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Old 06-05-2003, 10:47 AM   #1
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Designer Hell, this ever happened to you?

Ok I am now on my third designer that this is happening with.

All I need is a few banners their protfolio is awesome but my work does not look like something tht matches the stuff in the protfolio. Keep in mind we are very specific of what we want the banner to look like etc.

Anyone else here had this happen?
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Old 06-05-2003, 10:49 AM   #2
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scammers and theives, liars and sycophants.

point them out.
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Old 06-05-2003, 10:50 AM   #3
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scammers and theives, liars and sycophants.

point them out.
Hey! Point that finger at some other guy!
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Old 06-05-2003, 10:51 AM   #4
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You can trust exactly 1% of designers. That's why it's so important to really get to know them on message boards like this before paying them in advance.
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Old 06-05-2003, 10:52 AM   #5
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thieves, thieves and liars, murderers
hypocrites and bastards

hey thanks for nothing!
morals in the dust
two-faced bastards and syncophants
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Old 06-05-2003, 10:53 AM   #6
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HOAX is a great designer, never had any problems with him
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Old 06-05-2003, 10:55 AM   #7
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Had the same problem with sites . Dickman Design is very good. They are willing to work with you as long as it takes to get the job right. And we are very difficult to work with so i give them full marks for sticking with our project.s

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Old 06-05-2003, 10:56 AM   #8
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Escort man i feel bad for you ith the luck youve been having lately with these people
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Old 06-05-2003, 10:57 AM   #9
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Escort man i feel bad for you ith the luck youve been having lately with these people
most of the work people did where with no hassel but then there are the liars that if I would have more time I would get rid of them one by one.
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Old 06-05-2003, 10:58 AM   #10
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You can trust exactly 1% of designers. That's why it's so important to really get to know them on message boards like this before paying them in advance.
All the companys we have worked with have not asked for payment in advance and we are talking $4000 site designs not $300 ones. See my post above if you want a good company with a great eye for design. Be warned these guys are not cheap, but then who wants cheap looking web sites ?

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Old 06-05-2003, 10:59 AM   #11
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Had the same problem with sites . Dickman Design is very good. They are willing to work with you as long as it takes to get the job right. And we are very difficult to work with so i give them full marks for sticking with our project.s

Cindy xx
are they in american or 12 hour time difference?

Thanks
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Old 06-05-2003, 11:00 AM   #12
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You can trust exactly 1% of designers. That's why it's so important to really get to know them on message boards like this before paying them in advance.
True only pay them after they give you something
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Old 06-05-2003, 11:00 AM   #13
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What sort of approach have you been taking Escort? (if you don't mind me asking) Are you trying to get pro grade work for bottom dollar and it simply isn't panning out or what's the deal?

Not trying to bust your balls here, but you should know the golden rule by now Escort.... you get what you pay for in this world.

If you had hired Sharky, or WebInc, or Supercharged, or Bruno, or any other high end designer, you wouldn't still be chasing your tail with this. You wouldn't hire the Taco Bell Drive Thru kid to tune your car engine simply because he's cheaper than a real mechanic would you?
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Old 06-05-2003, 11:00 AM   #14
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My advice, go with those who have a reference list to show to you upfront, and has been in business for quite a few years.
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Old 06-05-2003, 11:01 AM   #15
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You can trust exactly 1% of designers. That's why it's so important to really get to know them on message boards like this before paying them in advance.
Some guys put out multiple threads on multiple boards trying to get the CHEAPEST deal, when you target your designers this way, you set yourself up for failure.

I see it time and time again, people looking for the cheapest deal possible instead of finding a good designer they can work with, are comfortable with, and they trust.

Its like instead of shopping for a designer, they want the designer to come to them.

The honest webmasters are too busy to chase down threads.

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Old 06-05-2003, 11:02 AM   #16
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are they in american or 12 hour time difference?

Thanks
I THINK they're brazilian, not sure at all though...
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Old 06-05-2003, 11:04 AM   #17
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What sort of approach have you been taking Escort? (if you don't mind me asking) Are you trying to get pro grade work for bottom dollar and it simply isn't panning out or what's the deal?

Not trying to bust your balls here, but you should know the golden rule by now Escort.... you get what you pay for in this world.

