Stealing Graphics - Legally? - GoFuckYourself.com

lil2rich4u2 · 06-05-2003, 06:02 PM

im talking about Nastydollars.com

The graphics they use on their galleries, tours, etc.

Can I use them if they are being used to solely promote their site?

example ... they have a gallery in their hosted gallery section, but i want to change it around a bit (promoting the same site though)

Stuff like buttons, or logo's, or pics, etc.

Do paysite owners object to this?

ldinternet · 06-05-2003, 06:03 PM

Well regardless of what anyone thinks (I'd say it's ok to use them), the only person that can give you a reliable answer is

webmaster at nastydollars dot com

Theo · 06-05-2003, 06:03 PM

you can use them

benthompson · 06-05-2003, 06:04 PM

I think buttons should be allright but not logos and images

Theo · 06-05-2003, 06:04 PM

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Originally posted by ldinternet
Well regardless of what people here think, the only person that can give you a reliable answer is

webmaster at nastydollars dot com

and SOUL REBEL

lil2rich4u2 · 06-05-2003, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ldinternet
Well regardless of what anyone thinks (I'd say it's ok to use them), the only person that can give you a reliable answer is

webmaster at nastydollars dot com

good point.

just sent them an email.

Luc Duboi · 06-05-2003, 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel

and SOUL REBEL

Luc Duboi too

lil2rich4u2 · 06-05-2003, 06:17 PM

http://www.nastydollars.com

is that loading for anyone?

UnseenWorld · 06-05-2003, 06:18 PM

I think the fact that you came to us instead of Nastydollars indicates that the real question was, "Would it get me into trouble to use NastyDollars' images without asking them for permission?" I think you KNEW it would be wrong. The real question was about what you were risking.

ldinternet · 06-05-2003, 06:19 PM

Yes it just came up, it was offline for a few minutes I think.

lil2rich4u2 · 06-05-2003, 06:21 PM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld
I think the fact that you came to us instead of Nastydollars indicates that the real question was, "Would it get me into trouble to use NastyDollars' images without asking them for permission?" I think you KNEW it would be wrong. The real question was about what you were risking.

thats bullshit.

i know a ton of paysite owners that would gladly let anyone use anything off their sites, providing its only promoting their sites.

I would do the same, i think you would as well.

I asked here because i never realized there was a contact page for nastydollars. After he mentioned it i went and looked and found it. Email has been sent.

Theo · 06-05-2003, 06:23 PM

why is it wrong? they offer them as free content and 99% of the ND templates come from the same graphics they have in their tours. I was probably the 1st to do that on most of their sites and then many followed. The word "stealing" is wrong here

UnseenWorld · 06-05-2003, 06:25 PM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

thats bullshit.

i know a ton of paysite owners that would gladly let anyone use anything off their sites, providing its only promoting their sites.

I would do the same, i think you would as well.

I asked here because i never realized there was a contact page for nastydollars. After he mentioned it i went and looked and found it. Email has been sent.

Nice smokescreeen.

The fact remains that the ONLY opinion that counts won't come from a poll of GFY webmasters. You can't deny that. The fact that other content owners may be doing something different is irrelevant. All that's really relevant is getting actual permission.

lil2rich4u2 · 06-05-2003, 06:27 PM

BTW this is why it was even a question to me.

A sponsor i use, and is a personal bud of mine has launched some hosted galleries ...

I asked him if its ok that i rip them off and host them myself so i can make some changes to them.

He told me its not ok, and if i wanted something different that i should pay to have it done for me and not use the ones he paid for.

lil2rich4u2 · 06-05-2003, 06:28 PM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld

Nice smokescreeen.

The fact remains that the ONLY opinion that counts won't come from a poll of GFY webmasters. You can't deny that. The fact that other content owners may be doing something different is irrelevant. All that's really relevant is getting actual permission.

yes ia gree with you here.

I dont agree with your above post though. Once again, im not trying to hide anything or sneak around ... i just wanted to know if anyone has had experience doing this with them (ND) since i didnt know of a way to contact them.

quiet · 06-05-2003, 06:30 PM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
why is it wrong? they offer them as free content and 99% of the ND templates come from the same graphics they have in their tours. I was probably the 1st to do that on most of their sites and then many followed. The word "stealing" is wrong here

my lawyers will be in contact with you ;)

but of course the reasonable and obvious thing to do would be to ask the owners, not strangers on a message board.

psyko514 · 06-05-2003, 06:36 PM

you're not strangers. you're my only friends.

