the only thing that matters is whats on paper at the end of the day. Persoanlly I think anyone and everyone who has bought the content in question should be refunded immediately

ummm isn't that like a lot of the girl's PERSONAL info you are posting online.

Such as her drivers license #, address, full real name etc?

Why?

Anyone got one of those translating services? I'd really like to see this post in English.

Joe told me that he would issue licenses from himself to anyone who purchased the content from Sobe. I suggest those of you who have purchased from Sobe should contact him. It's just a good idea.

If SoBeGirl says the videos are cool,
that's good enough for me :thumbsup

Why so many doubters?

Thanx Fletchxxx and Lady M Once again SOBE show something in your company name . Here is my cover of the US 2257 form. This is page 1 of 6 pages, each that get signed by models. I dont think you have this for any of MY scenes youre selling.http://www.amacontent.com/pics/2257.jpg

Wasn't giving you shit, I just think model info should be super private unless you buy the content etc... (especially on this board) hahaha

:thumbsup

Yes I will issue licenses to anyone who bought content on or before 4 June 03. I will not after that date.
Thanx Lady Mischief - Jacy Content

Yes Fletch, i posted wrong url. Thanx again. I know you werent being a shit

I meant
Thanx Lady Mischief JACT CONTENT

I dont tipe wel wen im pised

prostock im only going to respond to one of your coments cause frankly im tooooo fucking tired!!!
Its bloody 5:20 Am here :(

You dont understand why ama is going after the webmasters?
Well to me the answer is simple.
He is trying to protect hes business and current client base, its walking a fine line ill give you that.
BUT if you had spend 2-3K at amacontent would you still hate him for trying to protect your ass?

Sobe has done a SHITTY thing here how ever you choose to look at it.......
Not by doing a bulk discount, but by discounting non-exclusive resell licensed content which the founder of amacontent bases hes living on and thereby setting him probably back 6 months.
Even IF Sobe had all the paper work and the legal isues in order with ama and there were set no limit regarding prices it called fucking over a competitor bigtime "but legaly".

Prostock, for once I agree with you. Joe has already admitted that I have rights to sell the content he sold me. But I don't need his admission or permission or blessing becuase I have the paperwork.

SoBEGirl bought it, paid for it and Joe gladly accepted the money and then sold me more for SoBeGirl to resell. You are correct, the only issue here is how much I can sell it for.

And to answer that question is that I can sell it for whatever I want because it is mine. I own it becuase I paid to own it. I don't have resell rights, I have sell rights.

I own a copy of the content just as Joe does. No webmasters should be scared by this guys tatctics to hold up prices and fuck every webmaster in the ass. I am selling content packages that are affordable for everyone. Let the market be free. Let Content providers compete on service quality and delivery.

Sobe understood. :1orglaugh

Wow....

As someone who is getting into the content business, my legal team would shoot me if I pulled half this shit...

Sobe, he doesn't want to fuck the fools who bought content from you up the ass. He wants to fuck YOU up the ass. Unfortunatley there would be collateral damage to these webmasters, which serves them right for doing business with you. You being a liar, a con, a thief, an uneducated child with zero business sense. I saw this in the making many moons ago, when you were run off Oprano for doing your spamming con act there.

By you saying he wants to fuck webmasters up the ass goes to prove you are still spinning tall tales to try and make yourself look the better man. YOU are the one fucking webmasters up the ass. You have been for a loooong time.

I think you are lucky it is Joe you pissed off, and not someone else with a grudge, a short fuse, and money...or you would be selling trading your food stamps for crack right now instead of continuing your con on the boards. :2 cents:

Prostock, for once I agree with you. Joe has already admitted that I have rights to sell the content he sold me. But I don't need his admission or permission or blessing becuase I have the paperwork.

LETS SEE THE PAPERWORK... YOU HAVE NONE

Lets see the US 2257 paperwork Federal law requires you to jhave. YOU have NONE I have it

If you buy my scenes from SOBE now i will prosecute

If you already bought, i will issue you a new license.
Show us this in your company name SOBE SHIThttp://www.amacontent.com/pics/2257.jpg

Good try Shmoe but I have all the paperwork in order. YOu can see how diligent I was about making sure that I got all the proper paperwork when you look at those images I pasted into the top of this thread. I even reject some vids he send me becuase they did not have documentation. YOu can see the set numbers on the paper work of those shoots. If you cannot see the set numbers send me an ICQ and I will tell them to you. Then go to Joe's site and see that he is selling them there under the same shoot numbers. Ask him if he has ID for these sets becuase he sure as did not have them when he was trying to sell them to SoBeGirl...

