The Matrix is NOT an original movie - GoFuckYourself.com

WolfPack · 06-06-2003, 01:57 AM

It is a copy of a movie called "Dark City" which was released in 1998, a year before the Matrix). I found this link with a comparison.

http://galeon.hispavista.com/cineram...ixdarkcity.htm

Mr.Fiction · 06-06-2003, 01:59 AM

Hater.

Corleone · 06-06-2003, 01:59 AM

scandal

Tala · 06-06-2003, 01:59 AM

On-top · 06-06-2003, 02:00 AM

Interesting...but I don't know what it says.

quiet · 06-06-2003, 02:02 AM

and gibson was yapping about the matrix back in 84.

stevecore · 06-06-2003, 02:03 AM

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Originally posted by On-top
Interesting...but I don't know what it says.

proof is in the pictures.

RedShoe · 06-06-2003, 02:04 AM

I own DarkCity.
Matrix and DarkCity have NOTHING in common.

andi_germany · 06-06-2003, 02:05 AM

I have seen both Dark City and The Matrix. I would not say that Dark City is a movie the matrix is based on. Both movies have a totally different feel to it. By the way the producers never said that the story was new but the techniques to film it were unique and new.

bhutocracy · 06-06-2003, 02:06 AM

thats really lame - um.. both are dark futuristic movies of course they share a bunch of the same cliches. some of those comparisons were so fucking lame. i saw dark city when it came out - it was great - knowing the context in some of those pictures it 's pretty trumped up.
the premise was kinda the same in both of them - if you were aware at the time they came out there were comparisons.. aside from that, if you think matrix could have ripped off the first film and got it through the arcane studio process and into completion a mere year later you're fucking crazy.

but yeah - dark city, great movie, rent it out.. i didn't think of it once watching matrix the first time.

quiet · 06-06-2003, 02:08 AM

Neur omanc er

funkmaster · 06-06-2003, 02:12 AM

... I always said dark city is one of my most favourite movies, but I haven´t noticed that matrix was a dark city ripp ... and for sure it´s not !!!

bhutocracy · 06-06-2003, 02:15 AM

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Originally posted by quiet
Neur omanc er

heheh.

bhutocracy · 06-06-2003, 02:16 AM

im not saying they didn't get cues from dark city, but they did it well enough to seperate themselves.. I don't mind "inspiration" as long as the end product is better.

Mr.Fiction · 06-06-2003, 02:16 AM

Starwars is a ripoff of Lord of the Rings.

I want my money back.

bhutocracy · 06-06-2003, 02:23 AM

slutbus.com is a ripoff of bangbus.com

i want to chargeback

Rodent · 06-06-2003, 02:24 AM

OMG that war movie was a ripoff of that other war movie =0

eat my ass with a fork

RedShoe · 06-06-2003, 02:27 AM

Andrew Mason produced both movies.

And Michelle McGahey did the Art Production for both films (HUGE REASON WHY THEY HAVE A SIMILAR LOOK)

Rick Connelly, Kathy Courtney, Wendy Sainsbury, Sonja Smuk, and Elka Wardega all worked the make-up department together, on both films.

Carol Hughes, and Will Mathews were both production managers ON BOTH MOVIES!

Bruce Hunt, and James McTeigue were BOTH 2nd unit directors on both films.

Rodney Burke, Ray Fowler, David Pride, Arthur Spink Jr., Edwin Treasure, Thomas Van Koeverden, Walter Van Veenendaal, and David Young, did Special Effects FOR BOTH FILMS

Jane Maguire, Jon Thum... and many, many more did computer FX for both films.

Now do you see why two films that are nothing alike can look the same?

Any more stupid accusations?

Mr.Fiction · 06-06-2003, 02:28 AM

Avril Lavigne is almost exactly like the Sex Pistols too.

Rodent · 06-06-2003, 02:29 AM

you tell em redshoe

venturi · 06-06-2003, 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WolfPack
It is a copy of a movie called "Dark City" which was released in 1998, a year before the Matrix). I found this link with a comparison.

