Anyone use Adult-Outsourcing service? - GoFuckYourself.com

Mr. Marks · 06-03-2003, 09:25 AM

Seems like a really useful service and a good value. However, they're based in the Philippines, isn't porn graphics production/webmastering (sic?) illegal in the Philippines?

Send your feedback cuz Im interested in using this service.

sextoyking · 06-03-2003, 09:32 AM

New spammers on gfy

you can probably find better deals for full time overseas ppl on script lance, or even webhostingtalk.

loverboy · 06-03-2003, 09:32 AM

No, as long as you don't do the actual production of materials in PH.

Mr. Marks · 06-03-2003, 09:36 AM

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Originally posted by loverboy
No, as long as you don't do the actual production of materials in PH.

So you're saying that manipulating premade digital porn images is okay per http://www.dyosa.com/legal/conformity.html? ??

Mr. Marks · 06-03-2003, 09:37 AM

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Originally posted by sextoyking
New spammers on gfy

you can probably find better deals for full time overseas ppl on script lance, or even webhostingtalk.

For scripts, yes. But for graphics/Toons, it can be spotty and erratic.

Mr. Marks · 06-03-2003, 10:40 AM

Any other insights on this? I wouldn't want to plunk down 5K a month and then be left high and dry cuz the service was raided by the Philippines cops. A buddy of mine had the same problem but in Bangladesh, dude who wrote his scripts for him and image services got closed down.

SABAI · 06-03-2003, 11:03 AM

so far i m doing good with them
and mind that bengladesh is muslim,
philippines is not (not yet)

i think you should give them a try

Mr. Marks · 06-03-2003, 01:46 PM

Philippines is a schitzo country.... extreme Catholicism on the one hand and prudishness [as evidenced by its Penal Code] and $20 all night "long time" sex sessions on the other.

I just don't want to be left high and dry if there's legal issues.

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Originally posted by SABAI
so far i m doing good with them
and mind that bengladesh is muslim,
philippines is not (not yet)

i think you should give them a try

jasonir · 06-03-2003, 01:48 PM

Keep your money in North America.

If you need PHP scripting or webmaster services, contact us.

jact · 06-03-2003, 01:52 PM

My personal take on these guys is that they're dirty, but that's my personal opinion. Rictor has used their services I believe, he might have something to say on the matter.

macho

asshole.

Edit: PS if you're worried about legal issues, don't even bother with it, there's pleanty of other solutions out there.

Rictor · 06-03-2003, 02:02 PM

We have one designer, ordered a second that should start any day now. No problems. My partner also has two girls from their company working on miscellanous projects for him.

jact · 06-03-2003, 02:03 PM

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Originally posted by Rictor
We have one designer, ordered a second that should start any day now. No problems. My partner also has two girls from their company working on miscellanous projects for him.

Doesn't that vioalte the above law posted?

Rictor · 06-03-2003, 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by jact

Doesn't that vioalte the above law posted?

Don't know, don't care. I know it doesn't violate any of the laws of Gibraltar where our company is incorporated.

jact · 06-03-2003, 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by Rictor

Don't know, don't care. I know it doesn't violate any of the laws of Gibraltar where our company is incorporated.

Yeah but what if they go to jail the day after your monthly payment goes through? You're still out the payment.

Rictor · 06-03-2003, 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by papichulo
Any other insights on this? I wouldn't want to plunk down 5K a month and then be left high and dry cuz the service was raided by the Philippines cops. A buddy of mine had the same problem but in Bangladesh, dude who wrote his scripts for him and image services got closed down.

The answer to this would be...don't pay in advance. The first month is free anyway.

Rictor · 06-03-2003, 02:09 PM

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Originally posted by jact

Yeah but what if they go to jail the day after your monthly payment goes through? You're still out the payment.

See my post above. Don't pay in advance. Problem solved.

jact · 06-03-2003, 02:11 PM

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Originally posted by Rictor

See my post above. Don't pay in advance. Problem solved.