Any webmaster that buys content from SoBeGirl from now on will get both model relase forms for all content bought and Photo IDS.

this is getting uglier by the day .....

If I were you guys, I'd stop this public bs before you both post your way out of business. Webmasters do NOT like any thoughts of illegality when it comes to content. The facts of this ordeal will be jumbled and forgotten but you could easily find wm's loosing trust in your companies simply from the inability to act professionally.

just MHO

well I duno who's right or who's or who's wrong in this matter.. I personally don't care...

but the US 2257 seems to keep comming up... well it is my understanding that , although it's nice to have this as a webmaster.. it's not required by law for the webmaster (or resalers for that matter) to have himself.. right? only the person that shoots the content has to have the legal proof of age and consent forms.. am I right? I mean I go into gas stations every day and see playboy and hustler mags sitting behind the counters.. well I really don't think the store owner has copies of this paper work.. so what's the diffrence?

Hey Schmoe only thing you posted was some hand written reciepts and printed reciepts saying purchased scenes for website and promo use. I dont see anything about resale .

You are the ultimate COCK SUCKER LOSER. Fucking over your freinds and buisness peers.

Once again i will state if my scenes are bought from SOBE and I find them I will prosecute . I will prsecute and you will have to come to NYC to defend yourself. Win or Lose. You want that content.. I will sell it to you. ALL Paperwork in my corporate name. MY scenes.

Say whatever you want SOBE. At least ALL and I mean ALL the paperwork is in MY company name.

OH and btw. My license has been revoked because of SOBEs actions in giving the Hungarian Videos away for free. So now I cant even use the Hungarian videos. Anyone who has them must take them down from thier sites. Im getting a legal notification to the fact that I will pass on as proof.
NICE JOB SOBE> :BangBang:

Ok, you're both acting like fucking cockholsters now. Take a deep breath and get it the fuck off the boards. Guys. Wake up.

I will make it up somehow to the people that have it. I know SOBE will just disreguard any ICQs or emails to the fact as usual.

You are not suing anyone. I have all the paperwork, I have all the contracts and receipts, you are blowing hot air up everyone's butts.

Fact is when you sold SoBeGirl over ten thousand dollars of content fto be sold by SoBeGirl, which you already admitted to doing, you made a business deal with me that at that time gave you what you wanted. SOME CASH.

Now you are backing out of that deal. YOu cannot do that. A deal is a deal I bought the content from you, you gave me all the legal docs and rights to sell.

SoBeGirl Owns all the content that is for sale on http://www.************* and nobody can say otherwise.

Amacontent, you need to stop posting for real and get your lawyer to start taking care of this stuff.

You're not doing yourself any good posting anymore.

Stop posting, stop signing things dipshit sends you in the hopes he'll follow through, stop everything, get your lawyer on it and let him handle it.

Yes Fat pad youre right. Thanx. Thanx also to LAdy Mischief.
No more posts. I will have legal do it. I Promise.

say what...? OR does JACT has some involvement.

:)

Please continue.

In business you need to get it EVERYTHING in writing everytime. This whole thing comes around because neither of these guys got it in writing what the deal was for. Should either of them be trusted to run a hot dog stall outside a junior league baseball stadium?

Webmasters who do not insist on getting 2257 documents and a license from a content provider, you could be dealing with people of this level of competence.

Joe do not come back and tell me you have all the 2257 documents. You quite clearly sold the videos to Eric, a known reseller, without giving himn the 2257 documents and a properly worded contract and only started to complain after he had been selling this content for a while.

Eric you bought the content without these things, you are both fools and hopefully best out of the PORN BUSINESS.

The one thing i have learned from all this, never buy content from sobegirl.

Pretty standard resale license (for the ones that asked earlier in this thread).
Special agreements can be added of cause.
Ok im off to bed :warning

Resale license for the WWW!
This License Agreement is made effective as of _______between COMPANY and

__________________________________________________ ____________________
(Licensee name)
__________________________________________________ ____________________
(License address)

In the agreement, the party who is granting the right to use the licensed property will be referred to as ("Licensor"), the party who is receiving the right to use the licensed property will be referred to as ("Licensee"), and the selling party, COMPANY will be refer to as Owner. The parties agree as follows:

The following title names shall be referred to as ("Product") in this agreement, and are all of the products covered with this agreement. The Licensor agrees to license the following Titles to the Licensee.




[1] Grant of License. Licensor owns and distributes the product named above. In accordance with this agreement, Licensor grants Licensee a non-exclusive website license to distribute Product. The Licensee understands distribution of the product is defined as sales to customers and webmaster clients, with no restrictions. Licensor retains title and ownership of the product. Licensee becomes the custodian of records upon purchase of the product and is solely responsible as such for all future sales and use of the product. It is understood, not withstanding any other provisions of this agreement, Licensor has the unequivocal right to obtain timely injunctive relief to protect the proprietary rights of Licensor.

