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Jake · 02-11-2003, 05:19 PM

I'm finally getting around to setting up billing for my fiance's amateur site and I'm looking into Hughes Billing. Does anyone have any experience with these guys?

AOLGuy · 02-11-2003, 05:43 PM

not a clue...

try:

ProAdult

AVS is a much easier sell, and their premium Quantum program is excellent.

Jake · 02-11-2003, 06:53 PM

C'mon guys a little help here? They seem to have their shit together but I'd really like to hear from some people who use them?

ZoiNk · 02-11-2003, 06:57 PM

I never heard of them and don't know anyone that uses them. Try www.acpay.com or www.glo-bill.com if you want known billing companies. I would personally go with acpay over glo-bill. If you are a US resident and are willing to pay the $750 fee, go with Epoch.
ZoiNk

NetRodent · 02-11-2003, 07:18 PM

I've never heard of them and they appear to have only been around since August, 2002.

They also appear to have a very messy signup page.

Cogitator · 02-11-2003, 07:19 PM

ccbill, globill, epoch, jettis, websitebilling. That's all I gotta say...

p00p · 02-11-2003, 07:30 PM

Pssst...Charlie, it is the middle finger.

Jake · 02-11-2003, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p00p

Pssst...Charlie, it is the middle finger.

Nah, that's Allie's come hither pose.

angelsofporn · 02-11-2003, 09:10 PM

hughes billing took the deed to my house and made me suck dick on the streets of hongkong for 3 months to get it back

Jake · 02-11-2003, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by angelsofporn
hughes billing took the deed to my house and made me suck dick on the streets of hongkong for 3 months to get it back

Only 3 months? That's not too bad. I've heard it's like 6 months of anal sex with no lube when IBill takes the deed to your house.

NETbilling · 02-11-2003, 10:24 PM

Cogitator,

You forgot 1 very, very important name...

Netbilling
--------------------------

charlie6763,

After you see everything Hughes billing has to offer, give us a call to tour our system and services. I promise you will not find a more flexible system or lower rates!

Toll Free within the US: (888)357-8166
Outside the US: (661)252-2456

Thank you, Mitch Farber
Netbilling.com

steffie · 06-08-2003, 05:51 AM

Didn't they loose their Merchant Account a while back?
I read something like that on another board.

So uhm, if you didn't go with Hughes Billing so far you might really want to look into that

SGS · 06-08-2003, 06:20 AM

Go with CCBill if you want a serious processor to make money with or GloBill if you are an amateur or a hobbyist and want to see all of your passwords all over the Internet.

nevermind · 06-08-2003, 06:54 AM

Recently posted on another board:

To all of our clients :

Effective May 15 2003, Humboldt Bank the merchant bank for Hughes Billing assigned all of it's rights to First National Bank of Nevada (FNBA) of Reno. At this time, Hughes Billing was contacted and told that FNBA would no longer represent Hughes Billing due to the high volume of processing. Hughes Billing was given seven business days to find another merchant partner.

Reacting immediately, Hughes Billing was accepted by another processing bank to take the place of Humboldt Bank. At this time, it appeared there would be no processing interruptions to any of the Hughes Billing clients. Working with us, the new processing bank for Hughes Billing setup a temporary interim account to continue processing all sales until the High Risk account was established so none of our clients would experience any interruptions in service. Hughes Billing did not notify any of it's clients because there was the understanding that everything was under control and functioning smoothly. There was NO CAUSE for any concern.

However, a week after the new interim account was processing, auditors from the new merchant bank informed us this temporary interim account was not acceptable. So as of today, Hughes Billing is unable to process any transactions other than electronic checks. If you don't have electronic checks please write and we will get you set up ASAP

We deeply regret this situation. After talking with the new bank this morning, this problem will not be resolved for another week. We understand the difficulty this situation has caused.We are working very hard to get everyone up and running ASAP.

This does not effect your June 10th payout. It will go out on time as expected. All recurring will be ran once we start processing again so only new sales are affected.

Hughes Billing Legal Department

nevermind · 06-08-2003, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SGS
Go with CCBill if you want a serious processor to make money with or GloBill if you are an amateur or a hobbyist and want to see all of your passwords all over the Internet.

CCBill has just as many, if not more hacked passwords than any other processor:

http://ksoze.deny.de/ccbill_exp.html

Their scripts are lame.

SGS · 06-08-2003, 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nevermind

CCBill has just as many, if not more hacked passwords than any other processor:

http://ksoze.deny.de/ccbill_exp.html

Their scripts are lame.

lol... I didnt say hacked... But surely this is public knowledge by now?

nevermind · 06-08-2003, 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SGS

lol... I didnt say hacked... But surely this is public knowledge by now?

