Once again for those of you that are not paying attention..

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Joe, you need to stop posting and just get your lawyer on it.

There were no agreements, verbal agreements, contracts signed 4 days ago...etc. It's turning into a giant mess.

Get your lawyer, see what he says, and then let him handle it from now on.

Erik:

Once again.. this does not state *anything* about resale rights. Sure, you and Joe may "know" stuff, (those implied" and never stated terms), but come crunch time in a suit to support some webmaster, is this what you are going to produce as "evidence"??

Sorry man, it just does not stand up. If this is the general standard of documentation from "content providers", God help us.

WEbby you have no idea what you are talking about. YOu are entitled to your opinion but it is wrong. Sorry, you are wrong... Hard to accept I know but you are wrong...I am sure you don't like hearing it but you are wrong..sorry.

Hmm, for the raw unedited copies of the same stuff SoBe is selling including some non-$5 scenes I believe www.screwcontent.com has it, with legal licenses, no copyrighted music, and full knowledge and permission from AMA. Call and ask for Steve for deals, ignore pricing on the site.

Figured I'd toss that in there since some of you seem to be (for some reason, at this point) contemplating buying from him. :winkwink:

- Titus

Erik, what is the answer on the music?

Webby that bogus contract is void as he did not pay the money agreed on. That is the only scribble of a contract he has. There is nothing else. And look at that , its dated June 5th. Ask him to produce the type of contract I gave Scotty at Screw content. He cant because there isnt any.
He is not even living up to that bogus contract he has now, So now it is void. I will have legal issues with anyone from this day on that buys my content from SOBE.
He keeps mentioning for me to be a partner with him even today.

Hey Webby, ICQ me so we can chat

Hi DRavyk,

AS I stated previously sobegirl does not have copywrite music in any videos. Being that it is "amateur style" you may find a radio or TV on once in a while but if you look at precident cases such as the one with Westland sites the kind of audio in SobEGirl is not illegal.

But as always, If any customer of mine finds a set that they dont like for one reason or another simply let me know and I will give you another one of your choice. If you want your money back for that set I will refund your money.

AFter 3 years of selling content I know of only one guy that told me he wanted to chage out a set becuase of something that botherd him.


So SoBeGirl content does not have any copywrite musit end of story. Period. Another rumor started and stopped right here with the facts....

I would like to thank those of you that supported SoBeGirl during this failed libel and slander attempt by one of my corrupt competitors. I say that we should all compete on service , quality and price. This is what is best for webmasters in the end. And this is what SoBeGirl is all about.

YADA YAD YADA
fucking soap opera replies Erik

good luck! :1orglaugh

Grow a nutsack and take that fucker down. Don't be such a wuss. Why you would 'settle' and allow that assbandit to continue lying, decieving, and ripping off people is beyond me.

Listen up Ama and Sobe.

Stop playing games. Which specific sets that SoBe sells, is at issue here ? Be SPECIFIC.

Okay lets go hypothetical...

Sobe...Say you just signed this contract on the 4th giving you 100% rights to do what the fuck you want with ama's content...

Before the 4th...What legal contracts did you have to sell the content? Anything you sold before the 4th would not be able to use the contract you got on the 4th.

Jon

Yes, thankyou Jon.. someone does have sense here

Shh...they'll kick me out of GFY if they notice

Jon

I see something like that big block of text and I immediately skip to the pretty pictures.

Yea...pictures help guide me thru GFY as well...Without the pictures I would be helpless...

Post more pictures everyone...Helps people like us!

Jon

Reading sucks!

This is how they have to do word documents if they want me to read them:

http://askbuff.com/pics/how.jpg

SoBeGirl Video:

Na.. I don't mind being wrong - I ain't into dick size ego trips :glugglug Also I am not taking sides in some trashing exercise. It is also not a matter of "my opinion" - that don't matter a shit. What matters are the facts.

What I am saying is... there is more than room for concern when you "appear" to be selling content with no written terms of resale. You may have this, but you have said you don't then use some scrap fax to "apparently" say there is...

Hell.. I've been buying and selling content for about 30+ years and I get this bad aura when you say things which often seem to be just avoidance.

I got nothing against you or SobeGirl (in fact the opposite!) and I have no axe to grind. This is just common sense "covering your ass" stuff.

Erik,

I think that you need to give an explanation to everybody that
has purchased your 200 video deal.
I just spoke to Joe and he was telling me that anybody that has bought sets from #100 and up which are listed on your site btw, needs to contact him since those are his.

I'm guessing that they would want their money back.

:1orglaugh Thats funny.. didn't know that.

Yeah I guess it pretty much destroys that analogy :)

hes hiding again under his rock

SoBe, you won an award! You have been voted by your peers to be GFY's most enethical member. Please visit the awards thread (see sig) now and make your acceptance speech!

:GFYBand

Unethical for what? SoBeGirl bought content for resale, has the docs to prove it, paid for it. AMA was so happy he sold me more. I sold more of it. I own it now.

I paid for it. I have contracts, reciepts and and everthing I need to resell it. Hell, maybe I will sell all my sets for 2.50 cents now. What do you think?