[2] Revocation of License. Licensor may revoke Licensee's license in the event that violates one or more of the provisions of this Agreement, requests a refund of the license fee from Broker, or if the license payment is deemed not valid. If Licensee declares bankruptcy, the Agreement is automatically revoked. Involuntary revocation of the license does not grant Licensee any refund of payment made.

[3] Modifications. Any modifications not specially listed in this document are not granted without express written permission of Licensor.

[4] Transfer of Rights. This agreement shall be binding on any successors of the parties. Licensee does not have the right to assign it's interests in this agreement to any other party, unless the prior written consent of Licensor is obtained and an administration fee (to be determined at the time of approval and transfer) is paid.

[6] Entire Agreement. This agreement contains the entire agreement of the parties and there are no other promises or conditions in any other agreement whether oral or written. This agreement supersedes any prior written or oral agreements between the parties. This agreement requires that Licensee return two (2) copies of the signature page to Licensor in order for this agreement to be binding.

[7] Amendment. This agreement may be modified or amended by Licensor and the amendment will be sent in writing to the Licensee.

[8] Severability. If any provision of this agreement shall be held invalid or unenforceable for any reason, the remaining provisions shall continue to be valid and enforceable. If a court finds that any provision of this agreement is invalid or unenforceable, but that by limiting such provision it would become valid or enforceable, then such provision shall be deemed to be written, construed, and enforced as so limited.

[9] Wavier of Contractual Right. The failure of either party to enforce any provision of this agreement shall not be construed as a waiver or limitation of that party's right to subsequently enforce and compel strict compliance with every provision of this agreement.

[10] Applicable Law. This agreement shall be governed by the laws of the State of New Jersey, USA. Licensee holds COMPANY harmless for any legal issues relating to the distribution of the material as it relates to the community standards and adult entertainment laws as set forth in the city/county, state or country of licensee and their websites. COMPANY does not warrant this material to be acceptable in your community, and Licensee has assumed full responsibility for determining what Product are suitable for distribution. COMPANY warrants the Product are fully copyrighted, and this license warrants these Product free of intellectual property violations only. These Product are in compliance with the 18 U.S.C.2257 US federal law.

I (print your name) _________________________ am of legal age to purchase adult content and I am not a member of any law enforcement group or agency using this as an agenda of entrapment. I further state that I am lawfully able to purchase adult
material from within the community which I reside and I am not in violation of any local laws including postal laws for the community in which I reside.

I am of legal age to purchase adult material. I am (your age) ______________ years old.

Licensor: COMPANY
By:
___________________________________________

____________________________________________
Date

Licensee:
By:
___________________________________________

___________________________________________
Date


___________________________________________
Agent COMPANY

___________________________________________
Date



License
COMPANY

I suggest you take it to Judge Judy:

http://www.judgejudy.com/

Me too!

:)

The one thing I have learned is never to buy content from AMA. He will sell it to you and then decide he does not want to sell it to you. I have all the docs, permission to sell, model release forms and photo IDs. I don't need JOes blessing.

crockett
Are you saying that you will trust people like this to hold 2257 documents for you? Trust me Playboy and Penthouse have their documentation together a bit more than this.

FATPad
The first thing an attorney would say is shut up, say nothing this is now my job. Neither of these guys have lawyers or are likely to get them. Lawyers don't work for $5 an hour. :1orglaugh

Groove
Good idea, this is at that level.

So then why do we keep backtracking here? Why do I keep seeing people saying that SoBegirl does not have the right to sell? SoBeGirl does, has the docs to prove it which were posted here and the model rel forms and photo IDs. I have no problems. The only problem I have is calming people down that get upset very eaisly.

The situation is clear. MOre than a year ago JOe made a business deal which at the time he thought was a good one. Sell SoBeGirl content so that he could get more cash and shoot more. Today he is not so happy he did that but there is nothing he can do about it but lie and slander SoBeGirl which he will pay for in the end.

Nobody needs to worry. If you don't want to buy from SoBeGirl anymore that is to bad. I will miss you. Maybe in the furture then.

YES! SoBeGirl is the victim. Stop picking on SoBeGirl!

It's obvious that Judge Judy will rule in SoBe's favor :thumbsup

groove can you contact me on ICq please 97934302

Only if you make your speech.

I will I will I promise just contact me.

Make the speech first and make it a good one!

We all know your promises mean nothing :Graucho