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Old 12-02-2002, 07:40 AM   #1
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alien007, MagicMan, Tom Davis, xratedstudio.com, and any other name you go by......

You're a fucking thief.
You ripped off 2 guys (Brad from SinEmpire, and Chodadog)
They tried to buy your fucking content to help a guy out and you turned around and fucked them:
http://www.tunafishbitch.com/forum/s...=&threadid=135
Nice going asshole.
Goodluck getting more business.
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Old 12-02-2002, 07:41 AM   #2
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Old 12-02-2002, 07:58 AM   #6
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lol guys, i purchased exclusive rights to this content with license (just wanted some extra stuff for affiliates).

So if anyone wants it and is willing to pay to cover download bandwidth or cds contact me.
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I could never understand the point of cheating or ripping off someone.

Although I do it to 12clicks all the time, but thats different.

I always thought the idea was business longevity, and by being honest and ethical and having good relations with webmasters, you get longevity.
Oh well, I guess some go for the quick buck now and screw the longterm income flow.
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What's up with that TunaFishBoard? That looks like they are copying GFY? Is that new? Never seen it before...
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What's up with that TunaFishBoard? That looks like they are copying GFY? Is that new? Never seen it before...
yeah, its a rip off of GFY.
Its a chatboard where you can post stuff and its organized in threads.
how dare they!
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heymatty, how'd that lolitateen.tv ever work out for you?
make any money with it?
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dude, its a simple thing to not piss me off.
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dude, its a simple thing to not piss me off.
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What a complete waste of existence this magicman is. If he can't even handle a few small business transactions properly, if a lousy $250 refund poses problems, then he's a waste of skin.

Fuck, if you can't handle the small deals, how the hell would he handle an order for a couple grand?


skinimalive I say.
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12Clicks, add me as looser number 3 to that list!

http://www.tunafishbitch.com/forum/s...0171#post10171
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I know MagicMan for a few years now. I have had quite a few friends buy content off him without any prob but they also never asked for a refund. I don't see why wms don't just dowload content and burn it on a CD themselves. I personally would never buy cheap content like that so I can have content that all other Joe/Blow has. However, at the same token I don't see how MagicMan could just not have $250 to refund.. absurd
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That sucks Johnny.
We were giving him the benefit of the doubt. Should have posted this sooner.
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Old 12-02-2002, 09:28 AM   #18
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Should have went with my deal, 10 thousand pics for 25 bucks
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someone find his address and we'll send every dildo shaving to his house so maybe he can melt them together and make a legit dildo sale worth more than all the content he ripped to pay everyone back.
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i bought the same package from him a couple of weeks ago, everything was delivered...
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i bought the same package from him a couple of weeks ago, everything was delivered...
Then appearantly, you were lucky.
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Thanks 12Clicks for drawing attention to the issue!!

Still waiting for my refund... lol

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Hmmmm...he's been bugging me for a while now to buy his content.

The other day he asked me what I would buy whatever he had for.

Just too busy to buy content right now.
TG... I saw this thread.

Whew....
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yeah, its a rip off of GFY.
Its a chatboard where you can post stuff and its organized in threads.
how dare they!
ah but you know how to treat the ladies !

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Yeah everything was delivered here as well, that's not the point tho
He lies to make sales and his content was way worse than wat he promised.
Also all that gay content and those she-males
no one said anything about THAT
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damn & to think this guy suckered me into feeling bad for him last night
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ah but you know how to treat the ladies !

I have a soft spot for broads.
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I bought a simalar deal from him... everythijng he listed plus some extra vidoe content... all i really wanted is the video to use as trade stuff... i paid half the money and got all the stuff he listed and have been waiting for the rest to complete the deal and make the final payment... and yes the image content sucks in comparison to everyone else but the video content is ok.. btw i have been waiting a week now... he said his father passed away
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Fuck I hate scammers. I mean, I make my living selling hitbot traffic to 12clicks, but that's not REALLY a scam.
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You know, I tried to help out this guy a few days ago by getting him some customers, cause I felt sorry for him...He was telling me how he needed $50 so he can take his girl to dinner or something, and if he didnt have money, he wouldnt get pussy...So I got 2 people to buy content from him...