Juicy D. Links · 06-05-2003, 06:38 PM

I email the owners all the time and they always say sure no prob

Fletch XXX · 06-05-2003, 06:38 PM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld

Nice smokescreeen.

a constant tactic.

lil2rich4u2 · 06-05-2003, 06:40 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX

a constant tactic.

hey fletch ... missed ya!

was wondering why you didnt take me up on my offer over here:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...7&pagenumber=2

BlueDesignStudios · 06-05-2003, 06:42 PM

I'm sure if you're making them enough money they'll let you use their graphics

UnseenWorld · 06-05-2003, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
why is it wrong? they offer them as free content and 99% of the ND templates come from the same graphics they have in their tours. I was probably the 1st to do that on most of their sites and then many followed. The word "stealing" is wrong here

Well, if you have permission in writing, or in the extremely unlikely case it's in the public domain... Otherwise, it's wrong to PRESUME permission. There is no copyright concept such as presumed permission that I'm aware of.

Exosist · 06-05-2003, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ldinternet
Well regardless of what anyone thinks (I'd say it's ok to use them), the only person that can give you a reliable answer is

webmaster at nastydollars dot com

what he said

Sly_RJ · 06-05-2003, 07:01 PM

Everyday people come here and ask the folks at GFY questions that could also be answered by sponsors, hosting companies, processors, content companies, etc. Nobody cares. Nobody gives them shit. People actually answer the question.

Anyway...

To get a definite answer, ask the sponsor. I've never asked Nasty Dollars before, maybe someone else here has (another reason for asking at GFY.)

If I were a sponsor and had hosted galleries with exclusive content, I would allow the affiliates to do whatever they wanted with the galleries as long as they used the content to only push traffic to my sites. Both affiliate and site owner are in this to make money, not be nit picky pricks looking for ways to fuck each other over. Now, if the content used is NOT exclusive, odds are you won't be able to host the galleries. If you know that the content isn't exclusive and the site owner STILL let's you host them, you should be a little leery. Odds are, both you and the site owner will be breaking license agreements.

Every now and then you'll find a site owner who's really anal about what you can and can't use. Forget them. Move on to a sponsor that's easy to work with, will save you hassle and frustration later on.

lyno · 06-05-2003, 07:46 PM

one time i made some manips with max hardcore content so i asked them for permission and got those. i think mostly it´s just a question of licences

quiet · 06-05-2003, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Everyday people come here and ask the folks at GFY questions that could also be answered by sponsors, hosting companies, processors, content companies, etc. Nobody cares. Nobody gives them shit. People actually answer the question.

so what? if someone started a thread (for example) asking if it was okay to use my videos on their galleries, none of those answers mean jack fucking shit.

the only one that matters is mine. the fucking owner.

god this is stupid.

Sly_RJ · 06-05-2003, 07:50 PM

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Originally posted by quiet

so what? if someone started a thread (for example) asking if it was okay to use my videos on their galleries, none of those answers mean jack fucking shit.

the only one that matters is mine. the fucking owner.

god this is stupid.

And that was part of what I said.

Jakke PNG · 06-05-2003, 09:58 PM

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Originally posted by quiet

so what? if someone started a thread (for example) asking if it was okay to use my videos on their galleries, none of those answers mean jack fucking shit.

the only one that matters is mine. the fucking owner.

god this is stupid.

But a GREAT way to spend extra time.

Groove · 06-05-2003, 10:09 PM

lil2rich4u2, why do you have so much trouble with the concept of ownership? It's pretty simple really, if you don't own something and it has not been deemed public property, you must get the owner's permission before you can use it.

Any questions?