Your money, hopefully it works out well for you. They've done a lot to impress upon me not to use their services.

gruffy · 06-03-2003, 02:13 PM

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Originally posted by papichulo
Any other insights on this? I wouldn't want to plunk down 5K a month and then be left high and dry cuz the service was raided by the Philippines cops. A buddy of mine had the same problem but in Bangladesh, dude who wrote his scripts for him and image services got closed down.

Then cough up the money for real programmers & webmasters from a country with a functional legal system.

Third world toilets have a tendancy to get flushed once in a while.

You will get what you pay for dumbass.

jact · 06-03-2003, 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by gruffy

Then cough up the money for real programmers & webmasters from a country with a functional legal system.

Third world toilets have a tendancy to get flushed once in a while.

You will get what you pay for dumbass.

Well said

Mr. Marks · 06-03-2003, 02:29 PM

LoL, you're right , you ARE gruffy.

Despite the charisma overflow emitted by gruffy he DOES have a point: there is a premium for legal protections. Given the nature of Internet law, I wouldn't want to be subpoenaed by another country for an obscentiy trial cuz I wanted to save some $ on design/script construction.

Besides, the Miller standard of obscenity barely protects pornographers here in the US.... it may be wishful thinking that other countries' legal similarity to this standard would translate to the same level of protection

That's why its a probably a good bet to outsource to Eastern Europe and other porn-tolerant countries with really crappy exchange rates. Unfortunately...outsourcing is the future. I just plan to outsource my requirements to jurisdictions that allow for this type of material.

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Originally posted by gruffy

Then cough up the money for real programmers & webmasters from a country with a functional legal system.

Third world toilets have a tendancy to get flushed once in a while.

You will get what you pay for dumbass.

SABAI · 06-03-2003, 02:35 PM

what a bunch of racist rednecks a lot of you are,

what makes you think that you are so supperior to phillipinas ??

gruffy · 06-03-2003, 02:41 PM

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Originally posted by SABAI
what a bunch of racist rednecks a lot of you are,

what makes you think that you are so supperior to phillipinas ??

My philipino aunt and my philipino step-mom who say don't ever do business there.

Fuckwit.

jact · 06-03-2003, 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by SABAI
what a bunch of racist rednecks a lot of you are,

what makes you think that you are so supperior to phillipinas ??

Isn't it about time you surrendered?

StuartD · 06-03-2003, 02:44 PM

Because we don't break the law?

SABAI · 06-03-2003, 02:55 PM

even your fucking retarded president is breaking laws and international that is... (us) and jean chretien is as dumb as bush anyway

anyway there is no use arguing with people who have never been out of their country and have only one brain cell

Brujah · 06-03-2003, 03:01 PM

Rictor used them. So the only real opinion on it so far that matters is his. Some of your designers, sponsors, etc.. probably smoke pot. I don't see anyone crying "Waaahh.. my designer smokes pot.. I can't use him anymore."

jact · 06-03-2003, 03:04 PM

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Originally posted by Brujah
Rictor used them. So the only real opinion on it so far that matters is his. Some of your designers, sponsors, etc.. probably smoke pot. I don't see anyone crying "Waaahh.. my designer smokes pot.. I can't use him anymore."

Wouldn't matter if they were Canadian

StuartD · 06-03-2003, 03:06 PM

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Originally posted by SABAI
even your fucking retarded president is breaking laws and international that is... (us) and jean chretien is as dumb as bush anyway

anyway there is no use arguing with people who have never been out of their country and have only one brain cell

Oh good, I'm glad we're not going to resort to name calling and insults in this thread.

I bet you are a proud noble warrior behind a keyboard but would surrended the moment any one of us showed up at your door

reynold · 06-03-2003, 03:14 PM

MSN and Andersen outsource their callcentre activities to the philippines. It's a fascinating business. India aims to do all backoffice of the western world.

jact · 06-03-2003, 03:15 PM

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Originally posted by reynold
MSN and Andersen outsource their callcentre activities to the philippines. It's a fascinating business. India aims to do all backoffice of the western world.