Then Choda icqed me and told me what happened with Brad...I left MagicMan a few messages, but he hasent gotten back to me yet.

I wish I would have known about this guy sooner and not recommended his stuff
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Ok, now that I read more of this, it doesn't really look like a scam. I didn't read the entire thing, so someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

1- This guy say's he broke, needs money fast, and will almost give away his content for that reason

2- Brad buys the content for dirt cheap, and the guy doesn't send him the CD. He DOES give him web access to the content.

3- Brad only buys content on CDs, and asks for a refund.

4- The guy doesn't have the money for a refund.

5- Brad and 12clicks ruin this guys career on the boards.


I mean, the only reason you got the content so cheap was because he was broke, how can you expect a refund? Download the fucking content and burn it to a CD, no big deal right?

Keep in mind I don't know this guy or any more details than what I've posted here, so this guy could very well be a complete scam artist.
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I don't know the guy either, but I know two other people that bought all his stuff. They received the content just fine, and thought it kinda sucked but know that they got what they paid for. Besides, 12clicks posted that he seen it and it was GOOD. Must be right ? Surely he wouldn't endorse something if it wasn't. Same reactions more or less that people had with PixMasters stuff.

What is this TunaFish shit anyway ? And this post, although there are others already talking about the xratedstudio shit.. seems more like a selfish move by 12clicks to try and redeem whatever imaginary respect he thinks he had in the first place.

"Magicman, you've got until monday to return these guys money or I'll ruin you." -- 12clicks

OH NO! Run ! You'll be ruined by 12clicks!

The only way this guy is going to be ruined is by his own actions. Funny how people like to claim credit when someone is successful or when someone gets fucked.
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I don't know the guy either, but I know two other people that bought all his stuff. They received the content just fine, and thought it kinda sucked but know that they got what they paid for. Besides, 12clicks posted that he seen it and it was GOOD. Must be right ? Surely he wouldn't endorse something if it wasn't. Same reactions more or less that people had with PixMasters stuff.

What is this TunaFish shit anyway ? And this post, although there are others already talking about the xratedstudio shit.. seems more like a selfish move by 12clicks to try and redeem whatever imaginary respect he thinks he had in the first place.

"Magicman, you've got until monday to return these guys money or I'll ruin you." -- 12clicks

OH NO! Run ! You'll be ruined by 12clicks!

The only way this guy is going to be ruined is by his own actions. Funny how people like to claim credit when someone is successful or when someone gets fucked.

Well you have to take it easy on 12clicks, he's very stupid.
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I bought it and got it.
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It's not the content itself that pisses me off
I didn't expect goddesses or anything. But it's how he sells it that makes me mad. It's filled with hardcore gay stuff, the chicks get worse and worse with each set.
Also lying and making up bullshit stories to get our sympathy is pretty much what pisses most people off.
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2- Brad buys the content for dirt cheap, and the guy doesn't send him the CD. He DOES give him web access to the content.
this seems reasonable enough, if only he didn't give him a false FED-EX number to begin with, only to say it got lost through regular mail

as for what's going to happen to his reputation... when people are mentioning you with the likes of Steve Goldman/Simon Masters/Steve Goobeldy/whatever-the-fuck-he-calls-himself-this-week, that's far from a good thing
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It's not the content itself that pisses me off
I didn't expect goddesses or anything. But it's how he sells it that makes me mad. It's filled with hardcore gay stuff, the chicks get worse and worse with each set.
Also lying and making up bullshit stories to get our sympathy is pretty much what pisses most people off.
True, but if his dad really died you guys are assholes.
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Leader,

Yes..I'd feel bad if his dad died.
No one wants to see someone loose a loved one.

But..a deadth in the family..buy my content story.
I've heard that a couple times by people and with scammers everywhere. People are sceptical.

Myself...I don't wanna be scammed again.
God knows, I've had my share over the years here.

