Why can't I convert? It's my first real gallery. Any advice? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

lil2rich4u2 · 06-07-2003, 12:26 PM

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Originally posted by DarkJedi

are they real ?

do a poll, i guarentee you alot of people are having great results with them.

And im not even spamming, no link and no ref link.

FTC has been kicking ass for me for about 3 months or so, something like that.

yes they are real.

NBDesign · 06-07-2003, 12:26 PM

NBDesign · 06-07-2003, 12:27 PM

ooops... too slow

lil2rich4u2 · 06-07-2003, 12:27 PM

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Originally posted by NBDesign

1.00 per sign up, 135 sign ups and only 108.00 in the bank... What happened to the rest of the $$$$?

Is this something I should expect?

LOL!!!

good catch.

Actually i use revsharehosting for this sponsor. It is free hosting but you give up a percentage of the signup.

This particular sponser pays $0.80 per signup to me, and $0.20 to the host.

No you shouldnt expect that.

NBDesign · 06-07-2003, 12:32 PM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

LOL!!!

good catch.

Actually i use revsharehosting for this sponsor. It is free hosting but you give up a percentage of the signup.

This particular sponser pays $0.80 per signup to me, and $0.20 to the host.

No you shouldnt expect that.

That would make sense....

lil2rich4u2 · 06-07-2003, 12:35 PM

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Originally posted by NBDesign

That would make sense....

hit me up on ICQl.

175171926

Tipsy · 06-07-2003, 12:35 PM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

No you shouldnt expect that.

He's right. Most people submitting galleries struggle to make even close to that.

misty3k · 06-07-2003, 12:35 PM

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Originally posted by newbiewebmistress
This gallery is listed on Choker's site, so in the rules it says we can change the text/link or sponsor we are promoting, but not the content or the general layout.

Oh! gotcha.

lil2rich4u2 · 06-07-2003, 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by Tipsy

He's right. Most people submitting galleries struggle to make even close to that.

I never said i get my numbers from galleries, lol

UnseenWorld · 06-07-2003, 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by newbiewebmistress
This gallery is listed on Choker's site, so in the rules it says we can change the text/link or sponsor we are promoting, but not the content or the general layout.

I wasn't suggesting you change THAT one after it's posted. My advice was for NEXT time.

DarkJedi · 06-07-2003, 12:59 PM

Ok, i take my words back. you seem to be doing pretty good with FTC. Damn CE Mags convert at 1:76 for me

Post your FTC wm ref link i'll signup under you.

bobv50 · 06-07-2003, 01:34 PM

This is the link for batchthumbs I don't think anyone posted it..

www.harmware.com

I have been reading this thread..and I guess I might as well put in my

Free email sign-ups are good for catching your super cheap surfers..If you place the links just right on your galleries or web pages they can be a good way to cover bandwith/hosting'/advertising cost.. If you place your advertisements just right and Let your surfers know in order for them to get the "Good Shit" they are gonna have to pull out the credit card...will "Push" the cheap skates to your "Free E-mail Sponsors".

Getting pay-site sign-ups/upsells "should" be your ultimate goal. If your galleries or sites don't at least cover your monthly expenses it's time to re-group.

bobv

newbiewebmistress · 06-07-2003, 02:50 PM

I'm back. I was trying to make a new gallery. Keeping simplicity in mind, and based on the gallery that I have already, does this one seem to be a little better or am I far worse off than I started?

http://www.phonetease.com/practicegallery.html

Of course, I'd replace the content and the banner, but what about the style. Is this what you mean by break the surfers attention from the pics? I would do a lot more to it, based on the advice that I got here, but am I headed in the right direction?

Thanks Bobv for the link and others who posted.

High Quality · 06-07-2003, 02:57 PM

Its not converting because it is SUMMER. Sorry.

eroswebmaster · 06-07-2003, 03:01 PM

Okay on your 2nd attempt.

I applaud your attempting to do something different than what everyone else is doing in respect to your layout etc.

