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Old 06-04-2003, 12:11 PM   #1
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Not Good: Support for U.S. at new low

"Global opinion of the United States and its policies appears to be the latest casualty of the war in Iraq"

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/...700278912.html

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationwo...news-headlines
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Old 06-04-2003, 12:11 PM   #2
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"Global opinion of the United States and its policies appears to be the latest casualty of the war in Iraq"

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/...700278912.html

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationwo...news-headlines
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Old 06-04-2003, 12:13 PM   #3
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"Global opinion of the United States and its policies appears to be the latest casualty of the war in Iraq"

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/...700278912.html

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationwo...news-headlines
It's not just the war, it's Bush.

Remember when some right wingers said Bush was going to "restore dignity to the White House".
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Old 06-04-2003, 12:14 PM   #4
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It's not just the war, it's Bush.

Remember when some right wingers said Bush was going to "restore dignity to the White House".
At least he doesn't get blowjobs in the oval office
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Old 06-04-2003, 12:15 PM   #5
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Who cares?
Obviously you do, or else there would be no other explanation why you respond to everyone of my posts.

Ignore button is there for a reason chump.



This internet thing is pretty hard to figure out huh?
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Old 06-04-2003, 12:16 PM   #6
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At least he doesn't get blowjobs in the oval office
Yeah that is way worse
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Old 06-04-2003, 12:16 PM   #7
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It's not just the war, it's Bush.

Remember when some right wingers said Bush was going to "restore dignity to the White House".

Your idea of dignity is based on world opinion?
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Old 06-04-2003, 12:17 PM   #8
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Obviously you do, or else there would be no other explanation why you respond to everyone of my posts.

Ignore button is there for a reason chump.



This internet thing is pretty hard to figure out huh?
Am I getting on your nerves dumbfuck?
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Your idea of dignity is based on world opinion?
I dont see how you could argue otherwise.
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Old 06-04-2003, 12:18 PM   #10
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oh no, ultra socialists and muslims hate us, what will I do.
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Am I getting on your nerves dumbfuck?
Sure...if it makes you feel better. Whatever floats your boat.
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Old 06-04-2003, 12:19 PM   #12
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Am I getting on your nerves dumbfuck?
is this Hippidy the theif?
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Old 06-04-2003, 12:26 PM   #13
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oh no, ultra socialists and muslims hate us, what will I do.
"But the conflict exacerbated the divide between the United States and Europe, aggravated Muslim anger toward America, <b>and softened support for the worldwide battle against terrorism</b>"

so which is that you want...because you certainly sound like a hypocrite....end the war on terror OR cause more terror?
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Old 06-04-2003, 12:27 PM   #14
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I dont see how you could argue otherwise.
One could argue why do we care what the rest of the world thinks anyway?
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Old 06-04-2003, 12:30 PM   #15
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One could argue why do we care what the rest of the world thinks anyway?
one could argue that we're not the only country with nukes and we exist in a global economy.
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Old 06-04-2003, 12:30 PM   #16
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One could argue why do we care what the rest of the world thinks anyway?
Maybe because "the rest of the world" are the ones most likely to blow up things in the U.S. and kill Americans?
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Old 06-04-2003, 12:31 PM   #17
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The actual report:
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America's Image Further Erodes, Europeans Want Weaker Ties
But Post-War Iraq Will Be Better Off, Most Say

Anti-war sentiment and disapproval of President Bush's international policies continue to erode America's image among the publics of its allies. U.S. favorability ratings have plummeted in the past six months in countries actively opposing war * France, Germany and Russia * as well as in countries that are part of the "coalition of the willing." In Great Britain, favorable views of the U.S. have declined from 75% to 48% since mid-2002.

In Poland, positive views of the U.S. have fallen to 50% from nearly 80% six months ago; in Italy, the proportion of respondents holding favorable views of the United States has declined by half over the same period (from 70% to 34%). In Spain, fewer than one-in-five (14%) have a favorable opinion of the United States. Views of the U.S. in Russia, which had taken a dramatically positive turn after Sept. 11, 2001, are now more negative than they were prior to the terrorist attacks.

Among possible coalition countries, majorities oppose joining the U.S. to take action against Iraq to end Saddam Hussein's rule. Even in Great Britain, a 51% majority opposes war. Among the unwilling allies, there is also virtually no potential support for a U.S.- led military effort.

But ironically, most publics surveyed think that in the long run the Iraqi people will be better off and the Middle East will be more stable if Iraq is disarmed and Hussein is removed from power. More than seven-in-ten of the French (73%) and Germans (71% ) see the Iraqi public benefiting. Only in Russia and Turkey is there significant pessimism that war may worsen conditions in the region.

