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SoBeGirl Video 06-05-2003 01:07 PM

Did I put a pic of the 16 DVDs with the 200 video shoots and pics in this thread yet?

Where is Groove

Que? 06-05-2003 01:11 PM

So there...

Now kiss and make up, then click sig and buy it all
:Graucho

yeah, and by the way someone who cant clear matters with concerned partys, but must get back on boards by spoiling someones biz, doesnt exactly impress despite billions of ferraris or what not...

Ironhorse 06-05-2003 01:16 PM

Hey people should remember that the PaulMarkham site got attacked recently and Charly is probably pretty stressed about that right now. My guess is he and his staff are probably on their toes trying to identify the source of his troubles. This is a very competitive business

I think given these factors, many of you would've reacted the same way under these conditions.

Brujah 06-05-2003 02:14 PM

SORRY CHARLY

http://www.vegalleries.com/commopc/z15charlie.jpg

SureFire 06-05-2003 05:59 PM

Here is my problem with Charly?s internet practices:

On his registration page he states:

?Your inforamtion is confidential to us. We will never sell it or pass it on to anyone.
We will however send you our weekly update email, so you can see the newest sets first.?

And on the boards he forgets to be professional and posts user information.

:)

Ironhorse 06-05-2003 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SureFire


And on the boards he forgets to be professional and posts user information.

:)

Ehm..publically available information from Whois database, not that was submitted to him. A little different I think.

quiet 06-05-2003 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah
Fuck 'em Jim.

You're the customer. If it isn't easy for you to spend your money, they lose the sale. There are too many other content guys to bother with one that wants all your information AND will post it in public if you pick on him on a message board.

Need some recommendations ?

:glugglug

focusadult has some great video...

SureFire 06-05-2003 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ironhorse


Ehm..publically available information from Whois database, not that was submitted to him. A little different I think.



Previous Post on this thread from Charly:
"The guy was running around the site clicking like a CJ.

He was also going throught the orders section completing them, with and without ordering content.

But never giving any way of paying.


quote:
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Jim Faile 002873 canceled 05-06-2003 GFYfree no notes PMCS
Jim Faile 002872 canceled 05-06-2003 GFYfree no notes PMCS
Jim Faile 002871 canceled 05-06-2003 GFYfree no notes PMCS
Jim Faile 002870 canceled 05-06-2003 GFYfree no notes PMCS
Jim Faile 002869 canceled 05-06-2003 GFYfree no notes PMCS
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This was in the ten minutes he was on the site, before I bounced him out.

The phone number he gave me was an answering machine,

The site he gave in response to my asking for an "ADULT" URL" was not adult. If he has so many why hide the fact?

The site on the email address came up as a 404.

I sell a license to content, I need to know the people I deal with are straight. And I do not need his money."



Is the above public information?

:)

CDSmith 06-05-2003 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TampaJim
This guy didn't ruin it for me...

I bought from Clutch, Cloud 9, Sobe, FA Productions, and Centerfold Babes. Great stuff from all of them.

You're telling me you haven't bought from <a href="http://www.jactcontent.com/in/m/cdsmith" TARGET="_blank" onMouseOver="window.status='http://www.jactcontent.com'; return true">JACT</a> yet??


Man you just don't know what's what.

UnseenWorld 06-05-2003 06:39 PM

I also will cancel a user who provides no evidence of being in the adult business. The easiest way for a guy to prove he's an adult webmaster is to provide me a webmaster@ e-mail address based on an obviously adult domain. If he's using a Yahoo or Hotmail or nonadult-sounding e-mail address, then he will need to provide an obviously adult domain name with accurate WHOIS info (because I'll be using the info in the WHOIS to contact him). More than once I've cancelled someone who pulls the old, "Do you know who I am? I own 80,000 websites and I spend $500,000,000 a year on content," to which I reply, "All I'm asking is for you to prove that rather than merely alleging it."

