in common. They require time, money, effort and knowledge. If you are missing even one of them, most probably you won't achieve your goal. Find something its not boring for you and it's a good start.

damn 3 out of 4... wish i had more knowledge

Darren · 06-10-2003, 08:30 AM

promote something different, yes shameless spam but see sig.

InsaneMidget · 06-10-2003, 08:35 AM

Well, some interesting replys to a simple question. Does anyone actually work? Or just trash talk on gfy all day?

To start, get hosting, a domain, and whatever other basic shit you need. Find a sponsor.

What you want to do, is if the sponsor offers a lot of niches, and provides you with a FPA (Full page ad) for each niche/site, then you can easily start your own little porn network (Traffic pump).

First, take a niche site, and get it's FPA, place this on it's OWN page. Call this page NICHE.html, replace niche with whatever it is. Continue doing this until you have 20+ niche FPA's all on their own page. Next, under the FPA, make a table (2 height x 5 width) In this table, you are going to place 10 single word links to your other FPA's. For example, on your teen.html page, place a table underneath the FPA, linking to asians, lesbians, blacks, etc...

Also, if the surfer is freeloader, you are going to have a popup when the window closes, linking to a join4free program. Just make a little window linking to a bunch of the join4free sites.

Do that for EACH FPA page.

Next, in the top level of your domain, make a table linking to each FPA page. Also, under this table, you can link to other things, such as a personals site, sex toy site, or whatever. Also, on this index page, you will have a console open linking to join4free programs, or whatever you want basically.

Now, you have the basic structure, you need traffic. Take 90 photos, either free pics from the sponsor, or buy some sets. Next, you are going to make 6 galleris of 15 photos each. On these galleries, have half the links going directly to the sponsor's site, and the other half going to your traffic pump. Submit those galleries to tgp's using a hand submit program, or to it yourself.

Next, you are going to take the galleries, and group them in two's. This should leave you with three groups of two galleries. You are going to make a warning page & a main page for each of these three groups. You are going to make these into freesites. Follow the basic linklist rules, on the warning and main page, make a table linking to NICHE FPA's that you made. Also, have some links going to your sponsor directly. Remember to link to the galleries on your main page. Submit to link lists.

Next, you are going to take those same group galleries, and make a warning page, selling page, and a members enter page. This will make it into a basic AVS site. From this point, you should have an idea how the site links should be put in. Follow the rules, submit the AVS sites to link lists.

Now, out of 90 photos, we made 6 galleries, 3 freesites, and 3 avs sites.

When you start getting a larger amount of sites, you can make your own link lists, and TGP's, linking to all your own sites. You can also feed traffic to these Link lists and TGP's, by adding a recip link on all the galleries and sites you submit to other link lists and TGP's.

Also, just so the search engines will spider ALL your sites, on your index page for your FPA's, on the bottom of the page under your counter, make a period, that links to each site you make.

DO all this, then repeat.

If anyone has anything to add, go nuts. This is just a simple laid out plan.

AdultNex · 06-10-2003, 08:52 AM

Good suggestions InsaneMidget:

Quote:

Next, you are going to take the galleries, and group them in two's. This should leave you with three groups of two galleries. You are going to make a warning page & a main page for each of these three groups. You are going to make these into freesites. Follow the basic linklist rules, on the warning and main page, make a table linking to NICHE FPA's that you made. Also, have some links going to your sponsor directly. Remember to link to the galleries on your main page. Submit to link lists.

How well do these link lists convert?

It look as if although these link lists bring in targetted visitors, they don't convert nor bring any traffic.

dionysos · 06-10-2003, 10:18 AM

Im new to this biz. And what im doing is bying a domain, making a index / warning page, and at the buttom af this page I link to 10 - 50 homemade fpa´s, and back again. Thise fpa´s Is made, and optimized fore the SE´s, (kind of doorway pages)they have different titels, related to the niche im promoting with this domain, and they have lots of keey word rich body text.
On this warning page i have a enter link like on a normal free site, linking to the main page. I make the main pages kind of a fpa to, but with some nice teasing thums. But I dont link thise thumbs ot the big pic(I dont lik them at all). So there is nothing for the surfre to click on, but my sponser links.
Then somtimes, to get some links to this domain(and my Hub) i make a quick "normal free site" in a different folder. Here i have some links to my sponsers like normal, but also to the index page and my hub. The links to the indeg and hub I just put at the buttom of the pages. In the copyright text or somthing!
And to adwoid "angry se´s" I awlso link back to the LL free site" from the index page!