If you had hired Sharky, or WebInc, or Supercharged, or Bruno, or any other high end designer, you wouldn't still be chasing your tail with this. You wouldn't hire the Taco Bell Drive Thru kid to tune your car engine simply because he's cheaper than a real mechanic would you?
Look if they want they can confirm it here I tell everyone I need quality over price!

You dont know me and you keep on thinking im some cheap ass.

Thats what bothers me i9m willing to pay and I pay but I get shit.
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Old 06-05-2003, 11:04 AM   #18
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This has never happened to me. I only work with people that I know personally and that I can trust. I pay them in advance and they deliver excellent work in a timely fashion.
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Old 06-05-2003, 11:06 AM   #19
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Ok I am now on my third designer that this is happening with.

All I need is a few banners their protfolio is awesome but my work does not look like something tht matches the stuff in the protfolio. Keep in mind we are very specific of what we want the banner to look like etc.

Anyone else here had this happen?
I have been very happy with the banner work of Webinc.
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Old 06-05-2003, 11:06 AM   #20
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wasn't presuming anything man... was just asking you what the situation is...
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Old 06-05-2003, 11:07 AM   #21
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That's why you should only get your stuff from 50 dollar contests.


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Old 06-05-2003, 11:07 AM   #22
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I have been very happy with the banner work of Webinc.
I am happy too with their work most of the banners on my new paysite is their work.

But I like using different people, I used 7 different content guys to shoot custom content in the past 45 days.
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Old 06-05-2003, 11:18 AM   #23
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Good for you

You should have stuck with me when you asked about it...haha!
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Old 06-05-2003, 11:34 AM   #24
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Good designers we have worked with:

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Hoax Great work, timely work He's just so damned cute it it's all I can think about.


Fletch Great work, great music He bogart's the pipe


TGF Great work, Great humor He sends naked pics along with his finished work.


Marian at madthumbs Great work, really fast She's just so damned cute it's all I can think about.
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Old 06-05-2003, 11:34 AM   #25
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didnt contact me back either.

i wouldnt ask you for cash until you saw and liked what i produced.
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Somebody considers that a pro, goddamnit!
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Somebody considers that a pro, goddamnit!
If we could only get you to sign the model releases ;)
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Old 06-05-2003, 11:41 AM   #28
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heres the deal designer ICQ

268748058

He will give you the specifics and ill buy all good ones.

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I'm just glad you still use that sigbutton

Must be the 12 hour (actually: 6) difference in our case?
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You can trust exactly 1% of designers. That's why it's so important to really get to know them on message boards like this before paying them in advance.
yes, and the millions of nicks on GFY all belong to different people.
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Must be the 12 hour (actually: 6) difference in our case?
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Had the same problem with sites . Dickman Design is very good. They are willing to work with you as long as it takes to get the job right. And we are very difficult to work with so i give them full marks for sticking with our project.s

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Yeah, Cindy, they are great designers . I know Bruno Dickman for a long time, and the others guys do awesome work too. You just forgot an S, its Dickmans Design.

They are from Sao Paulo, Brazil, so no big difference in time. Bruno Dickman is always on ICQ, his number is 107450119.

Their work isnt cheap, but its



I design just gallery templates.

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Pick one, price, quality, speed. Damn near impossible to get all three and very difficult to even get two.
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Ok I am now on my third designer that this is happening with.

All I need is a few banners their protfolio is awesome but my work does not look like something tht matches the stuff in the protfolio. Keep in mind we are very specific of what we want the banner to look like etc.

Anyone else here had this happen?
why does this ALWAYS happend to you?
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are they in american or 12 hour time difference?

Thanks
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Anyone else here had this happen?

Well, if your attack on jellohead is indicative of how you treat the designers you hire then yes, you will have problems with everyone.
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Thank you so much for mentioning us Cindy and Jer! You ROCK!


EscortBizPro, as I told you on ICQ, if you want to be sure you will get the quality you see on a company´s portfolio, ask them if all work is done in house. In house work is usually much more consistent in terms of quality! (plug: we do everything in house)

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Fuck it if the banners don't look like the ones in the portfolio. I'd be happy if I could just get my shit delivered on time without the fuckers disappearing on me for weeks at a time.
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