gothweb 06-05-2003 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by UnseenWorld
I also will cancel a user who provides no evidence of being in the adult business. The easiest way for a guy to prove he's an adult webmaster is to provide me a webmaster@ e-mail address based on an obviously adult domain. If he's using a Yahoo or Hotmail or nonadult-sounding e-mail address, then he will need to provide an obviously adult domain name with accurate WHOIS info (because I'll be using the info in the WHOIS to contact him). More than once I've cancelled someone who pulls the old, "Do you know who I am? I own 80,000 websites and I spend $500,000,000 a year on content," to which I reply, "All I'm asking is for you to prove that rather than merely alleging it."
Yeah, but once they proved it, would you keep arguing?

CDSmith 06-05-2003 07:00 PM

Well, in Charley's defense here..... content providers must be cautious of who they sell content to these days. Someone might buy up a bunch of pics and take over the world with them. We wouldn't want that now would we?





Well, would we??

SureFire 06-05-2003 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by UnseenWorld
I also will cancel a user who provides no evidence of being in the adult business. The easiest way for a guy to prove he's an adult webmaster is to provide me a webmaster@ e-mail address based on an obviously adult domain. If he's using a Yahoo or Hotmail or nonadult-sounding e-mail address, then he will need to provide an obviously adult domain name with accurate WHOIS info (because I'll be using the info in the WHOIS to contact him). More than once I've cancelled someone who pulls the old, "Do you know who I am? I own 80,000 websites and I spend $500,000,000 a year on content," to which I reply, "All I'm asking is for you to prove that rather than merely alleging it."
Why let them in the first place, if you are unsure of their motives?

You guys have time to watch a mouse click but don't know how to pre-qualify a potential customer?

:)

UnseenWorld 06-05-2003 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb


Yeah, but once they proved it, would you keep arguing?

Probably not. :1orglaugh

gothweb 06-05-2003 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by UnseenWorld


Probably not. :1orglaugh

There we go then.

bugout 06-05-2003 07:14 PM

Tampa..

your dreamsgirls videos kick ass.. keep up the good work. :thumbsup

Is that you that drives around in the M3 drop top?

J$tyle$ 06-05-2003 07:29 PM

Hey Tampa -

What a GREAT subject line!

Wish I would have thought of it first

LOL

All this time I've been saying this guys a schmuck ... your thread, and all these posts are conclusive evidence

:)

BTW - you want some KILLER ultra-high quality content?

Check out the One Lick Media offer ... you can get their ENTIRE library for only $2750!

108 sets with OVER 10,500 images

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=140282

:thumbsup

Rutopls 06-05-2003 07:34 PM

Plus if you use Charly you may get the extra bonus round of a email from APIC, since he is a strong supporter of thier methods! Maybe that is the root of his server problems!

jimmyf 06-05-2003 07:57 PM

charly, you really do need to do some work on your shopping cart, I went to your site, picked out some set's, $200.00 worth, when I went to check out it had a price of over $1,000.00. I was going to ICQ you but forgot. Also it's not that easy to get around, your site. :2 cents:

Jer 06-05-2003 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb
Yeah, but once they proved it, would you keep arguing?
:1orglaugh

theking 06-05-2003 08:54 PM

And 100...this is the first time I have done this...do I get my prize now?

TampaJim 06-05-2003 08:54 PM

100.

TampaJim 06-05-2003 08:56 PM

Congrads.

It would have been my first time.

Mutt 06-05-2003 09:08 PM

i only did it once. and it was a letdown. :(

[illnet]-Jamie 06-05-2003 09:13 PM

Nice!

[illnet]-Jamie 06-05-2003 09:30 PM

.

Paul Markham 06-05-2003 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi
charly seems paranoid. i wanted to buy some stuff.
i registered with my nick and put my site as gofuckyourself.com (why the fuck should i give him my sites ? he doesnt need to know that)
he never sent me a password.

i have to beg him to let me in and buy some of his shit ?
fuck that.

So let me see how you want it.