What do you think about this way of doing it?

I dont get much traffic yet. But the se traffic that im starting to get converts WERY good! And its some pretty stable traffic.

neewwman · 06-10-2003, 10:23 AM

InsaneMidget · 06-10-2003, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AdultNex
Good suggestions InsaneMidget:

How well do these link lists convert?

It look as if although these link lists bring in targetted visitors, they don't convert nor bring any traffic.

Well, since your recip button to your link list would be on a warning page of all your freesites, the traffic would come from other linklists. They click on your recip for something new, they then click a category, then since all these freesites & avs sites listed on your link list are all yours, if anyone see's a sponsor they like, they click and join. This traffic may not convert great on your link list, but it's still your traffic, your clicks, and your signups! Rather then send the surfer off to another webmaster for them to make money off it.

Matt 26z · 06-10-2003, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by detoxed
I dont care about payout per sale, I'd like to know what the easiest way to work up to 10 sales a day is

Payout per sale and the ability to get to 10 sales per day do go hand in hand.

10 email sponsor sales = $10-$15, and that's not hard if you've got the proper traffic.

10 real paysite sales = $200-$350, and that's hard even if you've got the proper traffic.

As for how to get 10 real sales per day....

On 1:500 sponsor ratios you'd need to send 5,000 per day. If 0.5% (0.005) clicked on the banner to get there from your site, you'd need 1million people to see that banner. This is of course assuming you're only dealing with 1 banner, which you aren't.

If you've got 4 different sponsor banners, you'd need 250,000 per day to look at the set of 4 to get that 10 sales. This is also figuring all 250,000 will look at all 4 banners, and that these banners are fairly new to them.

So the question then becomes, how do you get that kind of daily traffic. Even those who know won't tell. Go ask the Kernal for his secret recipe while you're at it.

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06-10-2003, 10:18 AM	#76
dionysos Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 32	Im new to this biz. And what im doing is bying a domain, making a index / warning page, and at the buttom af this page I link to 10 - 50 homemade fpa´s, and back again. Thise fpa´s Is made, and optimized fore the SE´s, (kind of doorway pages)they have different titels, related to the niche im promoting with this domain, and they have lots of keey word rich body text. On this warning page i have a enter link like on a normal free site, linking to the main page. I make the main pages kind of a fpa to, but with some nice teasing thums. But I dont link thise thumbs ot the big pic(I dont lik them at all). So there is nothing for the surfre to click on, but my sponser links. Then somtimes, to get some links to this domain(and my Hub) i make a quick "normal free site" in a different folder. Here i have some links to my sponsers like normal, but also to the index page and my hub. The links to the indeg and hub I just put at the buttom of the pages. In the copyright text or somthing! And to adwoid "angry se´s" I awlso link back to the LL free site" from the index page! What do you think about this way of doing it? I dont get much traffic yet. But the se traffic that im starting to get converts WERY good! And its some pretty stable traffic. __________________ ICQ 232729095

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06-10-2003, 01:07 AM	#51
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	all eyes on me

06-10-2003, 01:07 AM	#52
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	this is GFY of course... this whole thread is just something to keep me entertained before i fall asleep.. i take nothing on GFY seriously.

06-10-2003, 01:09 AM	#53
BrettJ ol' timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 4,715	re reading your posts - learning that you weren't asking - but just starting a thread - that could have been stated a little clearer. so a newbie comes to GFY - wants to be in the online adult entertainment - my opinion - he needs to dump out a laundry list of all of the skills/resources he has at his disposal. time? contact with women? html skills? photoshop? video editing? money? Search Engine Knowledge? etc...

06-10-2003, 01:11 AM	#54
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	lets make this a better question: If someone has a paysite sitting there, waiting for members ready to use, $500 cash and hosting, what would be the best way to spend that $500 to gain new members?