More generally, criticisms of U.S. foreign policy are almost universal. Overwhelming majorities disapprove of President Bush's foreign policy and the small boost he received in the wake of Sept. 11 has disappeared. As a consequence, publics in seven of the eight nations surveyed believe that American policies have a negative effect on their country. Only the British are divided on the impact of American foreign policy on their country.

While critics of America's foreign policies mostly blame the president, rather than America more generally, the poll finds strong support for the idea that Western Europe should take a more independent approach to security and diplomatic affairs. Majorities in four of five Western European countries surveyed hold this opinion, and a 48% plurality in Great Britain agrees. In the U.S., by contrast, 62% believe diplomatic and security ties with Western Europe should remain as close as they have been.

There is more of a consensus on both sides of the Atlantic about the continued importance of the United Nations. Majorities in the U.S. and Western Europe (except for Spain) think it still plays an important role in addressing global conflicts, despite the controversy over Iraq. That view is not shared in Russia and Turkey, and even in the U.S., where as many as a third see the U.N. as less important. Republicans, in particular, are divided about the continued importance of the U.N. More than four-in-ten Republicans (44%) think the Iraq crisis has shown it to be less important.

The latest survey by the Pew Global Attitudes Project interviewed more than 5,500 people in the United States and eight other countries from March 10-17. See page 8 for a full description of the methodology.
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In Great Britain, favorable views of the U.S. have declined from 75% to 48% since mid-2002.

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Old 06-04-2003, 12:37 PM   #19
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When are all the anti American mongrels on this board going to understand:
The United States of America RULES the world.
There is nothing you can do about it.
By being here and pushing porn, you put money intothe US economy.
If there is ever a day when the USA goes down, that day will be the end of humanity.
No country on this planet can stnad up to the US.
China shuts up, otherwise they would have to eat their slave produced inferior product.
Europe is about to explode.
Russia is nothing but a paper tiger.
The Arab world is too divided.
The terrorists can kill thousands but cannot eradicate the US.
So, stop wasting your time
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Old 06-04-2003, 12:39 PM   #20
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When are all the anti American mongrels on this board going to understand:
The United States of America RULES the world.
There is nothing you can do about it.
By being here and pushing porn, you put money intothe US economy.
If there is ever a day when the USA goes down, that day will be the end of humanity.
No country on this planet can stnad up to the US.
China shuts up, otherwise they would have to eat their slave produced inferior product.
Europe is about to explode.
Russia is nothing but a paper tiger.
The Arab world is too divided.
The terrorists can kill thousands but cannot eradicate the US.
So, stop wasting your time
"So, stop wasting your time"

umm...who exactly is wasting their time? how long did it take you to come up with such stirring, thought provoking pronouncements?

It must have been difficult to write that in your Ritalin-induced state.
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Old 06-04-2003, 12:41 PM   #21
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When are all the anti American mongrels on this board going to understand:
The United States of America RULES the world.
There is nothing you can do about it.
By being here and pushing porn, you put money intothe US economy.
If there is ever a day when the USA goes down, that day will be the end of humanity.
No country on this planet can stnad up to the US.
China shuts up, otherwise they would have to eat their slave produced inferior product.
Europe is about to explode.
Russia is nothing but a paper tiger.
The Arab world is too divided.
The terrorists can kill thousands but cannot eradicate the US.
So, stop wasting your time
Dick Cheney posts on DU?
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Dick Cheney posts on DU?
I think you meant....

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Old 06-04-2003, 12:42 PM   #23
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When are all the anti American mongrels on this board going to understand:
The United States of America RULES the world.
There is nothing you can do about it.
By being here and pushing porn, you put money intothe US economy.
If there is ever a day when the USA goes down, that day will be the end of humanity.
No country on this planet can stnad up to the US.
China shuts up, otherwise they would have to eat their slave produced inferior product.
Europe is about to explode.
Russia is nothing but a paper tiger.
The Arab world is too divided.
The terrorists can kill thousands but cannot eradicate the US.
So, stop wasting your time
Need I remind you that this guy is not even an American.
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it must have been diffcult to write that in your Ritalin-induced state.

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Need I remind you that this guy is not even an American.
J'étais Francais, et ben alors?
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More total crap from the dim members of US society... It never fails!
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Those polls just show that euros are dumb. Majorities think the Iraqi people will benefit and the region will be more stable but the same majorities think it was wrong and hate us for it. What a bunch of dumbasses.
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Here's the best part!!

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I'm not prejudiced but you probably suck.
Sad shit!!
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If there is ever a day when the USA goes down, that day will be the end of humanity.