However most tgps don't like galleries that scroll horizontally.

Also a good number of thumbs to start with is about 15.

So I try to build all my templates using 13-18 pics depending upon the layout of the gallery.

Just look at the templates for the gallery in my sig for an example.

The first template is the one for TGP's to use who want a "clean" gallery. The 2nd and 3rd one are more aggressive versions of the same template.

Your template doesn't have to be as "graphical" as this...and what's amazing is our "clean" version is actually doing better than the aggressive versions.

Either way, the template is doing 1-2% ctrs clean with more actual sales, and 4-6% ctrs for the aggressive version.

pimplink · 06-07-2003, 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by High Quality
Its not converting because it is SUMMER. Sorry.

When I was pushing TEEN, summers would fucking suck. Now that I push other niches, its Summer Slowdown proof.

newbiewebmistress · 06-07-2003, 03:18 PM

Thanks Eros,

Hey, I'm not sure what to do about the sidescrolling, on my computer it doesn't scroll. I'm guessing, I have to reduce the width of the pictures. Not sure, though. Critiques are always welcome.

Looking at your galleries shows me how changing certain aspects of a template, gives it an even cooler look.
I think I'll try making a gallery on Batch Thumbs.

hey, Hi Quality, what do you mean by it's summer? Is the business slower in the summer? Do tell.

jimmy3way · 06-07-2003, 03:23 PM

Wait, a minute, wait a minute, you actually PAID for that gallery?

Paid money? American money?

Damn I didn't think people were that mean to newbies.

Free advice: www.ynotmasters.com

psyko514 · 06-07-2003, 03:28 PM

number one lesson while designing anything:

design for 800x600 resolution.

you're probably running at 1024x768 like i am right now, so you don't see the side scrolling.

but 40-60% of your surfers will be at 800x600 and the right most 200+ pixels will be cut off.

also, don't use graphics for your text. all the text you have up there can be easily done with style sheets or regular html tags and you won't have to worry about jaggies (the jagged edges on your text)

NBDesign · 06-07-2003, 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by psyko514
also, don't use graphics for your text. all the text you have up there can be easily done with style sheets or regular html tags and you won't have to worry about jaggies (the jagged edges on your text)

Plus, text helps with search engine spiders

psyko514 · 06-07-2003, 03:31 PM

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Originally posted by NBDesign

Plus, text helps with search engine spiders

spiders scare me

GeorgeTH · 06-07-2003, 03:33 PM

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Originally posted by Alex From San Diego
The gallery itself isn't that bad but it is missing a little punch...sort of boring...

Here are three samples that you might want to take a look at.
Template 1

[...]
I hope this helps you with an idea of what works for us...

Who the fuck is going to pay the bandwidth bill for those?
The First gallery must be at least 400k+ (w/o the movies) - many people will fit all images on a gallery and the page itself into that bandwidth!!! Each of your 'thumbnails' (like movie1.jpg) is around 50k alone, and then the sliced header is another 51k - ghee! That'll make you poor and the host rich...

Specially if you're a newbie or advertise a sponsor with a $25 sign-up and in some cases heavy shaving... If you're advertising your own paysite and have member retention of 4-6 months it's a different story!

misty3k · 06-07-2003, 04:11 PM

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Originally posted by pimplink

When I was pushing TEEN, summers would fucking suck. Now that I push other niches, its Summer Slowdown proof.

You know what? That makes a ton of sense! Why look at pics of half nude teen honeys, when all the guys have to do is go to the lake, beach, river, water park, city pool, etc.?

I'm guessing the amateur niche would experience slowdown, as well.

So, pimplink, if it can be told, what niche's do you push for summer? I think I have an idea, but I'd like to hear your ideas!