I assumed that "passwords all over the net" meant hacked. Your post seemed to infer that CCBill might be better on this issue than Globill.

I was just pointing out that Both Globill and CCBill have this problem.

SGS · 06-08-2003, 07:18 AM

I just think that it?s a plus point in this business if a processor can at least make an attempt to keep complete username and password lists from being downloaded from sites in seconds and shared all over the place. It?s only the fact that most GloBill sites are so small and run by newbees and hobbyists that this isn?t already a thread of its own. It?s only a matter of time I am sure?

nevermind · 06-08-2003, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SGS
I just think that it?s a plus point in this business if a processor can at least make an attempt to keep complete username and password lists from being downloaded from sites in seconds and shared all over the place. It?s only the fact that most GloBill sites are so small and run by newbees and hobbyists that this isn?t already a thread of its own. It?s only a matter of time I am sure?

I'm not sure I'm understanding your post but, if you're referring to CCBill, they don't need to download any lists. They can create their own passwords and user names --- no matter how many times the webmaster deletes them.

I agree that Globill has the same problems, but CCBill isn't much better.

And I've seen some Globill threads on other boards regarding this very same topic.

nevermind · 06-08-2003, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by netbilling
Cogitator,

You forgot 1 very, very important name...

Netbilling
--------------------------

charlie6763,

After you see everything Hughes billing has to offer, give us a call to tour our system and services. I promise you will not find a more flexible system or lower rates!

Mitch:

What merchant banks are you using these days?

As you can see from the Hughes statement, a lot of merchant banks seem to be getting out of adult.

I know some people who have used Netbilling that had to switch over and try to find other merchant banks or, go back to third party, because of this problem.

So I'm just trying to get a handle on which banks, if any, are processing adult merchant accounts through Netbilling.

I'm interested in specific names.

gothweb · 06-08-2003, 07:48 AM

At this point in time, I would say CCBill is the biller to go with. Too many of the others are on way too shaky ground (in a variety of ways). If you don't want to go with CCBill, Epoch seems pretty solid too.

NETbilling · 06-09-2003, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nevermind

Mitch:

What merchant banks are you using these days?

As you can see from the Hughes statement, a lot of merchant banks seem to be getting out of adult.

I know some people who have used Netbilling that had to switch over and try to find other merchant banks or, go back to third party, because of this problem.

So I'm just trying to get a handle on which banks, if any, are processing adult merchant accounts through Netbilling.

I'm interested in specific names.

Nevermind,

We have several relationships for merchant account banks. I will not post them on the board but I can tell you that we are setting up new merchants every day. It is EXTREMELY rare that one of our merchants has to go back to theird party processing. Fell free to contac t me directly to discuss.

Toll Free within the US: (888)357-8166
Outside the US: (661)252-2456
ICQ#117496436

Mitch

playa · 06-09-2003, 06:17 PM

humboldt bank canceled my account and i'm still waiting for my entire balance they have held since feb.

Kimmykim · 06-09-2003, 06:32 PM

Who is Hughes Billing?

Oh and on another note... when people don't have the htpass set up properly on their site, it doesn't make fuck all difference who their processor is.

nevermind · 06-09-2003, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by playa
humboldt bank canceled my account and i'm still waiting for my entire balance they have held since feb.

Which is why I was asking for more info on banks that are still processing adult merchant accounts.

I wonder why Mitch won't post the names? Oh well ...

Kimmykim · 06-09-2003, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nevermind

Which is why I was asking for more info on banks that are still processing adult merchant accounts.

I wonder why Mitch won't post the names? Oh well ...

I would assume it's because a. it doesn't belong on this board in detail and b. different clients would qualify for different banks based on risk profile, credit history and monthly volume.

Personally I'd be rather freaked out if Mitch did start posting bank names on a public message board.

p00p · 06-09-2003, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
Who is Hughes Billing?

Oh and on another note... when people don't have the htpass set up properly on their site, it doesn't make fuck all difference who their processor is.

https://www5.atsbank.com/cgi-bin/ats...00&26931+ronis

Click the 'join now' button and it goes to atsbank.com
Whoever they are......