I don't remember the last time MSN or Andersen's business was considered "obscene" however.

SABAI · 06-03-2003, 03:15 PM

maskedman uh?

well all i do i do it always with the same nick i'm not ashamed of who i am and if you want to come over to paris i'd be happy to stick my dick in your behind, but you'd have to pay me a good price asshole !

you just pop from under a rock and start insulting people because they are not from fucking Ka-na-duh, who the fuck are you anyway? Stuart D.

jact · 06-03-2003, 03:22 PM

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Originally posted by SABAI
maskedman uh?

well all i do i do it always with the same nick i'm not ashamed of who i am and if you want to come over to paris i'd be happy to stick my dick in your behind, but you'd have to pay me a good price asshole !

you just pop from under a rock and start insulting people because they are not from fucking Ka-na-duh, who the fuck are you anyway? Stuart D.

Because he uses a nick different on GFY then elsewhere he's hiding? Seems to me he's been registered here awhile... Good hiding, MaskedMan!

StuartD · 06-03-2003, 03:24 PM

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Originally posted by SABAI
maskedman uh?

well all i do i do it always with the same nick i'm not ashamed of who i am and if you want to come over to paris i'd be happy to stick my dick in your behind, but you'd have to pay me a good price asshole !

you just pop from under a rock and start insulting people because they are not from fucking Ka-na-duh, who the fuck are you anyway? Stuart D.

Who'd did I insult? You're the one who insulted all of us for questioning the legalities of a business.

And no, I didn't pop out from under a rock. If you actually knew anything that was going on in the biz, you might realize that much.

Friggin waste of space and energy.... you are the reason that gfy gets the reputation that it has.

b-bye

SABAI · 06-03-2003, 03:27 PM

yada yada yada .......

StuartD · 06-03-2003, 03:28 PM

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Originally posted by jact

Because he uses a nick different on GFY then elsewhere he's hiding? Seems to me he's been registered here awhile... Good hiding, MaskedMan!

he uses my nick here like I just registered it yesterday or something.

I guess it's the first he's heard of it. He must have been living under a rock

manilaheat · 06-03-2003, 03:29 PM

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Originally posted by SABAI
what a bunch of racist rednecks a lot of you are,

what makes you think that you are so supperior to phillipinas ??

Hey thanks for sticking up for us SABAI.

It's funny how many lawyers there are on the board?

I am wondering how some of these people could possibly know what is legal here and what is not.

manilaheat · 06-03-2003, 03:31 PM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan
Because we don't break the law?

So from your legal expertise ALL PORN is illegal in the Philiipines?

Funny I can access your web site here.

So by your standards, you are breaking the law.

StuartD · 06-03-2003, 03:35 PM

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Originally posted by manilaheat

So from your legal expertise ALL PORN is illegal in the Philiipines?

Funny I can access your web site here.

So by your standards, you are breaking the law.

No... he asked us what makes us all racist... what makes us so superior.

It's an outright insult to all who posted when people were only asking for clarification on the legalities of working out of the Philippines.

If you're going to step way over the mark and label everyone in the worst possible way just because they want to know all the facts, then expect an over exhaggerated response in return.

Don't go labeling people who have not yet labelled you... but might do so... because they definitely will afterwards.

Am I a lawyer? no... but I'll gladly take you to court if you start broadcasting to everyone in the industry in which I work that I'm racist. Wanna try me?

StuartD · 06-03-2003, 03:36 PM

Oh, and by the way... my site has no porn on it... so yes, it's legal.

