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				Would someone please give a break down of the AVS game
			 
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		 Step 1 - build AVS 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	Step 2 - Build gallery linking to AVS Step 3 - submit Step 4 - bling bling!  | 
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		 1: Build TGP 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	2: ??? 3: Profit!  | 
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		 I would suggest that you go to www.megamasters.com . 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
	There are allot of experienced avs aces in there.... Besically that place is all about the avs game  | 
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			 we'll miss you our friend. RIP 
			
		
			
			
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		 i miss my gf 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 And when you say AVS site, do you mean like a full blown "gold" AVS or like a "premium" AVS?  | 
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			 we'll miss you our friend. RIP 
			
		
			
			
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 No reason for the model mentioned above to be premium at all. Premium tends to work very well with regular AVS sites as feeders to it rather than just TGP traffic.  | 
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		 i started with avs before i moved to paysites. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	but like is being said, the buck stops at you... shit won't do.  | 
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 And THANK YOU Gutterboy, that helped A LOT.  | 
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		 http://www.avsstartupguide.com/adult...tutorials.html 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	That might give you some hints... And be sure to build a HUB for all of your sites.  | 
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		 Could someone explain HUB precisely, I haven't build so far. I like my traffic to go direct to what I am promoting. How can be HUB used to increase my sales? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			 Now with more Jayne 
			
		
			
				
			
			
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		 think of a hub as a second chance with the surfer.  No matter how good you sell there are going to be surfers who aren't going to be interested in clicking on your banners and text links to sponsors.  So, have a link somewhere like 'want something else?' or 'more great sites like this' and filter off some of those people.  Then they are entered into your hub where all the sites are yours. If they are going to buy from there you get the credit. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 No money in AVS....get out to many newbies 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 My formula would go like this: 1. Build 10 AVS sites 2. Build filter for them 3. Build gallery linking to the filter 4. Repeat 
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		 Check the sig. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	PROAdult is good for basic AVS sales and their Quantum program has retained 70%+ each month for me. They kick in great extras so it's easy to keep the surfer signed up. It also isn't played out, so selling it isn't that hard.  | 
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 I should have saved it. I sure have a lot of "should haves" lately, don't I?  | 
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		 My 2 cents about AVS. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	1) You need a minimum amount of content to get started. 2) You can promise the surfer a lot more than yuo have on your site(s) 3) No special programming required. 4) A lot cheaper to host than galleries or TGPīs 5) You donīt need the $750 Visa fee. 6) Very good conversion 7) Very good retention 8) You can make your own front-end tour anyway you want it. 9) You keep the member in your members area = Upsell (to customers who allready used a credit card to pay for porn) Ignoring AVS is bad business decision. If you want to make AVS sites (bondage) please contact me. See sig. I run an AVS called BondagePASS.com and use Ibill and CCbill. YOu can get 60% recurring and retention is very good..  | 
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