Start antoher new trend. Joe keeps on ranting and raving. The content is mine. I bought it and paid for it. To own it. I own it. At this point it is as much mine as it is his.I can do as I wish with it .I paid for it. I have resale rights. He can cry all he wants. I have my supporters. I am in the clear on this. SoBeGirl has always been offering webmasters great deals.

It comes to no ones surprise that I sell content inexpensivly. Mr Joe does not have shit and I have all the documents I need. Face it. This case is closed and I can sell any content on SoBeGirl for any price i want.

Webmasters hit me up if you want a really great deal on some legal content. I will even give you model release forms and photo IDs now.

SOBE selling illegally. Webmasters will be drawn into court from this day foward if they buy my scenes for under $40 unless you make a deeal with me.. Ask SOBE to show proof of resale rights webmasters. He cant show it. He can only provide a piece of scribble that he hasnt even made good on that. And that is dated June 5th.. So webmasters do not buy my scenes from him. Buy his scenes all you want. My scenes are # S100 and above in the straight content section. Buy his scenes below S100 all fucking day.
Anyone who doesnt have my license for those scenes will deal with repercussions.
He does not have right to sell at those prices. .

SOBE your fucking time will come for ripping me off. I swear by all that is Holy.

Hot Sale: All SoBeGirl sets now $2.50 cents...

210 to choose from.

FTP access is free.


No webmasters are going to court. You won't sue me because you will loose. I have rights to sell. I have invoices, I have posts you have made here that say I can sell. I own the content. I can sell it for whatever I want. And today that price is $2.50 cents.

I don't need a piece of paper that says I have re-sale rights. I have sale rights. I bought the content. I own it. I sell it. I don't resell it.

Take your chances webmasters. He does not own that content. Look at the releases. They all have MY company name on it. I produced it, not him. I have paperwork signed by models on my company 2257s, does he. I dont think so.
Ask him for proof of rersale rights. He doesnt have that either. My content, my paperwork, my scenes

SoBeGirl does not like documentation.

Documentation is bad :1orglaugh

When you are selling someone else's product even if you bought it, it is called reselling.

Am I invisible?

Sobe is ignoring my posts :-(

I don't feel the love...

Oh and 150 assholes!

Jon

wow:1orglaugh :1orglaugh



when good content goes bad

so only sets 100 and above are questionable?

all others are legit?

curious here myself.

:helpme

See sig:

Hard to believe you even posted that !
unless you have a very clear exclusive license you dont own shit my friend!

Either way you need some sort of paper as ama shot the content and not you.
The content is signed over to Ama by the models etc etc
Either way if you guys challange each other in any form of court Ama will have the right to revoke the "license" unless its exclusive.

How you can even think of doing such a bulk discount when you know it will besically ruin someones business is also beyound me.
Especially when that guy is helping you with providing you with content.
Not only have you ruined your relationship with him, but also with a TON of potential partners and shooters out there....
The Provider and photographic world is small and the words get round real fast as im sure you know.....
In short (i dont get it).....

Writing a speech I hope :Graucho

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Thanx Loch. He claims to have all his paperwork, let him show you paperwork for any of the scenes above S100 in his company name like the one i am showing here. Let him show anyone, anything that I gave him permission to resell besides that bogus scribble he showeed earlier.
You just crossed the line SOBE bigtime. BTW, you have no legal US 2257s.. I retain all those.
http://www.amacontent.com/pics/2257.jpg

So many of you are over looking so much here
1 AMA has said many times in the past sobe has the right to sell it , but not at that price and it was never wrote down ,

2 ama now you want to try and be a shit head to all the webmasters and tell them if they get from this point on you wil be fucked , we one that will never happen , next man you have stated a ton of times this isnt over reselling rights it is over pricing , again why you want to look like a DICK to the webmasters ?

3 i really think you to just need to mark this up as a no win deal and let it be done and over with you both are make your SELF LOOK LIKE A COUPLE OF DICK HEADS ,

4 eric will just keep droping the price to piss you off we all see that and really i will just about bet you , you will lose you go to court ,

5 people talk on the papers and IDS well you guys need to look better at the 2257 , in all that is AMA place to have it eric if i am right witch i do belive so really doesnt have to have , yes better if so he does but doesnt have to ,

and again lets go to the part AMA has said many time he got it from me and yes to resell it he has that right not tho at that price as we talked about ! not wrote it planly out ! that was a big NO NO on your part AMA

6 I think this now will have more lead way for eric to go after you AMA
people so how and what way , easy ,,,,, you are going around talkng alot of shti , saying he stoled it and now no rights when the fact you said he has it all the time , and doing alot of stuff that way ,. and to me i think as much as i hate to say it can make a CASE against you ,
i know a webmaster that just got out of a legal matter SORRY i cannt tell who over the court ruling , and i was kind had dealing over it to ,
but one webmaster was going after him very jelus and telling boards the guy was a cp pusher and child raper and tons of other shit , well it went to count and that guy going around telling that to people in email and the webmaster board lost and lost big ,,,,,
so man you two need to take you heads out of your assssss

SOBE if i was you i would say fuck it and drop his content what the fuck man it is way over used , joe you need to wake up learn to write better papers on your deals and forget all about him

:2 cents:

Come to think of it, I've just checked your site, Sobe, and there is not Title 18 information ANYWHERE in sight, as well as a Custodial Contact. Any of his customers care to enlighten me as to what he's giving you folks for custodial information?