Oh dear lord ... DUH! and NO! all in the same sentence. Neither one is original. The concept of them both (plus 13th Floor, and a handful of others) are all based on concepts done before. Universal Unconscience is not a new concept...

The fact is that The Matrix, Dark City and The Thirteenth Floor are all excellent films and should be judged on their own merit and interpretation of this concept.

quiet · 06-06-2003, 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Avril Lavigne is almost exactly like the Sex Pistols too.

same with Johnny Cash and Shania

Libertine · 06-06-2003, 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RedShoe
Andrew Mason produced both movies.

And Michelle McGahey did the Art Production for both films (HUGE REASON WHY THEY HAVE A SIMILAR LOOK)

Rick Connelly, Kathy Courtney, Wendy Sainsbury, Sonja Smuk, and Elka Wardega all worked the make-up department together, on both films.

Carol Hughes, and Will Mathews were both production managers ON BOTH MOVIES!

Bruce Hunt, and James McTeigue were BOTH 2nd unit directors on both films.

Rodney Burke, Ray Fowler, David Pride, Arthur Spink Jr., Edwin Treasure, Thomas Van Koeverden, Walter Van Veenendaal, and David Young, did Special Effects FOR BOTH FILMS

Jane Maguire, Jon Thum... and many, many more did computer FX for both films.

Now do you see why two films that are nothing alike can look the same?

Any more stupid accusations?

And, even funnier, The Matrix was filmed in the same studio as Dark City, right after Dark City was filmed... to cut on the budget, they used much of the sets from Dark City.

06-06-2003, 05:13 AM

Wtf?? This guy is showing scenes from matrix 1 - 1994! Am I the only one who noticed that?

Libertine · 06-06-2003, 05:18 AM

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Originally posted by novaknet
Wtf?? This guy is showing scenes from matrix 1 - 1994! Am I the only one who noticed that?

http://us.imdb.com/Title?0133093

Mishi · 06-06-2003, 05:41 AM

Both very cool movies. I love how flicks released about the same time tend to take on the same general theme...even if it's artificial, it makes me feel better about myself and my pathetic, so-called life...as if there is something bigger out there, something more important...

Dark City rocks; really glad I got to see it in the theater, as it doesn't hold up as well on the small screen as The Matrix, IMO. Storywise it's more intriguing, but...oh, heck, blah blah blah blah blah.

Kapitan Ivanov · 06-06-2003, 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WolfPack
It is a copy of a movie called "Dark City" which was released in 1998, a year before the Matrix). I found this link with a comparison.

http://galeon.hispavista.com/cineram...ixdarkcity.htm

Yeah I love that movie. Very good. Not too much chit chat like a lot of these movies lately.

The mood of Dark City is absolutely fantastically dreary. Thumbs up.

JOP · 06-06-2003, 06:43 AM

Here is the real original movie matrix is based on. Forget that

Dark City Crap:

http://personal.inet.fi/surf/jarre/cow.mpeg

liquidmoe · 06-06-2003, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
and gibson was yapping about the matrix back in 84.

Months after it came out Gibson got dragged to see it and loved the movie. Before he was worried that it might be ripping on his work but he saw that it really was original and well done so there you have it. He wrote the afterword for "The Art of The Matrix" He even went so far as to say Neo is his favorite Sci Fi hero.

Reak · 06-06-2003, 08:13 AM

he has right

Lane · 06-06-2003, 08:30 AM

haters

Dragon Curve · 06-06-2003, 08:43 AM

We've heard this 500 times before. Stfu already. We know Dark City did something *barely* related to The Matrix.

And for that matter, dark city blew hairy goats' balls. It was the most tedious, unmoving load of crap.

The Matrix rocks =) Face it.

The Truth Hurts · 06-06-2003, 09:20 AM

what about "Thirteenth Floor"?

another good flick along the same line of thought.

Brujah · 06-06-2003, 05:27 PM

Dude the Matrix is a rip-off of
The Lawnmower Man

winter · 06-06-2003, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
what about "Thirteenth Floor"?

another good flick along the same line of thought.

Exactly. The 13th Floor was based on a book called Simulacrum 3... the matrix is just a ripoff of that filled with mind-numbing psuedo philosophical jargon and crazy special effects.