Content scams, traffic scams, you name it.

But..I agree...if thats what truely has happened.
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I don't know the guy either, but I know two other people that bought all his stuff. They received the content just fine, and thought it kinda sucked but know that they got what they paid for. Besides, 12clicks posted that he seen it and it was GOOD. Must be right ? Surely he wouldn't endorse something if it wasn't. Same reactions more or less that people had with PixMasters stuff.

What is this TunaFish shit anyway ? And this post, although there are others already talking about the xratedstudio shit.. seems more like a selfish move by 12clicks to try and redeem whatever imaginary respect he thinks he had in the first place.

"Magicman, you've got until monday to return these guys money or I'll ruin you." -- 12clicks

OH NO! Run ! You'll be ruined by 12clicks!

The only way this guy is going to be ruined is by his own actions. Funny how people like to claim credit when someone is successful or when someone gets fucked.
Well, anyone dumb enough to register "clickmojo" as his business wouldn't be bright enough to look at the dates of the threads in question now would they.

Brujah, if you had half a brain you would be more than just a hanger on in this business.

Oh, and [the leader] or Russell Maiorana or Richard Helman or whatever it is you go by. Obviously you can't read either.
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I can't read? Please tell me what point I got wrong. I don't know the whole story, so please point out where I'm wrong instead of being a prick as usual?
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I can't read? Please tell me what point I got wrong. I don't know the whole story, so please point out where I'm wrong instead of being a prick as usual?
if I do an idiot's work for him, how will he learn?
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if I do an idiot's work for him, how will he learn?

Be sure to let me know the next time you find a hot content deal, will you?
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the guy told me that he needed money for an emergency. and told my friend about his girl being in a car wreck.

12clicks is right... he is fucking webmasters
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the guy told me that he needed money for an emergency. and told my friend about his girl being in a car wreck.

12clicks is right... he is fucking webmasters
That's all was looking for. I just figured, if the not shipping the CD thing is all he did wrong, he doesn't really deserve this. 12clicks's word doesn't really mean anything to me.


But I guess he's feeding different people different lines of BS, so hopefully he'll get what he deserves.
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Old 12-02-2002, 04:43 PM   #48
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Yeah, I think he prolly is scamming people...in a gheto sort of way
From talking to him, I highly doubt he will be able to cough up the money he took from people as he sounded like he has no money...or maybe that is his gig, to sound like he is poor?
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Old 12-02-2002, 04:52 PM   #49
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Well, anyone dumb enough to register "clickmojo" as his business wouldn't be bright enough to look at the dates of the threads in question now would they.
I gotta hang on by a thread here, cause you know.. I only gots half a brain BUT I think this date "12-01- 2002 11:21 PM" of a thread started by Dildozer with almost 100 replies comes before this date "12-02- 2002 09:40 AM" in your new thread.
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Old 12-02-2002, 04:54 PM   #50
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But I guess he's feeding different people different lines of BS, so hopefully he'll get what he deserves.
Yes, he lies and tells different stories to various people. Here's part of a conversation i had with him.

Chodadog 23/11/02 04:11 so, whatever happened with Brad. Did you end up sending him his content?
MagicMan 23/11/02 04:12 i am refunding him his money and i am still licensing the content to him ;O))
Chodadog 23/11/02 04:12 oh okay. cool..
MagicMan 23/11/02 04:13 ;o))
Chodadog 23/11/02 04:14 sent [edit: that would be the paypal i had sent him for 70 US dollars, FYI]
MagicMan 23/11/02 04:14 ok cool ;o))
MagicMan 23/11/02 04:16 i will send it out monday ok??
Chodadog 23/11/02 04:17 okay

Of course, once he had received the paypal, i didn't hear from him after that day. He gave me electronic access to <i>some</i> of the content, but i paid extra to have it mailed, and expect it to be mailed. Seems fair enough, seeing as i paid for it, right?

Note, in the above ICQ, everything he said is a lie. Brad has not received his refund, and the content most defintley hasnt' been licensed to Brad, paid for or not.
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