"Humanity" has been getting along fine for the past hundreds of thousands of years without the US moron. If the US does "go down" it will because of retards like you, not "terror" or "rogue states".
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By being here and pushing porn, you put money intothe US economy.
by pushing porn I take MORE money OUT of the US economy.
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Those polls just show that euros are dumb. Majorities think the Iraqi people will benefit and the region will be more stable but the same majorities think it was wrong and hate us for it. What a bunch of dumbasses.
actually it just shows you're a dumbass who can't understand that people don't appreciate being lied to.

Also the majority of people in the rest of the world don't hate US citizens they just hate Bush et al.
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By being here and pushing porn, you put money intothe US economy.
I am taking US dollars OUT of your economy.

These dollars go into the Australian economy.

Do you have a clue?
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I am taking US dollars OUT of your economy.

These dollars go into the Australian economy.

Do you have a clue?
Have a;


and shut up!
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"Humanity" has been getting along fine for the past hundreds of thousands of years without the US moron. If the US does "go down" it will because of retards like you, not "terror" or "rogue states".

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Apparently the rest of the world has not figured out, that WE DO NOT GIVE A FUCK, about what they think about us.

The United States has to do what is best for its own interest.... just like every other Nation has to.

Funny thing is, when "they" hate US for doing our own thing its "Cool and right, because the US people are stupid, Bush is a nazi, yadda, yadda, yadda"

Yet when France blocks up the UN, interferes with US policy, it is WRONG for US to hate "them", because the French are bright, Chirac is a hero, yadda yadda....

Bottom line, most Americans do not care what the rest of the world thinks about us... Confidene is a good thing for a Nation to have. So the those who still hate the US....



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Apparently the rest of the world has not figured out, that WE DO NOT GIVE A FUCK, about what they think about us.

The United States has to do what is best for its own interest.... just like every other Nation has to.

Funny thing is, when "they" hate US for doing our own thing its "Cool and right, because the US people are stupid, Bush is a nazi, yadda, yadda, yadda"

Yet when France blocks up the UN, interferes with US policy, it is WRONG for US to hate "them", because the French are bright, Chirac is a hero, yadda yadda....

Bottom line, most Americans do not care what the rest of the world thinks about us... Confidene is a good thing for a Nation to have. So the those who still hate the US....



Then why do so many of Americans get upset when we criticise Bush? We are not criticising America or Americans. This poll is directly down to Bush not the American people, not even the ones who voted for him.

Why should world opinion be high about him? He did not care about world opinion when he went to war on the premise that Iraq had WMDs that could be used within minutes. That now turns out to be less than the truth. But he sold that to Americans as well and sent US troops to die, yet you still protect him.

What was his involvement in the Enron scandal? What has he done about it and the other similar companies that were over valued to line the pockets of the few with pension fund money?

I'm sure when you get a better President your ratings will climb again.
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Then why do so many of Americans get upset when we criticise Bush? We are not criticising America or Americans. This poll is directly down to Bush not the American people, not even the ones who voted for him.

Why should world opinion be high about him? He did not care about world opinion when he went to war on the premise that Iraq had WMDs that could be used within minutes. That now turns out to be less than the truth. But he sold that to Americans as well and sent US troops to die, yet you still protect him.

What was his involvement in the Enron scandal? What has he done about it and the other similar companies that were over valued to line the pockets of the few with pension fund money?

I'm sure when you get a better President your ratings will climb again.
Europeans are mostly leftists. They'll never like any US republican president.

The events that led to the Enron scandal happened during the Clinton administration as did the over valuation of the stock market (referred to by leftists as that great economy Clinton single handedly created through his genius and hard work).
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At least he doesn't get blowjobs in the oval office
Hey! Things were good when Bill was playing the sax. Money was flowing and BJ's a plenty. I don't see the problem still! But honestly, do you think the cigar was Cuban contraband? Now that's a crime!
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I'm sure when you get a better President your ratings will climb again.
We all know this too. If only people would stop trying to goad us into reacting by making it seem like the world hates us as a people we would stop getting pissed. We all know that's not totally true.

If Bush left tomorrow everything would go back to pre 2000 popularity levels.



It seems at least 50% of Spain will still hate us though. Fuck em
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This is just my theory and of course it could be wrong. I think europeans see us as stupid conservative religious cowboys and Bush represents everything they hate about the US and it's people.
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Old 06-04-2003, 11:16 PM   #43
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This is just my theory and of course it could be wrong. I think europeans see us as stupid conservative religious cowboys and Bush represents everything they hate about the US and it's people.
nah my opinion on the US is mostly based on Jerry Springer
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