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06-07-2003, 12:27 PM	#53
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06-07-2003, 01:34 PM	#62
bobv50 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: TEXAS Posts: 260	This is the link for batchthumbs I don't think anyone posted it.. www.harmware.com I have been reading this thread..and I guess I might as well put in my Free email sign-ups are good for catching your super cheap surfers..If you place the links just right on your galleries or web pages they can be a good way to cover bandwith/hosting'/advertising cost.. If you place your advertisements just right and Let your surfers know in order for them to get the "Good Shit" they are gonna have to pull out the credit card...will "Push" the cheap skates to your "Free E-mail Sponsors". Getting pay-site sign-ups/upsells "should" be your ultimate goal. If your galleries or sites don't at least cover your monthly expenses it's time to re-group. bobv __________________ A wise Pimp once said "PUSSY WILL SELL...EVEN WHEN CORN & COTTON WON'T!"

06-07-2003, 02:50 PM	#63
newbiewebmistress Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 162	I'm back. I was trying to make a new gallery. Keeping simplicity in mind, and based on the gallery that I have already, does this one seem to be a little better or am I far worse off than I started? http://www.phonetease.com/practicegallery.html Of course, I'd replace the content and the banner, but what about the style. Is this what you mean by break the surfers attention from the pics? I would do a lot more to it, based on the advice that I got here, but am I headed in the right direction? Thanks Bobv for the link and others who posted. __________________ They pay $1 buck for every free email you give away...it's supposed to convert well on tgp...they say "The reason I haven't made a cent is because I dream too much"

06-07-2003, 02:57 PM	#64
High Quality Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 5,741	Its not converting because it is SUMMER. Sorry. __________________ RecurCash.com - Averaging $38/sale with 60% revshare in the first 4 months alone! Convert your TEEN traffic today @ better than 1:500 guaranteed. ICQ me: 18287590!

06-07-2003, 12:59 PM	#61
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	Ok, i take my words back. you seem to be doing pretty good with FTC. Damn CE Mags convert at 1:76 for me Post your FTC wm ref link i'll signup under you.

06-07-2003, 03:01 PM	#65
eroswebmaster March 1st, 2003 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seat 4 @ Venetian Poker Room Posts: 20,295	Okay on your 2nd attempt. I applaud your attempting to do something different than what everyone else is doing in respect to your layout etc. However most tgps don't like galleries that scroll horizontally. Also a good number of thumbs to start with is about 15. So I try to build all my templates using 13-18 pics depending upon the layout of the gallery. Just look at the templates for the gallery in my sig for an example. The first template is the one for TGP's to use who want a "clean" gallery. The 2nd and 3rd one are more aggressive versions of the same template. Your template doesn't have to be as "graphical" as this...and what's amazing is our "clean" version is actually doing better than the aggressive versions. Either way, the template is doing 1-2% ctrs clean with more actual sales, and 4-6% ctrs for the aggressive version. __________________ For rent - ICQ 127-027-910 Click here for more details Last edited by eroswebmaster; 06-07-2003 at 03:06 PM..

06-07-2003, 03:18 PM	#67
newbiewebmistress Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 162	Thanks Eros, Hey, I'm not sure what to do about the sidescrolling, on my computer it doesn't scroll. I'm guessing, I have to reduce the width of the pictures. Not sure, though. Critiques are always welcome. Looking at your galleries shows me how changing certain aspects of a template, gives it an even cooler look. I think I'll try making a gallery on Batch Thumbs. hey, Hi Quality, what do you mean by it's summer? Is the business slower in the summer? Do tell. __________________ They pay $1 buck for every free email you give away...it's supposed to convert well on tgp...they say "The reason I haven't made a cent is because I dream too much"

06-07-2003, 03:23 PM	#68
jimmy3way Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Top Secret Hideout Posts: 2,508	Wait, a minute, wait a minute, you actually PAID for that gallery? Paid money? American money? Damn I didn't think people were that mean to newbies. Free advice: www.ynotmasters.com __________________ One thing, I forgot this last detail: the Biz Markie will always prevail.

06-07-2003, 03:28 PM	#69
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