06-10-2003, 01:16 AM	#55
BrettJ ol' timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 4,715	you could lock a few webmasters into promoting you - by prepaying them for joins - at a slightly less price than you would pay them on post pay or maybe rent a super small email or top gallery placement on several small tgps or content- for hosted galleries or several templates for hosted galleries or offer it as a prize for random successful webmaster promoting your program that month

06-10-2003, 01:19 AM	#56
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	what if i was moderator? i would ban you what if i was your best friend? i would beat you what if i was your business partner? i would kill you

06-10-2003, 01:34 AM	#59
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	detoxed, you have exceeded the daily allowed limit on questions. Please try again tomorrow or we'll start overchanging you. thank your for your business

06-10-2003, 01:36 AM	#60
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	what is the daily limit on question?

06-10-2003, 01:37 AM	#61
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	375 tell me we didn't count correctly and we'll give you a free month

06-10-2003, 08:03 AM	#68
besterman Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 623	it amazes me the number of newbies wanting to strike it rich with minimal investment. There is nothing wrong with that, however, I would argue that one's expectations of return on investment are highly skewed in this "dot-com" age and if money can make more money, it seems much easier than having to have great intelligence and still fail because you didn't invest beyond a critical threshold.

06-10-2003, 08:06 AM	#69
FlyingIguana aspiring banker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 10,870	buy a gallery spot on the hun everyday

06-10-2003, 08:35 AM	#74
InsaneMidget Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ontario Posts: 3,767	Well, some interesting replys to a simple question. Does anyone actually work? Or just trash talk on gfy all day? To start, get hosting, a domain, and whatever other basic shit you need. Find a sponsor. What you want to do, is if the sponsor offers a lot of niches, and provides you with a FPA (Full page ad) for each niche/site, then you can easily start your own little porn network (Traffic pump). First, take a niche site, and get it's FPA, place this on it's OWN page. Call this page NICHE.html, replace niche with whatever it is. Continue doing this until you have 20+ niche FPA's all on their own page. Next, under the FPA, make a table (2 height x 5 width) In this table, you are going to place 10 single word links to your other FPA's. For example, on your teen.html page, place a table underneath the FPA, linking to asians, lesbians, blacks, etc... Also, if the surfer is freeloader, you are going to have a popup when the window closes, linking to a join4free program. Just make a little window linking to a bunch of the join4free sites. Do that for EACH FPA page. Next, in the top level of your domain, make a table linking to each FPA page. Also, under this table, you can link to other things, such as a personals site, sex toy site, or whatever. Also, on this index page, you will have a console open linking to join4free programs, or whatever you want basically. Now, you have the basic structure, you need traffic. Take 90 photos, either free pics from the sponsor, or buy some sets. Next, you are going to make 6 galleris of 15 photos each. On these galleries, have half the links going directly to the sponsor's site, and the other half going to your traffic pump. Submit those galleries to tgp's using a hand submit program, or to it yourself. Next, you are going to take the galleries, and group them in two's. This should leave you with three groups of two galleries. You are going to make a warning page & a main page for each of these three groups. You are going to make these into freesites. Follow the basic linklist rules, on the warning and main page, make a table linking to NICHE FPA's that you made. Also, have some links going to your sponsor directly. Remember to link to the galleries on your main page. Submit to link lists. Next, you are going to take those same group galleries, and make a warning page, selling page, and a members enter page. This will make it into a basic AVS site. From this point, you should have an idea how the site links should be put in. Follow the rules, submit the AVS sites to link lists. Now, out of 90 photos, we made 6 galleries, 3 freesites, and 3 avs sites. When you start getting a larger amount of sites, you can make your own link lists, and TGP's, linking to all your own sites. You can also feed traffic to these Link lists and TGP's, by adding a recip link on all the galleries and sites you submit to other link lists and TGP's. Also, just so the search engines will spider ALL your sites, on your index page for your FPA's, on the bottom of the page under your counter, make a period, that links to each site you make. DO all this, then repeat. If anyone has anything to add, go nuts. This is just a simple laid out plan.