If you had actually gone to my site you'd see that. It's a portal to porn. But thanx for pointing people to the way

Quotealex · 06-03-2003, 03:37 PM

Most webmasters can no longer afford North American programmers, they charge 10 times as much as as offshore programmers for the same shit.

manilaheat · 06-03-2003, 03:42 PM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan

No... he asked us what makes us all racist... what makes us so superior.

It's an outright insult to all who posted when people were only asking for clarification on the legalities of working out of the Philippines.

If you're going to step way over the mark and label everyone in the worst possible way just because they want to know all the facts, then expect an over exhaggerated response in return.

Don't go labeling people who have not yet labelled you... but might do so... because they definitely will afterwards.

Am I a lawyer? no... but I'll gladly take you to court if you start broadcasting to everyone in the industry in which I work that I'm racist. Wanna try me?

I never called you a racist dumb ass ...

Why would I be scared of your lawyers anyway?

Throw down!

bigdog · 06-03-2003, 03:43 PM

true and then the fuckers dissapear on you

StuartD · 06-03-2003, 03:46 PM

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Originally posted by manilaheat

I never called you a racist dumb ass ...

Why would I be scared of your lawyers anyway?

Throw down!

I was refering to Sabai dumb ass... have you never heard of the rhetorical 'you' in a sentence??
Here's an example for people who just don't know shit.

1: If you're going to call me something....

2: If anyone is going to call me something....

In a rhetorical sense is the same thing. Follow me??
Do you understand plain english. D O Y O U U N D E R S T A N D ? ? ?

Jeeze... pretty soon I'm going to start asking my 9 year old brother to say stuff so that at least you're on the same level.

manilaheat · 06-03-2003, 03:48 PM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan
Oh, and by the way... my site has no porn on it... so yes, it's legal.

If you had actually gone to my site you'd see that. It's a portal to porn. But thanx for pointing people to the way

Yea, those sponsor banners could definately go on the Disney Channel...

StuartD · 06-03-2003, 03:49 PM

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Originally posted by manilaheat

Yea, those sponsor banners could definately go on the Disney Channel...

I see you're not a lawyer either.

manilaheat · 06-03-2003, 03:55 PM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan

I was refering to Sabai dumb ass... have you never heard of the rhetorical 'you' in a sentence??
Here's an example for people who just don't know shit.

1: If you're going to call me something....

2: If anyone is going to call me something....

In a rhetorical sense is the same thing. Follow me??
Do you understand plain english. D O Y O U U N D E R S T A N D ? ? ?

Jeeze... pretty soon I'm going to start asking my 9 year old brother to say stuff so that at least you're on the same level.

Oh, I see, so your threat to sue Sabia was a rhetorical threat directed at everyone.

Maybe you should be more clear when you threaten to sue people...

StuartD · 06-03-2003, 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by manilaheat

Oh, I see, so your threat to sue Sabia was a rhetorical threat directed at everyone.

Maybe you should be more clear when you threaten to sue people...

ugh... friggin people. English isn't your first language is it? I'll forgive you if it's not. Let's recap for a second...

"you" is rhetorical... in my post. Inwhich case, "Am I a lawyer? no... but I'll gladly take you to court if you start broadcasting to everyone in the industry in which I work that I'm racist." is a rhetorical sentence. Meaning, I am saying to YOU (not rhetorical) that if YOU (rhetorical) want to call me racist to my peers, I'll take you to court.

Does this mean you? no. Does it mean Sabai? no. It means anyone calling me anything degrading or harmful to me or my business infront of people... ANYONE.

Finally... I said "wanna try me?" What does this mean? It means it hasn't happened yet so it's hardly a threat to sue... is it?
To put it more bluntly... If you want to find out if I will sue, then tell everyone that I'm racist"

Does that make more sense?

Anyway... this is boring now. All you're doing is seriously hurting the image and integrity of your business when you should be backing up the fact that what you're doing is legal.

So sad that you'd find it so hard to be professional when called for.

I'm sure most people here won't care if you're business is legal anymore if they decide to never work with you for other more obvious reasons.