Indeed · 06-06-2003, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Starwars is a ripoff of Lord of the Rings.

I want my money back.

so true!

06-06-2003, 01:57 AM	#1
WolfPack Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 39	The Matrix is NOT an original movie It is a copy of a movie called "Dark City" which was released in 1998, a year before the Matrix). I found this link with a comparison. http://galeon.hispavista.com/cineram...ixdarkcity.htm

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quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	and gibson was yapping about the matrix back in 84.

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andi_germany Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 768	I have seen both Dark City and The Matrix. I would not say that Dark City is a movie the matrix is based on. Both movies have a totally different feel to it. By the way the producers never said that the story was new but the techniques to film it were unique and new.

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bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	thats really lame - um.. both are dark futuristic movies of course they share a bunch of the same cliches. some of those comparisons were so fucking lame. i saw dark city when it came out - it was great - knowing the context in some of those pictures it 's pretty trumped up. the premise was kinda the same in both of them - if you were aware at the time they came out there were comparisons.. aside from that, if you think matrix could have ripped off the first film and got it through the arcane studio process and into completion a mere year later you're fucking crazy. but yeah - dark city, great movie, rent it out.. i didn't think of it once watching matrix the first time.

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quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	Neur omanc er

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funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	... I always said dark city is one of my most favourite movies, but I haven´t noticed that matrix was a dark city ripp ... and for sure it´s not !!!

06-06-2003, 02:16 AM	#14
bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	im not saying they didn't get cues from dark city, but they did it well enough to seperate themselves.. I don't mind "inspiration" as long as the end product is better.

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bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	slutbus.com is a ripoff of bangbus.com i want to chargeback

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RedShoe 赤い靴 call me 202-456-1111 Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The Valley Posts: 14,831	Andrew Mason produced both movies. And Michelle McGahey did the Art Production for both films (HUGE REASON WHY THEY HAVE A SIMILAR LOOK) Rick Connelly, Kathy Courtney, Wendy Sainsbury, Sonja Smuk, and Elka Wardega all worked the make-up department together, on both films. Carol Hughes, and Will Mathews were both production managers ON BOTH MOVIES! Bruce Hunt, and James McTeigue were BOTH 2nd unit directors on both films. Rodney Burke, Ray Fowler, David Pride, Arthur Spink Jr., Edwin Treasure, Thomas Van Koeverden, Walter Van Veenendaal, and David Young, did Special Effects FOR BOTH FILMS Jane Maguire, Jon Thum... and many, many more did computer FX for both films. Now do you see why two films that are nothing alike can look the same? Any more stupid accusations? __________________ SPECIALTY COSTUMES • PROPS • FX Superheroes • Monsters • Robots PM for details For any manufacturing needs. Adult or otherwise. aka BonsHigh on Insta Bonsai weed plants

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Gasper Guest Posts: n/a	Wtf?? This guy is showing scenes from matrix 1 - 1994! Am I the only one who noticed that?

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Mishi Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,054	Both very cool movies. I love how flicks released about the same time tend to take on the same general theme...even if it's artificial, it makes me feel better about myself and my pathetic, so-called life...as if there is something bigger out there, something more important... Dark City rocks; really glad I got to see it in the theater, as it doesn't hold up as well on the small screen as The Matrix, IMO. Storywise it's more intriguing, but...oh, heck, blah blah blah blah blah. __________________ Looking for PHP/MySQL solutions? Check out Cyboriginal - custom scripts, installation services and more.

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JOP Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Europe Posts: 931	Here is the real original movie matrix is based on. Forget that Dark City Crap: http://personal.inet.fi/surf/jarre/cow.mpeg __________________ JOP

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Reak So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 420Calendar.com Posts: 17,920	he has right

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Dragon Curve Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 252	We've heard this 500 times before. Stfu already. We know Dark City did something barely related to The Matrix. And for that matter, dark city blew hairy goats' balls. It was the most tedious, unmoving load of crap. The Matrix rocks =) Face it.

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The Truth Hurts Zph7YXfjMhg Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In Your Skull Posts: 15,350	what about "Thirteenth Floor"? another good flick along the same line of thought.

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