I let anyone come in and buy content any Mickey Mouse registration what ever. I then put that info to the license, but who cares this guy has already filled in the registration form incorrectly so the license is toilet paper.

He then pays for it on a Credit Card, the only bounced CC transactions I've had were on fictiscious registrations.

He then goes and puts the sets he bought on 100 different URLs gives them to affilaites or worse opens his own content store.

I'm not saying Jim is that guy and it's clear he's not. Based on the information he gave I made a decision and got it wrong. Based on the information DarkJedi gave I made a decision and got it right. The form actually says "No nicknames" and "An ADULT site you own"

We have to make a call, because we are about to sell $10 to $1,000 via a CC, based on what we have in front of us. Plus we are protecting our content from being distributed unfairly over the net.

People who buy from us know we bust a gut to give as good a service as we can. Those that choose not to deal with us, fine it's a free world.

We run our business the way we feel is best for us and our clients, if that does not fit into the way you want to do business then fine.

Jim did not even attempt to explain why he clicked on the basket so many times or why he gave a non adult URL, he just got on his high horse, emailed me the list of sites he owns, told me he is a content producer, then told me to GFY and posted here.

What would you have done?

Kimmykim 06-05-2003 09:56 PM

Hmmm, forgive me if I'm intruding here but I have a question... what does it matter what site someone owns if they want to buy content?

What if a surfer wanted to buy a particular set for his own use, on his own computer? What if he were willing to pay full price and had no intent of using the images on any website?

What if someone were interested in content but NOT interested in being on a mailing list, seeing new sets weekly or anything else, they just wanted to buy some sets and be done with it?

If someone buys something from a content producer and they do not use it appropriately then you take the necessary action to correct their misuse, which is an assumed cost of doing business, no?

I just don't get it.

I also don't get why someone would need to explain their shopping habits -- thankfully none of the online stores asks me to explain how so much stuff goes in and out of a shopping cart before I actually whip out a card and make the purchase, I'd be a bit offended if they did perhaps.

TampaJim 06-05-2003 10:28 PM

My email to PM

"Your shopping cart system is a little hard to understand.



First: Click here for the $1300 special.


Second: I click again to try and view what I?m getting for $1300. A message says ?You have already put this in your shopping cart.?

I tried to view my cart and it was empty.

You try it."



This was my was of trying to explain what happened with your weird shopping cart.



StreetRacers.com...nonadult...

Check out the models section. I sure every webmaster here will recognize the pictures I used.

Clearly your solo girl stuff would have fit perfectly with my site.

Jim

:2 cents:

Paul Markham 06-05-2003 10:29 PM

Quote:

Hmmm, forgive me if I'm intruding here but I have a question... what does it matter what site someone owns if they want to buy content?
Because it gives us an idea who he is, not 100%. Plus they are buying a license for the sites they own.

Quote:

What if a surfer wanted to buy a particular set for his own use, on his own computer? What if he were willing to pay full price and had no intent of using the images on any website?
Already supply this service to a website. But best they tell us if they want to do it direct.

Quote:

What if someone were interested in content but NOT interested in being on a mailing list, seeing new sets weekly or anything else, they just wanted to buy some sets and be done with it?
If a buyer wants to waste time going around in the hope of finding something new and suitable, fine. The other consideration is the money we make by sending out the update emails. Balance between pleasing those who want the emails, those who do not and us making a profit. We choose our way because it makes us the most money. Which goes through CC processors. :)

Quote:

If someone buys something from a content producer and they do not use it appropriately then you take the necessary action to correct their misuse, which is an assumed cost of doing business, no?
Yes but an attempt to stop him before he has the content and charges it on a fraudulent card or charged back is all we are trying to do. Or will the CC processor pay the charge back fee?

Shopping habits.
Normally no one does need to explain, this was a judgement call. Got it wrong, sometimes get it right. It's an elementary form of scrubbing. We are also trying to avoid pirates, fraud and charge backs, before they happen.