06-05-2003, 06:02 PM	#1
lil2rich4u2 ICQ: 175171926 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,046	Stealing Graphics - Legally? im talking about Nastydollars.com The graphics they use on their galleries, tours, etc. Can I use them if they are being used to solely promote their site? example ... they have a gallery in their hosted gallery section, but i want to change it around a bit (promoting the same site though) Stuff like buttons, or logo's, or pics, etc. Do paysite owners object to this? __________________ HEY!! Unbeatable hosting! Customer service is top notch! --> ISPrime <-- Do a search on any board, their reputation is rock solid .. for years!!

06-05-2003, 06:04 PM	#4
benthompson Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 553	I think buttons should be allright but not logos and images __________________ No signature.. I am bored of the signatures aswell..

06-05-2003, 06:17 PM	#8
lil2rich4u2 ICQ: 175171926 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,046	http://www.nastydollars.com is that loading for anyone? __________________ HEY!! Unbeatable hosting! Customer service is top notch! --> ISPrime <-- Do a search on any board, their reputation is rock solid .. for years!!

06-05-2003, 06:18 PM	#9
UnseenWorld Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Portland, OR, USA Posts: 5,279	I think the fact that you came to us instead of Nastydollars indicates that the real question was, "Would it get me into trouble to use NastyDollars' images without asking them for permission?" I think you KNEW it would be wrong. The real question was about what you were risking. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

06-05-2003, 06:27 PM	#14
lil2rich4u2 ICQ: 175171926 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,046	BTW this is why it was even a question to me. A sponsor i use, and is a personal bud of mine has launched some hosted galleries ... I asked him if its ok that i rip them off and host them myself so i can make some changes to them. He told me its not ok, and if i wanted something different that i should pay to have it done for me and not use the ones he paid for. __________________ HEY!! Unbeatable hosting! Customer service is top notch! --> ISPrime <-- Do a search on any board, their reputation is rock solid .. for years!!

06-05-2003, 06:03 PM	#2
ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	Well regardless of what anyone thinks (I'd say it's ok to use them), the only person that can give you a reliable answer is webmaster at nastydollars dot com

06-05-2003, 06:03 PM	#3
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	you can use them

06-05-2003, 06:19 PM	#10
ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	Yes it just came up, it was offline for a few minutes I think.

06-05-2003, 06:23 PM	#12
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	why is it wrong? they offer them as free content and 99% of the ND templates come from the same graphics they have in their tours. I was probably the 1st to do that on most of their sites and then many followed. The word "stealing" is wrong here

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06-05-2003, 06:38 PM	#18
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	I email the owners all the time and they always say sure no prob

06-05-2003, 06:42 PM	#21
BlueDesignStudios Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 9,492	I'm sure if you're making them enough money they'll let you use their graphics __________________ Blue Design Studios - Adult Design Specialists! Email me for a free quote: [email protected]

06-05-2003, 07:01 PM	#24
Sly_RJ Live Hard - Die Hard Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ready to leave... Posts: 17,042	Everyday people come here and ask the folks at GFY questions that could also be answered by sponsors, hosting companies, processors, content companies, etc. Nobody cares. Nobody gives them shit. People actually answer the question. Anyway... To get a definite answer, ask the sponsor. I've never asked Nasty Dollars before, maybe someone else here has (another reason for asking at GFY.) If I were a sponsor and had hosted galleries with exclusive content, I would allow the affiliates to do whatever they wanted with the galleries as long as they used the content to only push traffic to my sites. Both affiliate and site owner are in this to make money, not be nit picky pricks looking for ways to fuck each other over. Now, if the content used is NOT exclusive, odds are you won't be able to host the galleries. If you know that the content isn't exclusive and the site owner STILL let's you host them, you should be a little leery. Odds are, both you and the site owner will be breaking license agreements. Every now and then you'll find a site owner who's really anal about what you can and can't use. Forget them. Move on to a sponsor that's easy to work with, will save you hassle and frustration later on. __________________ PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price! sly AT phatservers DOT com - 147479144

06-05-2003, 07:46 PM	#25
lyno Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: On my way to Sirius1 Posts: 474	one time i made some manips with max hardcore content so i asked them for permission and got those. i think mostly it´s just a question of licences

06-05-2003, 10:09 PM	#29
Groove Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,852	lil2rich4u2, why do you have so much trouble with the concept of ownership? It's pretty simple really, if you don't own something and it has not been deemed public property, you must get the owner's permission before you can use it. Any questions?