02-11-2003, 06:57 PM	#4
ZoiNk Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 2,370	I never heard of them and don't know anyone that uses them. Try www.acpay.com or www.glo-bill.com if you want known billing companies. I would personally go with acpay over glo-bill. If you are a US resident and are willing to pay the $750 fee, go with Epoch. ZoiNk __________________ "People can have the Model T in any color - so long as it's black." - Henry Ford

02-11-2003, 07:18 PM	#5
NetRodent Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: In the walls of your house. Posts: 3,985	I've never heard of them and they appear to have only been around since August, 2002. They also appear to have a very messy signup page. __________________ "Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." --H.L. Mencken

02-11-2003, 07:19 PM	#6
Cogitator Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 672	ccbill, globill, epoch, jettis, websitebilling. That's all I gotta say... __________________ - this space intentionally left blank -

06-08-2003, 05:51 AM	#12
steffie Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Mountains, far far away Posts: 2,422	Didn't they loose their Merchant Account a while back? I read something like that on another board. So uhm, if you didn't go with Hughes Billing so far you might really want to look into that __________________ Partying since '96 and not going anywhere Anna's Dorm

06-08-2003, 06:20 AM	#13
SGS Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mallorca - Nottingham Posts: 5,176	Go with CCBill if you want a serious processor to make money with or GloBill if you are an amateur or a hobbyist and want to see all of your passwords all over the Internet. __________________ See sig...

02-11-2003, 05:19 PM	#1
Jake Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: CO, US Posts: 3,056	Hughes Billing I'm finally getting around to setting up billing for my fiance's amateur site and I'm looking into Hughes Billing. Does anyone have any experience with these guys?

02-11-2003, 05:43 PM	#2
AOLGuy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 1,261	not a clue... try: ProAdult AVS is a much easier sell, and their premium Quantum program is excellent.

02-11-2003, 06:53 PM	#3
Jake Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: CO, US Posts: 3,056	C'mon guys a little help here? They seem to have their shit together but I'd really like to hear from some people who use them?

02-11-2003, 07:30 PM	#7
p00p Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: CanaDUH Posts: 5,125	Pssst...Charlie, it is the middle finger.

02-11-2003, 09:10 PM	#9
angelsofporn Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CA Posts: 3,218	hughes billing took the deed to my house and made me suck dick on the streets of hongkong for 3 months to get it back

02-11-2003, 10:24 PM	#11
NETbilling Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 8,584	Cogitator, You forgot 1 very, very important name... Netbilling -------------------------- charlie6763, After you see everything Hughes billing has to offer, give us a call to tour our system and services. I promise you will not find a more flexible system or lower rates! Toll Free within the US: (888)357-8166 Outside the US: (661)252-2456 Thank you, Mitch Farber Netbilling.com __________________ Mitch Farber CEO - NETbilling, Inc. Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456 Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

06-08-2003, 06:54 AM	#14
nevermind Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 276	Recently posted on another board: To all of our clients : Effective May 15 2003, Humboldt Bank the merchant bank for Hughes Billing assigned all of it's rights to First National Bank of Nevada (FNBA) of Reno. At this time, Hughes Billing was contacted and told that FNBA would no longer represent Hughes Billing due to the high volume of processing. Hughes Billing was given seven business days to find another merchant partner. Reacting immediately, Hughes Billing was accepted by another processing bank to take the place of Humboldt Bank. At this time, it appeared there would be no processing interruptions to any of the Hughes Billing clients. Working with us, the new processing bank for Hughes Billing setup a temporary interim account to continue processing all sales until the High Risk account was established so none of our clients would experience any interruptions in service. Hughes Billing did not notify any of it's clients because there was the understanding that everything was under control and functioning smoothly. There was NO CAUSE for any concern. However, a week after the new interim account was processing, auditors from the new merchant bank informed us this temporary interim account was not acceptable. So as of today, Hughes Billing is unable to process any transactions other than electronic checks. If you don't have electronic checks please write and we will get you set up ASAP We deeply regret this situation. After talking with the new bank this morning, this problem will not be resolved for another week. We understand the difficulty this situation has caused.We are working very hard to get everyone up and running ASAP. This does not effect your June 10th payout. It will go out on time as expected. All recurring will be ran once we start processing again so only new sales are affected. Hughes Billing Legal Department Last edited by nevermind; 06-08-2003 at 06:59 AM..

06-08-2003, 07:18 AM	#18
SGS Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mallorca - Nottingham Posts: 5,176	I just think that it?s a plus point in this business if a processor can at least make an attempt to keep complete username and password lists from being downloaded from sites in seconds and shared all over the place. It?s only the fact that most GloBill sites are so small and run by newbees and hobbyists that this isn?t already a thread of its own. It?s only a matter of time I am sure? __________________ See sig...

06-08-2003, 07:48 AM	#21
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	At this point in time, I would say CCBill is the biller to go with. Too many of the others are on way too shaky ground (in a variety of ways). If you don't want to go with CCBill, Epoch seems pretty solid too. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

06-09-2003, 06:17 PM	#23
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	humboldt bank canceled my account and i'm still waiting for my entire balance they have held since feb.

06-09-2003, 06:32 PM	#24
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Who is Hughes Billing? Oh and on another note... when people don't have the htpass set up properly on their site, it doesn't make fuck all difference who their processor is.