DarkJedi 06-05-2003 10:31 PM

What if i don't want to give you my personal info ?
I used DarkJedi handle and you knew who it was.

I could have used some fake name and put in a fake adult URL, would that do it for you ?


Why are you being so paranoid about surfer whacking off to your content ? Trust me, they would rather be surfing thehun than some content site with only samples.

quiet 06-05-2003 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rutopls
Plus if you use Charly you may get the extra bonus round of a email from APIC, since he is a strong supporter of thier methods! Maybe that is the root of his server problems!
apic are complete and utter cockholsters.

Paul Markham 06-05-2003 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TampaJim
My email to PM

"Your shopping cart system is a little hard to understand.

First: Click here for the $1300 special.

Second: I click again to try and view what I?m getting for $1300. A message says ?You have already put this in your shopping cart.?

I tried to view my cart and it was empty.

You try it."

This was my was of trying to explain what happened with your weird shopping cart.

StreetRacers.com...nonadult...

Check out the models section. I sure every webmaster here will recognize the pictures I used.

Clearly your solo girl stuff would have fit perfectly with my site.

Jim

:2 cents:

This was after the post here and the GFY plus I did not think models on a car site meant girls I thought it meant cars.

I have tried that shopping basket and it works for me, the problem is I understand it. Might need changing.

If you think our work fits your site then fine, no surfer ever stopped jerking off because I'm an idiot. If he did I would be out of business.

I buy/sell with people I can't stand to be in the same room with, I shoot models I would rather strangle. Fortunately this is the only a few people/models. That's business, this is not a social club. It's about doing things for the money a friend $$ buys no more than an enemies.

In your case I made a hasty call, you responded hasty. So now we both lose. Life goes on.

Paul Markham 06-05-2003 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi
What if i don't want to give you my personal info ?
I used DarkJedi handle and you knew who it was.

I could have used some fake name and put in a fake adult URL, would that do it for you ?

Because you are about to purchase a license with a credit card. I do not know who DarkJedi is, just someone who posts on the craziest board in town and you do not own this website.

kmanrox 06-05-2003 10:47 PM

i would like to add an addendum to the original post, as obvious as it is;

I am an idiot as well.

Thank you for your attention on this matter.


Regards,

Lee... err K-Man

TampaJim 06-05-2003 10:48 PM

Dude,

I sent you my url list to prove to you that I own mainstream adult sites.

I gave you more time to respond and correct the error than the ten minutes you allowed me to look at your content before you yanked my password.

Look at how long my original post is. I typed it and waited awhile while you and I exchanged emails. After a couple of "holier than thou" emails from you, I said....Go Fuck Yourself! and brought this event into a public arena. You even said, "If you want to take it public, go ahead."

Paul Markham 06-05-2003 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet


apic are complete and utter cockholsters.

Give me an alternative to them and I will use them.

You buy content from us you get the protection of APIC. Someone goes to your site steals our content off it, you get the "Not my problem" responses fromn the webmaster/host/affiliate. Contact us, APIC usually solve the problem.

Not perfect they fucked up last week, I pulled them off. But right most of the time.

Or do we give our money to attorneys or just throw up our arms and say "steal it we can't be bothered"

d0se 06-05-2003 10:49 PM

Not that I buy content much, but after reading this crap I would never buy from Charly's outfit.... :thumbsup

quiet 06-05-2003 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
Give me an alternative to them and I will use them.

You buy content from us you get the protection of APIC. Someone goes to your site steals our content off it, you get the "Not my problem" responses fromn the webmaster/host/affiliate. Contact us, APIC usually solve the problem.

Not perfect they fucked up last week, I pulled them off. But right most of the time.

Or do we give our money to attorneys or just throw up our arms and say "steal it we can't be bothered"

give you an alternative? lol. it's called a lawyer.

ALL my video is completely exclusive. apic and their sorry ass tactics will never see a dime from me.

kmanrox 06-05-2003 10:54 PM

mainstream adult site? dating?


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