Brujah · 06-03-2003, 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by Alex from Montreal
Most webmasters can no longer afford North American programmers, they charge 10 times as much as as offshore programmers for the same shit.

And only work 20% of the time. North American outsourced work are some of the laziest fucks you'll ever work with. The work ethic doesn't exist.

manilaheat · 06-03-2003, 04:32 PM

Even if we were to explain what we are doing is legal, you would resort to flaming our customers anyway and calling the country that we live in a toilet bowl.

Now if that isn't racist, I don't know what is.

If you were to read previous threads you would find out that we have 4 lawyers that sit on our board of directors. Our company business plan is well thought out and competely legal.

In fact, there are no laws even pertaining to online pornography on the books here.

But it is no use arguing with you. You would rather give English class and insult.

One last point, any one that is in the porn business and think that they don't have legal issues is mistaken.. In any jurisdiction to say the least...

Mr. Marks · 06-03-2003, 04:34 PM

Interesting point re productivity, Brujah.

So would it be reasonable (legalities aside -- which is a HUGE factor of course) to infer that the competitive advantages brought on by low labor prices and high exchange rates for the dollar are outweighed by low productivity and management communication issues?

Does this apply to all aspects of webmastering (sic?) or the most basic (ie., building scripts, galleries, content management)?

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Originally posted by Brujah

And only work 20% of the time. North American outsourced work are some of the laziest fucks you'll ever work with. The work ethic doesn't exist.

06-03-2003, 09:25 AM	#1
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jact Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Canada Posts: 9,134	My personal take on these guys is that they're dirty, but that's my personal opinion. Rictor has used their services I believe, he might have something to say on the matter. macho asshole. Edit: PS if you're worried about legal issues, don't even bother with it, there's pleanty of other solutions out there. __________________ Free agent

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loverboy When it rains, it pours Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 20,609	No, as long as you don't do the actual production of materials in PH.

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Mr. Marks Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wherever I want Posts: 7,517	Any other insights on this? I wouldn't want to plunk down 5K a month and then be left high and dry cuz the service was raided by the Philippines cops. A buddy of mine had the same problem but in Bangladesh, dude who wrote his scripts for him and image services got closed down.

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Rictor Old Timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 12,208	We have one designer, ordered a second that should start any day now. No problems. My partner also has two girls from their company working on miscellanous projects for him.

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SABAI Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: footmaniac.com Posts: 2,880	even your fucking retarded president is breaking laws and international that is... (us) and jean chretien is as dumb as bush anyway anyway there is no use arguing with people who have never been out of their country and have only one brain cell __________________

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Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	Rictor used them. So the only real opinion on it so far that matters is his. Some of your designers, sponsors, etc.. probably smoke pot. I don't see anyone crying "Waaahh.. my designer smokes pot.. I can't use him anymore." __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

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SABAI Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: footmaniac.com Posts: 2,880	maskedman uh? well all i do i do it always with the same nick i'm not ashamed of who i am and if you want to come over to paris i'd be happy to stick my dick in your behind, but you'd have to pay me a good price asshole ! you just pop from under a rock and start insulting people because they are not from fucking Ka-na-duh, who the fuck are you anyway? Stuart D. __________________

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manilaheat Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 584	Even if we were to explain what we are doing is legal, you would resort to flaming our customers anyway and calling the country that we live in a toilet bowl. Now if that isn't racist, I don't know what is. If you were to read previous threads you would find out that we have 4 lawyers that sit on our board of directors. Our company business plan is well thought out and competely legal. In fact, there are no laws even pertaining to online pornography on the books here. But it is no use arguing with you. You would rather give English class and insult. One last point, any one that is in the porn business and think that they don't have legal issues is mistaken.. In any jurisdiction to say the least... __________________ ALPHARED.COM - 61000 Mbps of Capacity 24/7 Live Support Guaranteed No Buffer / No Congestion Guarantee! [email protected] - ICQ 381-726-093